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  1. 8 points
    Instead of other threads getting hi-jacked all the time, why don't we just keep the discussion in one thread. I think Flo wrestling is good for wrestling. The first thing that is always up for debate here is whether or not flowrestling helps grow the sport. It does. Why? Consistency and accessibility. When I was growing up there was one way to watch wrestling. Iowa Public Television had a handful of Iowa matches every year. That was about it. There would be the occasional National duals match or National Finals, but not much else. Now I can watch every Big10 match and a handful of other programs live or days/months/years after the event. This is unprecedented for wrestling. I would never have dreamed 20 years ago that I would have this much access to wrestling. Not only that, but I have wrestling podcasts, news, recruiting, storylines produced daily whether is is written articles or in podcast form. It has allowed me to go beyond being a casual fan. I have yet to find another website that compares with the consistency or mass of content produced. Now could ESPN take over those matches? Absolutely they could and it would probably be cheaper too, but lets assume they were ever even interested, the moment that there was a conflict with ESPN's larger goals, wrestling would take a back seat. I don't see wrestling taking a back seat at flo and I am willing to pay so I don't have to deal with that threat. I don't see why anyone has a problem with the payment model. 1. its actually affordable. 2. it makes sense to charge more monthly than annually. 3. There is enough demand to ask for as much as they do. It is the right to determine that cost, and I don't really see how that has hurt interest in the sport. Even without a flo account, I still have more access to wrestling content than I did 15 years ago.
  2. 7 points
    This guy must be freebasing Fox News
  3. 6 points

    German Wrestling League Videos

    Just thought somebody might want to watch a few matches Alejandro Valdez vs Akhmednabi Gvarzatilov 65kg freestlye Akhmed Magamaev vs Nurmagomed Gadhziyev 97kg freestyle Arsen Musalaliev vs Ali Shabanau 87kg Freestsle Edit : also Sharif Sharifov fought Elizbar Odikadze this Saturday and I'm looking to find a video
  4. 6 points

    Iszmail Muszukajev ("Hungary")

    Thanks, found it: https://mobile.twitter.com/rader_jd/status/1176993417232076801
  5. 5 points

    Perspective on Worlds

    I know my expectations were higher for USA at Worlds this year. However, this was the 4th best finish for the team since 2008. USA freestyle wrestling is better from 2015-2019 than they were 2008-2014. Russia had a better than average performance. In 2010 they had all 7 wrestlers medal (4 Golds, 2 silvers, 1 Bronze)...that might be the only better year since 2008. However I think 5 Golds, 1 Silver, and 3 Bronze (with 1 DNP from a backup) this year is a little more impressive. Iran also had a slightly better performance this year than 17 and 18. What they accomplished this year - 1 Gold, 1 Silver, and 2 Bronze is more indicative of where they've been historically. Much more detail on my research via the link below-if you're into that stuff... https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1NImcKBCtXYITUVjq35uxACRaVRQ5VyE0RgslDK1FmKY/edit?usp=sharing
  6. 4 points
    Hey guys, Here is a podcast I recorded with Coach Brands two weeks ago. He drops a ton of stories on Gable, the Steiners and his run at Iowa, but two of the most interesting were: Brands talking about his respect for John Smith and Brands' rivalry with Alan Fried. Here is the link to listen. Ryan Warner Wrestling Changed My Life Podcast
  7. 4 points
    Old Corps

    Lesnar and how good was he?

    I think Lesnar was a lot better technically than many people give him credit for. I spoke with him one time and he was truly a huge guy. I remember thinking “This is why large caliber handguns will never become obsolete!”
  8. 3 points
    Lee Kemp or are we not counting the wrestlers that won the 1980 trials? 3 Time World Champ which is one more than Dake. Gene Mills was also part of that 1980 group.
  9. 3 points

    Cornell Big Red Wrestling

    I think I have a strong legal case and would prevail in at least the People's Court and possibly Night Court.
  10. 3 points

    Snyder to NLWC.

    I'm pretty positive Snyder thinks about things in a completely different way than your takes. 1. He's not worried about school pride, he wants to get better by wrestling better practice partners everyday-not just 1 or 2 top guys brought in once a year. This shouldn't surprise us considering he skipped his last year of high school to train at the OTC. 2. Coaching style/technique does make a difference. He's been with Tervel for many years now-makes them best friends and close but also gives him limited perspective on technique and training that could help him. Also, he's really close to Brandon Slay-the move puts him only a few hours from him at UPenn. 3. Family is important to him. He and his wife (not girlfriend) are both from Maryland-the move puts him much closer to home.
  11. 3 points

    Snyder to NLWC.

    Maybe if he really wants to win he will convert to Islam. Sent from my moto z3 using Tapatalk
  12. 3 points

    Zadick as new coach

    Cant really speak to any of this, but getting fired by ISU seems to be a good path to getting hired by USA Wrestling these days.
  13. 3 points

    Missouri Questions??

    Crawford to Mizzou !
  14. 3 points

    New Flo Color Scheme

    I normally don't say this, but it has really gotten to this point now. Why don't all the experts here start their own company. It is obvious to all of you that it is so easy and with so many experts in marketing, social media, content, customer service, and streaming services, why are we all wasting our time on this forum? We should be starting flos next competitor and grow the sport like everyone here is talking about all the time. By a lot of posters opinions, it appears that flo is not only hurting the sport, but leaving lots of money on the table. Come on everyone! Lets start a company and be rich!
  15. 3 points

    No NWCA All-Star Classic in 2019

    Its a shame. Yes not having the 1s vs 2s every match made it not as exciting, but there were still great matchups amonst numerous highly ranked guys. Not having the event sucks for people who enjoy high level college wrestling.
  16. 3 points
    Big prize money
  17. 3 points

    Flo 2019-2020 College Rankings

    """Unprecedented access""" lol. Remember when... when rankings were free to read? Do you think this 'paywallcreep' a good thing?
  18. 3 points

    Next year USA 74kg Olympic Trials

    I thought they were giving medalists from non-Olympic weights byes to the semis. But I could be wrong.
  19. 2 points

    Rewatching Nickal vs Dean

    Dean got even sicker when he realized he lost to a guy with noodle arms. Not becoming of the Destroyer of All Worlds.
  20. 2 points

    Cox is the best

    Cox beat Dake well before he had transformed himself into that all that and a bag of chips. Dont kid yourselves, he beats Dake all day. Also, JB will continue his complete domination of Dake.
  21. 2 points
    Mark Kerr 190, 1992 NCAA Champion for Syracuse
  22. 2 points

    1981 NCAA Wrestling Champions

    first SI article I ever read about wrestling https://www.si.com/vault/1981/03/23/825484/lookalikes-do-alike-the-mighty-banach-twins-captured-individual-titles-as-lowa-took-yet-another-ncaa-championship-its-sixth-in-seven-years
  23. 2 points
    Gents when Tommy figured out talent wins even when it dont work reel hard and there arnt no future in being no developmental program he hit the road and started picking up some gents what was on the market run off or flunked out or otherwise on waivers hombres like Downey Lugo Teasedale Desanto and such now some gents say thats a stroke of genius and others say its like buying a used car you just bought yourself a whole lot of trouble Kale aint gonna buy a bus ticket for some gent what aint pissed his last drop and being one of Kales close personal friends I gotta agree hes a reel ***hole when it comes in between him and winning he took my old friend Andy Long on board and maybe he learnt his lessons or otherwise just wanted to win gents got him his first title some would argue a national titles worth rolling the dice and some of them same gents would argue thats what Tommys doing stacking his whole entire lineup with transfers. Now Tommys purse puppies and pickle sniffers is running there mouths about Teasedale saying hes the next coming of Jesus Christ killing everybody in the room and thats going to compel my team favorite Desanto to move up to 141 and them same gents is going to say thats all good and fine gets him another 10 pts at Nattys or maybe more. But friends the Voice of Wrestlings going to say theres a risk in them transfer gents and sometimes it take 7 or 8 second chances to make it to the next level and theres a risk of a slip or a trip or maybe even a big fall and maybe taking them transfer gents is necessary when you aint done your homework or want to take a shortcut or maybe when your heads on the block and your just plain desperate and I gotta say you take the risk then dont do the crime if you cant do the time be careful Tommy I sure hope for your sake you know what your doing.
  24. 2 points
    Anybody wanting to make some serious money will be selling dreads at penn st home games
  25. 2 points
    FRL doesn't work again. Flo should reach out to Silicon Valley to find some tech people who actually know how tech works.
  26. 2 points

    Top Wrestlers in USA History

    For best at one time, Dan Gable should be in the conversation too
  27. 2 points

    David Taylor Status?

    Stop...for the love of everything wrestling....stop.
  28. 2 points
    sorry that i can't reveal the actual numbers but more people watch the PD3 Nicky Rod match than any other WNO match from ever prior event. it was a big win for everyone! except people who didn't want the match to be popular so they wouldn't have to admit you were wrong to someone they've never met before on an internet forum. but to everyone else, it was a win!
  29. 2 points

    Who's #1

    FLO and Beat the Streets don't seem to understand that they need more room for safety beyond just the mat. Pretty laughable they didn't think about (or maybe they just don't care) something so obvious. This isn't nearly as bad as the beat the streets stage from a safety standpoint but should have still been addressed.
  30. 2 points

    New Flo Color Scheme

    One of the things I always thought Flo got right were the colors and branding of it. The new colors/logo/branding is terrible.
  31. 2 points

    New Flo Color Scheme

    I don’t get why everyone is making such a big deal about a new logo? Who cares. It’s just a logo. Is it really any worse or better than the old one? Doesn’t make a difference to me as long as I can watch wrestling. If they would have started with this logo, I bet the same people would be complaining if they switched to the green one. It doesn’t make sense to me to change everything after so long but I’m not a marketing expert. That said, if they are going to spend money, I really wish they would’ve put it into better technology so they don’t have anymore streaming issues
  32. 2 points

    Cox in 86 Kg?

    In an interview right after winning worlds, he said he needed to make his decision in the next few weeks. But as far as I know, he has not made (or at least announced) that decision, yet.
  33. 2 points

    No Redshirt for Kerkvliet

    I'm no longer sold that Gable is "generational". To be "generational", you have to be a Cael, a Dake, a Schultz, a Snyder. Snyder, as a true Freshman, takes 2nd to Gadsen, but then proceeds to win the World Team spot at 97kg, and then the World Championship, becoming the youngest ever to win a World Championship. Gable, as a true Freshman, takes 3rd at NCAAs, but then proceeds to lose at Final X for the World Team spot, and does not attend the World Championships. Since they're only a handful of years apart, they're in the same generation, and Snyder wins on criteria for "who" the generational one is.
  34. 2 points

    Cox Sweat

    Never ceases to amaze me
  35. 2 points

    How did Kazakhstan get 2nd place?

    Usually win/loss percentage is more predictive of team performance down the road than the "luck of the draw" UWW scoring system. You can rack up UWW points with easy draws that get you those "filler" 5th and 7th place positions where you actually went 1-2 or 2-2--losing all your matches against decent opponents. Winning percentage exposes those mediocre performances. Comparing Kazakhstan to the US and others this year in terms of the more predictive statistic (winning percentage): 2. Kazakhstan: 25-15 (60%) 3. United States: 22-9 (71%) 4. Iran: 20-9 (69%) 5. Georgia: 18-10 (64%) 6. India: 18-10 (64%) 7. Azerbaijan: 16-11 (59%) (Russia won 89% at 41-5 by the way, but they deserve their own category this year.)
  36. 2 points

    74 kg discussion

    Burroughs is the GOAT. It’s not that close at this point. He lost...by a hair this year to the champ. He’s still right there. He had to beat 3 Dagestanis before wrestling the Russian! With all due respect Smith’s competition in some of his world title years were not nearly as difficult. Count the number of Russians Burroughs has had to beat during the span of his career. It’s absurd. Dake is unbelievable. I’m a huge fan but the style he’s been using in terms of movement and footwork works well vs flat footed Russians and Dieringer but will play right into Burroughs hands.
  37. 2 points

    Myles Amine- please defect to the USA!

    And please don't be mean to me. It isn't nice.
  38. 2 points

    Cox vs. Sadulaev?

    I would definitely like to see Snyder move up and take Gwiz's spot and Cox go up and take Snyder's spot.
  39. 1 point


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  40. 1 point

    Snyder to NLWC.

    This is clearly a person who has never been sick and needed to take medicine. You'd have to figure people here would have respect for pharma between lamisil, Valtrex, etc. A flu shot might have saved Logan Stieber from that loss to Retherford his senior year. Prescription meds go through clinical trials and are made by US or European companies. Their contents are highly regulated/controlled and contamination is rare and a huge issue whenever it does happen. China has never developed a drug. Supplements you are right.
  41. 1 point

    Snyder to NLWC.

    Agreed. Although I would say not so much improvement as different...new ideas and as you said perspectives. Don't forget Cunningham too. Great strategist and programmer.
  42. 1 point
    Love being compared to UFC and ESPN. we're not there yet but someday!
  43. 1 point
    Gimp, yes, immediately post-WWII since my grandfather was an American GI. To me, this is about how private companies opt to run their clubs. They happen to be in the U.S. I’m not sure what level of funding USAW provides to clubs and RTCs (if any), so this USAW “funding” of foreign athletes seems to me to be more just talk than it is actual dollars. Resources are in the eye of the beholder. Our entire country is founded by immigrants. Every week there’s some parade in some city about their home culture. None of our transfers are national team guys, so save a Junior (Micic) or Cadet (Amine) trip, how much has USAW actually put into these guys for there to be this much pushback? I want the US to win medals. I also have zero issues with athletes wanting to win medals for other countries. We don’t live their lives. We only know their motivations if we hear them talk on it at length (Amine is a guest On The Mat this week, for example: http://mattalkonline.com/otm585) These are private clubs providing the resources, not the NGB.
  44. 1 point

    WNO Supermatch: PD3 vs Nicky Rodriguez ?

    Certainly not every one who has a criticism or a few falls into what I’m saying, but it’s pretty hard to deny that people like that exist. And it exists on this board, whether it’s Flo or Penn State or Iowa or Rob Koll or.....
  45. 1 point

    No NWCA All-Star Classic in 2019

    This is a great idea! They could even make some matches freestyle. I know that’s weird given who the org is, but who cares! It would’ve been fun, plus maybe they could’ve gotten some of the National team women to compete. I bet you Yianni and Eierman would’ve said yes. I don’t think any world teamers would do it just due to timing after worlds, but Yianni and Eierman probably want the extra roll anyways. This might also be a great chance to showcase “freakshow” matches. Some BJJ guys have called out wrestlers to compete with them in wrestling. It has been respectful, but it would also be a great way to showcase wrestling to he BJJ fan base. It could only help build the sport. Honestly Flo should put a show like this on...
  46. 1 point
    The Genius

    Rank the World Champs p4p

    Very good and fair rankings and reasoning. I'd only disagree with two things: I'd swap Yaz with Geno (multiple divisions + Geno won on criteria late and lost to Taha a few times recently too, so it's very hard to split them), and Uguev with Rashidov - Uguev had a lot of controversy himself in the match vs Amiraslanov and faced significantly weaker opposition than Rashidov (Rashidov beat 2 world champs whilst Uguev faced/beat 0).
  47. 1 point
    Ogalthorpe Haywood

    Team Race is Crazy

    Nobody in America cares about Greco, so it’s a hollow victory I’m afraid
  48. 1 point
    Jaroslav Hasek

    74 kg discussion

    Burroughs met Tsabalov in the finals in 2017, the first and only time he's been opposite Russia at the worlds or olympics.
  49. 1 point

    Iowa ranked #1 by WIN magazine

    Of course Iowa should be #1 preseason. Not debatable. They’ve won 8 of the last 9 team titles, they have 7 returning AA’s, 3 of them being past champions. What ranking service wouldn’t rank them 1 to start the season? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
  50. 1 point


    Jordan Burroughs DNP 3-1-1 Kerry McCoy DNP 1-3-1 TJ Jaworsky DNP 1-1-1 Ricky Bonomo DNP 1-1-1 John Smith DNP 2-1-1 Mark Schultz DNP 1-1-1 Nate Carr DNP 1-1-1
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