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totally agree on Ashnault being unlikely to get another year.

Jason Bryant is a huge fan of the term

Isn't Michigan one of the 10 states Hall is from?

Hot off the presses: The University of Iowa has "officially" elected to replace the pseudo-famous Herky the Hawk mascot after nearly 70 years of history with the school. The new mascot, Doofy the Duck, is set to take over for Herky in 2019 and will be represented on the new team singlets at the prestigious Midlands Open hosted by Northwestern. Despite the tradition that Herky has brought to the school for nearly a century, the community as a whole feels that the new mascot is a better representation of the current nature of the wrestling program.

I love it....in the way that something is so bad, it's good. like sharknado. and it's "states"; it's not "World".

For elite Tweeners (in the IOC 6 weight format) like Dake, Cox and Green, they are going to be forced to change weight classes in 2020. But in reality, in order to maximize their changes of making the team, each must consider when to make the transition. If they wait until 2020, that eliminates their chance of getting the bye to the OTT trails by virtue of medaling the previous year. At its core, the IOC is at the root of this problem. But USAW cannot force the IOC to add weights. What they can do, however; is take away the bye into the OTT finals. Keep the US Open in place in Olympic years. Give the returning medal winners a bye to the US Open finals. if they win, they also get a bye to OTT finals. If not, no-one gets a bye into the OTT finals. This still provides an advantage to returning medal winners, but not as big of an advantage as exists today. This would ensure 2 events domestically where all the top guys are there (US Open and OTTs) and make it a little more fair for the Tweeners (allowing them to stay at their natural weight in 2019 and having a more fair shot at making the OTT in 2020).

That is super impressive

I can't start my first post with "someone will take the bait" and then proceed to take the bait myself. I'll pass on both counts.

Do you moonlight as a buzzfeed writer? Not every thread has to be clickbait. Fitting an absurd top 5 into the topic was a nice touch though. Someone will for sure take the bait.

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I would be perfectly fine if they both won. The thought that either of those two might never win the Hodge is a travesty.

good thing for slay he didn't stop chasing before 2000.

Does Michigan have a shot? Or do they match up badly with PSU?

I was there the first time Nolf executed that move. It was at the grange fair and he burst into my stall after eating a bad corndog. Lets just say his technique was a mess.

You may have missed the allegory....

So the conclusion is that JO is cool and Relentless is a bad father? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Kemp has been a vegetarian since 1980, after which he won a world gold and world bronze. Kumar has been a vegeterian since before he won all three of his world/Olympic medals. Lewis became a vegan in 1990, after which time he won multiple world and Olympic golds. Since 1990, he also set the world record in the 100 meter dash; he anchored two world-record-breaking 4x100 meter teams; and he ran the fastest anchor leg in the 4x100 ever officially recorded.

Hate is a strong word and gets attention as a topic. I would wager very few people actually hate someone else. They may have mannerisms that are annoying, behavior you don't agree with, or beliefs you don't share. Hate? doubt it

I remember reading the Easton, Pa newspaper in the early 70s and when it listed match box scores, the term “threw” was often used to indicate a pin. As in... ”Darwin Brodt threw Joe Schmuckatelli - 5:19”

Wake me up for NCAA'S.

Flo has all Big Ten duals except the ones that are shown on the actual Big Ten Network TV channel. So if it isn't on Flo, you can watch via TV or btngo.com via a login.

The Andrew Long Affair?

Sources? SOURCES? We don't got any sources! We don't need to show you any stinking sources!

only wrestlers who claim they "won states" but if you won states by pinfall then is it a double plural negative? ;_;

too early....come back in 10 years

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How many 133lbers could beat 165 or 174lbers? That’s what Gable does (Snyder did) many matches. Oh, and that dude wrestles like a light weight in my opinion. His ankle pick reminds me of Cael’s too.

Kemp is an alltime great. I just wonder how his "style" of wrestling would work out today against top guys.

Not to rain on anybody's parade, but I think Nolf would've beaten Dake at 157. Nolf is a lot squirrellier than David Taylor was (Taylor was a fine scrambler..but Nolf is a freak), and I think that gives Nolf a leg up on Taylor (vs Dake).

7 of their 9 relevant starters are from out of state.

Based upon some of the threads you start, apparently, you must be confused about a lot of things (wrestling related that is).

Nolf stinks. He's barely mediocre. My 12 year old neice would probably pin him in about 25 seconds.

Surplus of strength? Haha! Do they wrestle against stacks of iron, or do they wrestle against people of similar body weight? Pound for pound, lighter weights are proportionally stronger, generally speaking. There's a big difference between "knowing" a move and performing it when it counts in a match. How many takedowns at HWT are simply variations of "he shoots, I sprawl/go behind"? If heavies were actually hitting any chain wrestling combinations in matches it might be believable. The best heavies in the country are very good wrestlers, no doubt, but there's no way they know (and perform) as much wrestling as the Nolf''s, Retherford's, Lee's, and Hall's of the world. Even if Gable did all of that, it still wouldn't be as impressive as Cael because none of Gable's competition knows how to counter anything remotely like the lower/middle weights do. His competition is comparatively weak.

That's a ridiculous assertion. The difference between HWT and the other weights isn't in a lack of skill, it's in a surplus of strength/beef. Gwiz is probably a better technical wrestler than most the guys who won NCAA D1 titles when he was champ.

Agreed. All I suggested is that he should be in the conversation... but again... this is a two-horses race between the team mates. Even if Hall beats Valencia again, going undefeated, he's not doing this in a "dominating" way. Nolf and Nickal are destroying 90%+ of everyone.

Martin would have to pin his way out the rest of the season to be considered.

Doing great job.

Do you do parenting classes, as clearly, youre the best. Stay in your lane...

Tara is the last (most recent) weightlifting Olympic gold medalist from the USA.

Agreed. Should have said "McKenna and Eierman also have a good case to be in there."

I get what you are saying, but many could have easily said the same about Molinairo in January of 2015.... actually, if someone made a list like this at that time, he almost certainly wouldn't have even been included at all. There will probably be 1-2 similar surprises in 2019/2020.

In my opinion it actually it is. You took 10-30 minutes to convince your 7 year old that he needed to see JO wrestle and then blame JO for disappointing your 7 year old. It's not like JO made a deal with your kid that he would win the tournament for him. If he's 7 he likely wouldn't know the difference if you talked about one of the other great wrestlers in attendance such as Molinaro.

Amazes me so many of those guys are still chasing a dream they'll never catch.

You guys are being pretty ridiculous. Wrestlers sign up for tournaments and then the wrestling media (FLO) over hypes match-ups. Its not JO’s fault that you feel disappointed. He doesn’t exist to serve you. He was trying to potentially test himself, make money and qualify for the world team trials which still isn’t for several months. Since he still needs to qualify you will see him wrestle again before trials. There were more wrestlers in attendance than Oliver and plenty more who didn’t go either. I don’t see anyone bad mouthing our world champs or world team members who didn’t attend. No Dake, Taylor, Cox, Burroughs. Stieber, for example, will still need to qualify. There shouldn’t be a double standard here. I feel like if Stieber had registered and not gone there wouldn’t be anywhere near the level of contempt that’s being shown towards Oliver.

For the record, I'm not looking forward to a Kyle Snyder MMA career either. Watching him get pinned by Sadulaev was hard enough--I really don't want to see him get knocked out by a head kick or something.

Harder to overcome two losses if he did beat Rivera at BigTens. Now with only one loss, he would be seeded ahead at NCAAs. That why this was done. Aside from that, Young sat out after wrestling Friday simply to avoid another loss that would lower his winning percentage, a factor in seeding. Iowa fans can rationalize all they want but when you cherry pick the schedule and only have your guys wrestle those they can beat, that's ducking, period, end of discussion. Brands has now done this with multiple wrestlers, multiple times. It's becoming systematic and other coaches are not doing this to anywhere near the degree Iowa is.As far as Lee's health, I'm sure the only way many Iowa fans will say he is back to 100% is IF he beat Rivera and wins an NCAA Championship. It's obvious there is no way they will admit this prior to the matchup and risk a loss with no excuse. Heck, he just destroyed the #12 wrestler in the country on Friday, yet he incapable of going on Sunday against Rivera, please!

A wrestling version of the Holy Grail would be finding lost film of Robin Reed wrestling.

Every year Snyder takes a loss or two and everyone freaks out. Then he makes the world finals and is 3/4 in the finals. Snyder is fine. Wrestling at this level is hard. Snyder will peak for worlds and unless seeding is messed up, will make the finals opposite Sadulaev. He has a chance if winning that match too.

is this the dumbest question ever asked?