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  1. 4 points
    JasonBryant

    We need a bigger slide...

    What “problem” are we solving here?
  2. 2 points
    VakAttack

    Would Marinneli be a Champ at PSU

    You think that knee brace is for show? Sent from my SM-G955U using Tapatalk
  3. 2 points
    I was waiting for DF to start a topic on the matter, but I guess he may have missed watching the NCAAs this year. Did anyone else immediately think about how antiheroic Fix was in his NCAA finals match? Consider the fact that he did a masterful job with his neutral defense for most of the match. And of course he would have won in overtime thanks to some really tactical leg riding, which has to be considered the cousin of the cheap tilt, if not for the intervention of a referee who decided he wanted to insert himself into the match. To top it all off though, in truly an outstanding display of antiheroicism, was the moment when Fix started complaining about Suriano grabbing his headgear midway through the takedown attempt in overtime instead of actually trying to defend the shot. When that happened, I immediately thought that DF would be proud, as the "try hard" wrestler thing to do would have been to go for a scramble/Hail Mary defense. A true tactician knows that statistically his odds were better going for the headgear penalty point than a takedown defense. I only wish the ref would have awarded Fix the match upon review though, like they did for Mark Hall against Valencia a couple of years ago.
  4. 1 point
    Perry

    Would Marinneli be a Champ at PSU

    Assuming he was in the lineup and cenzo wasn't there, do you think cael, Casey and staff would get marinelli to the top of the podium? It seems that their guys are generally ready to go in March mentally where marinelli seems to fall off the rails once post season starts. He is a tremendous talent and I would love to see him win it all. Hopefully he doesn't continue to descend to 8th place next year as a junior.
  5. 1 point
    Zebra

    We need a bigger slide...

    I gotta agree with JB on this one even if he is an overly sensitive millennial. You want to place higher then win on the top side, that's the reward.
  6. 1 point
    VakAttack

    Would Marinneli be a Champ at PSU

    Congratulations to Cenzo for happening to be on the opposite side of the bracket from Lewis. Maybe next time Joseph sees Marinelli he won't give upback points, though. Sent from my SM-G955U using Tapatalk
  7. 1 point
    JasonBryant

    We need a bigger slide...

    Because the grind of the tournament isn’t hard enough for some people I guess. I’m dismissive not because wrestling and it’s identity problem, rather this has little to no merit for 7 of the 8 places ... we going to legislate that wrestlers who lose to those with seeds should get more matches because their draw was tougher too? The 7th place guy lost to someone who placed 3-4-5-6 in the previous round. They are there because they LOST ... earlier and they lost to someone directly ahead of them. You are seeking to penalize wrestlers who make the semifinals. They get to place a minimum of sixth because they WON where others who lost before them ... LOST. This ain’t broke. And yes, I’m dismissing it.
  8. 1 point
    JasonBryant

    We need a bigger slide...

    Bring some merit to the argument and people won’t be dismissive. This is attempting to change something that actually has worked and been adapted over time. Until 1996, we didn’t even have full wrestlebacks. Unlike some things in wrestling that are “the way they are,” the consolation bracket format has evolved into a very good, functional and workable system to determine the top right wrestlers. There’s nothing to fix. There is a method to it that’s logical and is easy for fans to follow, save when there is a cross bracket depending on the size of the draw. There is nothing inferior with the consolation draw as it exists, mainly because it has evolved over time, as stated above by someone else, the loss structure is simple. 0-1-1-2-2-3-2-3 (with seventh only taking two losses compared to sixth and three. This part of the sport isn’t broke.
  9. 1 point
    1032004

    We need a bigger slide...

    OP’s point is that right now the only difference between 5th and 7th is what point in time you lost. I guess it doesn’t mean much but both of the guys Marinelli lost to, each beat guys White lost to.
  10. 1 point
    HurricaneWrestling2

    List of Transfers

    Far out, man.
  11. 1 point
    JasonBryant

    Way too early WTT picks

    Kill wrestling at the Olympics and you kill wrestling’s funding worldwide. We don’t receive government funding, but if you take the Olympics away from the sport (or vice versa), the funding goes away from most of our competitors. It’s not a rational or realistic solution to removing the IOC from the sport.
  12. 1 point
    fadzaev2

    We need a bigger slide...

    What's the saying....."If it ain't broke, don't fix it". We've got enough issues to work on right now with things like "the hands to the face" call, video review/bricks thrown in, etc. Personally, I think there are so many good wrestlers now, and they work so hard, that seventh and eighth place deserve to be all-americans. We went from 4 to 6 in 1963, and from 6 to 8 in 1979.....we've given 8 places for 40 years, now we're going to go backwards?.....all those guys score points too wrestling out to those places. Fadz
  13. 1 point
    JasonBryant

    We need a bigger slide...

    That isn’t a problem
  14. 1 point
    AnklePicker

    Doing the most with the least

    It means they have good coaching. If it was just this class it might be a MO thing but Coach Smith and Co have a proven track record. They’re very very good at coaching.
  15. 1 point
    lu1979

    Would Marinneli be a Champ at PSU

    I don't see how you can reasonably say he "fell off the rails" in this post season. The guy won Big 10s, beating the returning 2X NCAA champ. At NCAAs he lost a close match to the eventual Champion. THen he loses another competitive bout to Marstellar who has always been very good and ends up 3rd in this bracket. Yes he was the #1 seed and he lost twice but he didn't have a terrible tournament. He lost close matches to 2 really good guys and ended up an AA.
  16. 1 point
    1032004

    On Bo, helping opponents up

    You’re welcome, can you tell Bo that? For the record, I don’t think he’s purposely patronizing people, but I don’t think it’s the greatest thing in the world.
  17. 1 point
    scribe

    List of Transfers

    I post to the intergalactic wrestling forum.
  18. 1 point
    Billyhoyle

    We need a bigger slide...

    My point is that your suggestion is equally as bad.
  19. 1 point
    gowrestle

    On Bo, helping opponents up

    Regardless of why, Bo’s behavior is a good thing.
  20. 1 point
    Billyhoyle

    We need a bigger slide...

    So what if you win the consi round of 4 and then lose the consi semi? You then have to wrestle the other loser of the consi round of 4 to determine whether you wrestle in the 5/6 or 7/8 match? That's pretty ridiculous.
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  22. 1 point
    Any of you guys looking to buy a bridge while youre at it?
  23. 1 point
    Agree with your last paragraph. Agree to disagree with your first two paragraphs. The video (as opposed to the stills), at least the ESPN camera (not positive what the refs saw) to me is indisputable. Go to 17:00 mark. I don't see how you can watch the replay starting at 17:00, and not conclude that he grabbed the headgear. Grabbing, as I understand it, is the rule (as I discussed above). I think it's indisputable Suriano grabbed the headgear. The video between 17:05-17:11 shows a pronounced grab and release sequence, including Suriano's hand gripping/flexing at around 17:05 and ungripping/unflexing at around 17:11. Fix's hair does obstruct the view of the fingertips, but the video demonstrates through motion, in a way that it is not necessarily indisputable in the still pictures, that the headgear was clearly grabbed. This is not the crime of the century. The refs blew a great number of very important calls throughout the tournament (Hidlay indisputably didn't have a takedown?!?!). It's hard to do a review under time pressure instead of on your computer at home a week after the final. Fix could and should have done a lot of things to win the match before this, and really screwed up when he stopped wrestling to protest the headgear grab. Suriano showed a ton of heart getting to the finals and then controlled pace throughout the finals match in neutral. But if you're going to have replay (which I think at least in the current system, without independent review, they shouldn't; it's definitely not worth the interruptions in action to get such bad results), and you're going to review this call (despite the fact that OSU had no challenges due to their screwing up by wasting their challenges on the silly hands to the face, and also a silly back points challenge in a first round blowout), then my opinion is that this is an indisputable headgear grab -- and one that materially affected the action by stopping in its tracks what looked like a good Fix slide-by.
  24. 1 point
    Ogalthorpe Haywood

    On Bo, helping opponents up

    It’s not that it’s unsportsmanlike, it’s just obvious he’s doing it to get points with the Hodge committee. In years past he celebrated and sometimes it was over the top (which I had no problem with)
  25. 1 point
    KTG119

    Up and coming States.

    Russ Cozart retired didn't he? Maybe not as simple as that but a factor.
  26. 1 point
    headache

    Is Yianni the Second Best Ever?

    If you want to compare wrestlers from different eras, like Gable and Yianni, either time machine Yianni back to the 1960s or move Gable to the present. Otherwise it's just bogus yapping. It's really quite impossible for Gable to be wrestling today with techniques from the 1960s and vice versa for Yianni. Also, most of the great wrestlers, including Gable and John Smith, were great competitors first, wrestlers second. People aren't born great wrestlers, they get there through extraordinary work and desire.
  27. 1 point
    scribe

    On Bo, helping opponents up

    Appropriate touching might include help Yianni's mom cheer on to victory
  28. 1 point
    Katie

    Is Yianni the Second Best Ever?

    There were a number of undefeated wrestlers in the days when freshman weren’t allowed to compete. One such wrestler was Uetake, who also won an Olympic gold medal right after his sophomore year (the first year he was eligible).
  29. 1 point
    That's what Johnson said but I think he's wrong. I looked for the rule before posting earlier and couldn't find rhe actual verbatim rule. But several summaries and synopses I found used the verb "grab" for clothing and headgear as a prohibited act. I also don't see how the rule couldn't prohibit a grab. It can't make sense that one guy can grab and hold the other's headgear in the way that happened here. Otherwise you could build match strategy around that, right? Just grab and hold the headgear to stop your opponent's movement. I would think that you can truly push and post the headgear, without grabbing the headgear, just as you can the head itself. But you can't grab and clasp the headgear just like you can't grab and clasp someone's hair. That's got to be correct, I think. I thought Fix was going to score without it although some above disagree with that. Regardless the rule is there to resolve that uncertainty. Unlike hands to the face calls which usually don't have anything to do with thwarting a scoring move. None of this is meant to detract from the heart that Suriano showed in overcoming two years of adversity (injuries and transfer); in avenging this year's losses in March; in controlling the mat in neutral in the final; and in escaping from a great rider in a short time restart (after a helpful stalemate call that often gets made in overtime) in a highest pressure situation.
  30. 1 point
    boconnell

    If Mark Hall went to...

    But steroids can increase head size and if his got bigger he'd probably tip over.
  31. 1 point
    ShakaAloha

    Conference Strength

    Nice work on the table, but EIWA is not the 6th strongest conference. For me, EIWA would be 2nd or 3rd.
  32. 1 point
    I want to see Kirk Douglas vs bob barker
  33. 0 points
    bsharp2384

    Is Yianni the Second Best Ever?

    No. No it isnt. Cannot compare old timer wrestling to today. When I watch Gable vs Owings, I can't believe what I am watching. Yianni would major Gable at the very least.
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