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  1. 2 points
    I was waiting for DF to start a topic on the matter, but I guess he may have missed watching the NCAAs this year. Did anyone else immediately think about how antiheroic Fix was in his NCAA finals match? Consider the fact that he did a masterful job with his neutral defense for most of the match. And of course he would have won in overtime thanks to some really tactical leg riding, which has to be considered the cousin of the cheap tilt, if not for the intervention of a referee who decided he wanted to insert himself into the match. To top it all off though, in truly an outstanding display of antiheroicism, was the moment when Fix started complaining about Suriano grabbing his headgear midway through the takedown attempt in overtime instead of actually trying to defend the shot. When that happened, I immediately thought that DF would be proud, as the "try hard" wrestler thing to do would have been to go for a scramble/Hail Mary defense. A true tactician knows that statistically his odds were better going for the headgear penalty point than a takedown defense. I only wish the ref would have awarded Fix the match upon review though, like they did for Mark Hall against Valencia a couple of years ago.
  2. 1 point
    Perry

    Would Marinneli be a Champ at PSU

    Assuming he was in the lineup and cenzo wasn't there, do you think cael, Casey and staff would get marinelli to the top of the podium? It seems that their guys are generally ready to go in March mentally where marinelli seems to fall off the rails once post season starts. He is a tremendous talent and I would love to see him win it all. Hopefully he doesn't continue to descend to 8th place next year as a junior.
  3. 1 point
    1032004

    On Bo, helping opponents up

    You’re welcome, can you tell Bo that? For the record, I don’t think he’s purposely patronizing people, but I don’t think it’s the greatest thing in the world.
  4. 1 point
    scribe

    List of Transfers

    I post to the intergalactic wrestling forum.
  5. 1 point
    Billyhoyle

    We need a bigger slide...

    My point is that your suggestion is equally as bad.
  6. 1 point
    gowrestle

    On Bo, helping opponents up

    Regardless of why, Bo’s behavior is a good thing.
  7. 1 point
    Billyhoyle

    We need a bigger slide...

    So what if you win the consi round of 4 and then lose the consi semi? You then have to wrestle the other loser of the consi round of 4 to determine whether you wrestle in the 5/6 or 7/8 match? That's pretty ridiculous.
  8. 1 point
    cornercoach

    We need a bigger slide...

    ....tongueINcheek.....
  9. 1 point
    KCMO2

    We need a bigger slide...

    They throw in true 2nd or 3rds when it's a qualifier for something bigger. NCAA's are it though. That's like having a true runner up in the BCS (or whatever they call it now) or March Madness.
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  11. 1 point
    Any of you guys looking to buy a bridge while youre at it?
  12. 1 point
    Agree with your last paragraph. Agree to disagree with your first two paragraphs. The video (as opposed to the stills), at least the ESPN camera (not positive what the refs saw) to me is indisputable. Go to 17:00 mark. I don't see how you can watch the replay starting at 17:00, and not conclude that he grabbed the headgear. Grabbing, as I understand it, is the rule (as I discussed above). I think it's indisputable Suriano grabbed the headgear. The video between 17:05-17:11 shows a pronounced grab and release sequence, including Suriano's hand gripping/flexing at around 17:05 and ungripping/unflexing at around 17:11. Fix's hair does obstruct the view of the fingertips, but the video demonstrates through motion, in a way that it is not necessarily indisputable in the still pictures, that the headgear was clearly grabbed. This is not the crime of the century. The refs blew a great number of very important calls throughout the tournament (Hidlay indisputably didn't have a takedown?!?!). It's hard to do a review under time pressure instead of on your computer at home a week after the final. Fix could and should have done a lot of things to win the match before this, and really screwed up when he stopped wrestling to protest the headgear grab. Suriano showed a ton of heart getting to the finals and then controlled pace throughout the finals match in neutral. But if you're going to have replay (which I think at least in the current system, without independent review, they shouldn't; it's definitely not worth the interruptions in action to get such bad results), and you're going to review this call (despite the fact that OSU had no challenges due to their screwing up by wasting their challenges on the silly hands to the face, and also a silly back points challenge in a first round blowout), then my opinion is that this is an indisputable headgear grab -- and one that materially affected the action by stopping in its tracks what looked like a good Fix slide-by.
  13. 1 point
    Ogalthorpe Haywood

    On Bo, helping opponents up

    It’s not that it’s unsportsmanlike, it’s just obvious he’s doing it to get points with the Hodge committee. In years past he celebrated and sometimes it was over the top (which I had no problem with)
  14. 1 point
    KTG119

    Up and coming States.

    Russ Cozart retired didn't he? Maybe not as simple as that but a factor.
  15. 1 point
    headache

    Is Yianni the Second Best Ever?

    If you want to compare wrestlers from different eras, like Gable and Yianni, either time machine Yianni back to the 1960s or move Gable to the present. Otherwise it's just bogus yapping. It's really quite impossible for Gable to be wrestling today with techniques from the 1960s and vice versa for Yianni. Also, most of the great wrestlers, including Gable and John Smith, were great competitors first, wrestlers second. People aren't born great wrestlers, they get there through extraordinary work and desire.
  16. 1 point
    scribe

    On Bo, helping opponents up

    Appropriate touching might include help Yianni's mom cheer on to victory
  17. 1 point
    Katie

    Is Yianni the Second Best Ever?

    There were a number of undefeated wrestlers in the days when freshman weren’t allowed to compete. One such wrestler was Uetake, who also won an Olympic gold medal right after his sophomore year (the first year he was eligible).
  18. 1 point
    That's what Johnson said but I think he's wrong. I looked for the rule before posting earlier and couldn't find rhe actual verbatim rule. But several summaries and synopses I found used the verb "grab" for clothing and headgear as a prohibited act. I also don't see how the rule couldn't prohibit a grab. It can't make sense that one guy can grab and hold the other's headgear in the way that happened here. Otherwise you could build match strategy around that, right? Just grab and hold the headgear to stop your opponent's movement. I would think that you can truly push and post the headgear, without grabbing the headgear, just as you can the head itself. But you can't grab and clasp the headgear just like you can't grab and clasp someone's hair. That's got to be correct, I think. I thought Fix was going to score without it although some above disagree with that. Regardless the rule is there to resolve that uncertainty. Unlike hands to the face calls which usually don't have anything to do with thwarting a scoring move. None of this is meant to detract from the heart that Suriano showed in overcoming two years of adversity (injuries and transfer); in avenging this year's losses in March; in controlling the mat in neutral in the final; and in escaping from a great rider in a short time restart (after a helpful stalemate call that often gets made in overtime) in a highest pressure situation.
  19. 1 point
    HokieHWT

    List of Transfers

    Mehki Lewis- PSU
  20. 1 point
    boconnell

    If Mark Hall went to...

    But steroids can increase head size and if his got bigger he'd probably tip over.
  21. 1 point
    ShakaAloha

    Conference Strength

    Nice work on the table, but EIWA is not the 6th strongest conference. For me, EIWA would be 2nd or 3rd.
  22. 1 point
    An official missed a call that potentially cost a kid a shot at winning the match....color me shocked. I do find it comical that on a thread devoted to understanding if the official missed a call, people point out Fix and Smith's strategy.....like how does that have anything to do with Suriano grabbing the head gear? Those two points are separate....both are valid.....but separate. It's almost like wrestling fans want to protect the integrity of the officials so bad that they will degrade a strategy by a coach/wrestler to defend the officials call/lack of call. During NCAA's I didn't see one challenge overturned (There may have been some, but I saw exponentially more confirm the refs call than overturned).....when is the NCAA going to implement another official to sit at the table and review the monitor without the on-mat officials just reviewing it? Do people really believe that the guy who just made the call (on-mat official) is going to change is mind at a REASONABLE rate when rewatching what he just saw??
  23. 1 point
    I want to see Kirk Douglas vs bob barker
  24. 1 point
    Alright, so Reece Humphrey and JD Bergman might have a shot at Olympic gold. :D If you didn't see this already, it is pretty cool:
  25. 0 points
    bsharp2384

    Is Yianni the Second Best Ever?

    No. No it isnt. Cannot compare old timer wrestling to today. When I watch Gable vs Owings, I can't believe what I am watching. Yianni would major Gable at the very least.
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