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  1. 6 points
    I completely agree. I think during his time in college because you had Snyder, Dake, and Taylor he was not recognized for his ability. Also if I'm not mistaking he never redshirted. Yet he was a 3x NCAA championship. His only losses if I'm not mistaking are to Snyder, Mclintosh, Wellington by DQ, and one other person his true freshman year. He had like 4-5 loses. He was also a sensational freestyler, beating Snyder in Fargo. He qualified the US for the Olympics when it had yet to be qualified, and won bronze. Then he beat Dake and Taylor. Went on to win world bronze. Then won world gold. So in essence he is the only person on team USA to have wins at some point over 3 of our other 4 current US world gold medalist. Cox is no joke. I don't get how so many people think he is so likely to get Beat. Yes, Bo dominated college. So did Dake, Taylor, Zain, and Ringer. It's not that easy to come in and knock off a world champ right out of the gates. Plus J'Den is what, 25? He is hitting his prime, not coming to the end of it.
  2. 5 points
    Sparky

    2019/2020 NCAA Rule Proposals

    Just go to mat side weigh ins. Eliminates all the other stuff like times and certifications that have been adjusted forever. Step on the scale, show you made weight, then step on the mat and wrestle. Use a big digital display so everyone can see it. If you're cutting too much weight you won't be able to perform.
  3. 4 points
    It’s odd to even have to argue that the reigning world champ is the favorite to win Final X. Yet here we are.
  4. 3 points
    Ragu

    Let’s begin the Cox/Nickal discussion now

    Not enough people are giving Cox, world champion, enough respect. He beat Dake and DT to make teams in the past and they had years of FS experience in them already. Maybe the next time they meet, if they ever do, Bo could get him but the advantage is Cox's 100% this go around
  5. 2 points
    Making Medical Forfeits count as losses will negatively affect more than just the wrestler who forfeits. The reason for the rule is to punish people who drop out of tournaments by lowering their seed at the NCAA championships due to the arcane formula they use. Seeding at the NCAA DI tournament is the only effect of this change. The unintended consequence is how it affects everyone else in the bracket. Do we really want a potential national finalist knocked into the consolation because the best guy sprained his ankle at the Southern Scuffle and then dropped out of the B1G tournament with a tweaked knee? The point of seeding is to separate the top guys in the weight. Anything that artificially affects that is a negative.
  6. 2 points
    Cox has beat Snyder many times at camps, pretty sure he can beat Bo. Since Cox went to the OTC he has jumped levels and got his weight under control. Expect a close match by points but do not expect Cox to be threatened.
  7. 2 points
    Always put out a strong program here in Arizona but I never knew anything of his personal background! Best of luck Jim! http://www.eastvalleytribune.com/sports/hall-of-famer-jim-martinez-resigns-as-cds-wrestling-coach/article_be3d97f2-65f6-11e9-b5c8-b30413baeeb7.html#tncms-source=article-nav-next Jim Martinez’s decision to resign as the head coach of the Corona del Sol wrestling program wasn’t easy, but it was one he felt had to be done. “Being a wrestling coach is pretty demanding,” Martinez said. “I had thought about how much longer I wanted to do this and if I had the ability to continue. With all of the volunteer time it took and working as a substitute teacher, I was hesitant to give a firm commitment.” Martinez discussed his future with Corona del Sol administrators in early April. It was then that he decided it was time to step away. “The Corona program is the first and only wrestling program where I was the head coach,” Martinez said. “Everything I did was so that we all could become better wrestlers and positive influences in our school and community. “I have loved the wrestlers and families for allowing me to be a part of their lives.” Martinez spent the last 10 years at the helm of the Corona wrestling program, winning two state titles during his tenure. His first championship came during his inaugural season in 2009-10. His second title came during the 2016-17 season. Corona quickly became one of the premier programs in the state under Martinez, consistently finishing in the top-10 rankings each year. “We appreciate the hard work and dedication of Coach Martinez over the last 10 years,” said Cory Nenaber, Corona del Sol’s athletic director. “He’s an exceptional wrestling coach and we wish him the best.” A native of Osseo, Minn., Martinez was a state-champion wrestler in high school before he went on to become a Big 10 Champion and two-time All-American for the University of Minnesota. His success in college earned him a spot on the U.S. Olympic Team during the 1984 Olympics in Los Angeles. He won a bronze medal in lightweight Greco-Roman wrestling after defeating Romanian Stefan Negrisan. On Oct. 18, 2014, Martinez was inducted into the Alan and Gloria Rice Greco-Roman Hall of Champions, part of the National Wrestling Hall of Fame. The search for a new coach is already underway at Corona del Sol. Nenaber has begun screening applicants and is hopeful to begin interviews and make a hire before the end of the school year. Martinez hasn’t ruled out a return to coaching, but it would have to be under the right circumstance. For now, he remains thankful for the positive influence all of his former wrestlers had on him during his coaching career. “They made me remember what the sport did for me,” Martinez said. “I want them to remember that as much as winning matches and tournaments were great accomplishments, it is the journey of failures and successes that will be the important memories to take away. “You are champions by what you do every day, not by the singular win or championship you achieve. Show up, give your best and never stop trying.”
  8. 2 points
    MDogg

    2019/2020 NCAA Rule Proposals

    Agreed that riding time should be eliminated now that we have a 4 point near fall. Most boring part of any match is when someone gets ridden for a long stretch without getting turned. I’ve never understood why we incentivize that with a riding time point. 4 point near fall is enough of an incentive/reward for guys who are tough on top. I’m also for a step out point. It rewards the aggressor, will make things more exciting, is easy and clean for officials to call, and will help make the transition to freestyle from folk easier. Maybe modify it a little from the current freestyle rules (both feet need to be out?)...but I think the pros far outweigh the cons.
  9. 2 points
    Cox is too big and positionally sound imo. Bo is a freak, but I don't think he has the offense to score enough. I'm thinking something like 4-2 Cox for both matches.
  10. 2 points
    BobDole

    Sasso

    Sasso will win it as a freshman then never win it again.
  11. 2 points
    qc8223

    Cass big over Nevills

    The last double for 4 shook the building. Highly recommend watching this match if you want to see a high level heavyweight at work. If he wasn't coming up in an era of such elite heavyweight talent, he would be one of next year's most anticipated recruits. Great mix of technique, speed, power, and physicality. He also opened the match with a single leg into a lace that looked like a 65 kg guy working. And Nevills isn't chopped liver either. He beat Hemida this year and has some nice skills for a big guy too. We're about to witness a golden era of heavyweight.
  12. 1 point
    I know mine is a really unpopular opinion, but I've always felt at the senior men's level, not getting scored on at all is more impressive than scoring lots of points. The latter is funner to watch, but the former, I'd argue, is much harder to do at the highest level, especially against medalist-level opponents. Separately, I am surprised to just learn about Nickal's MMA plans. He's about as good an athlete as there is at his size, so he'll probably do well (reminds me a bit of a white Jon Bones Jones), but I really had him as DT's heir at 86 kg. We will lose a very good prospect who will never realize his full freestyle potential.
  13. 1 point
    the only comment i would make here is that yanni did wizard **** on the mat this weekend... stuff that we have never seen before... who he beat was secondary to what he did while doing it...
  14. 1 point
    BigTimeFan

    RBY Dominated in Jr Finals

    Gabe Tagg pinned him in impressive fashion. Tagg had all techs to the finals and then the pin. North Carolina commit.
  15. 1 point
    CoachWrestling

    How to stop medical forfeits?

    This way of doing things is cowardly to say the least. It’s crazy in a sport considered to be so tough that the coaches lack courage to let their wrestler compete against the best. These coaches need to stop this pigeon-hearted, soft, and weak practice. Very sad to see the sport going in this direction. How do we change this?
  16. 1 point
    I will add this: Bo has never impressed at freestyle and he didn’t beat a particularly challenging field in Vegas. Bo never made a junior world team and lost to people such as Heflin and Zahid in 2017 and lost to Gabe Dean in high school. Meanwhile Cox made the senior world team first try out and medaled every time he did. Bo hasn’t beaten anyone with Cox’s resume. The people he man handled were simply not as good as Cox. If Bo beats Cox it will be a shocker. He’s really talented but I didn’t see anything that suggests he’s going to win.
  17. 1 point
    madcat11

    Giving PDIII props

    MyMar
  18. 1 point
    Katie

    Predict the world team

    Perhaps 39 will never happen for a US wrestler. But Chris Campbell did win an Olympic medal when he was almost 38. Not sure about wrestlers from other countries.
  19. 1 point
    Frank_Rizzo

    Sasso

    I don't know anyone that questioned Sasso's dedication in high school. All Sasso ever did in high school was crush people.
  20. 1 point
    Katie

    Let’s begin the Cox/Nickal discussion now

    There was an ESPN article discussing his MMA ambitions a month or two ago.
  21. 1 point
    Ching

    How to stop medical forfeits?

    MFF should not count as a loss. Look, the guy was injured, nobody beat him. Also, Medical Defaults should not be a loss either. Do you really think the healthy wrestler earned that victory? Finally, we really need to look at a way to help kids that get hurt during a match, finish it and lose. I think it should be considered a no contest. It really isn't fair that they get a loss on their record when the reason they lost was likely injury. Wrestling needs to be fair. Not just in the rules, but also with regard to unfortunate circumstances that may happen. Food for thought, what if a kid gets bad coaching? Should that count against him? How about bad nutrition, missing sleep, extra hard classes? These should be discussed in relation to the effect on their record.
  22. 1 point
    VakAttack

    RBY Dominated in Jr Finals

    Not sure I'd say RBY got dominated, but he definitely got horsed and stuck legitimately. No flukishness to it.
  23. 1 point
    We should put a hoop at each side of the mat, and try to put a ball through your end.
  24. 1 point
    Cox has proven his ability to neutralize great offensive wrestlers many times. I don’t expect him to “open up” with Bo. That would play into Bo’s hands. I expect low scoring matches where he looks for Nickal to take chances where he can counter his way to points.
  25. 1 point
    Like a fearful octopus spewing an ink cloud, Cox will unleash his sweat tsunami and it will be Bo who slips and slides and falls and Cox the one helping him up.
  26. 1 point
    If Cox wins, it's because he outsweats Nickal... Nickal relies on "grappling", not on the art of slip n' slides. It's a joke... relax people. It's going to be a fun match to see, and quite frankly, I think Nickal would give Snyder what-for as well. I truly believe he's got the moxy, the skill set, and the "IDGAF" attitude to actually pull off beating a world champion.
  27. 1 point
    LJB

    RBY Dominated in Jr Finals

    falls have to be confirmed by the chairman... you will see way quicker falls in the stall fest...
  28. 1 point
    The answer to “Is Bo strong enough to beat him” is yes 100% of the time as long as the other person is in Bo’s weight class. I personally think Cox wins the match(es) but not because Bo Nickal has a strength deficiency (almost funny to even type that). The freestyle experience gap is just too wide and Cox might be the toughest American to score on P4P.
  29. 1 point
    LJB

    RBY Dominated in Jr Finals

    uuummmmm... there are not touch falls in the real styles anymore...
  30. 1 point
    de4856

    Predict the world team

    Well can Ringer beat Dake? You never want to say never, but I am inclined to believe that it's pretty unlikely, especially how Dake raised his game last year, between the Yarygin and the World's. I would say that if Ringer could get into the lineup somewhere, I believe that he is very capable of winning a World medal. I think the question is for Ringer is when and how he gets into the lineup, which I believe will be either in 2020, or 2021. One way I see it is in 2020, when Dake goes down and challenges JB, and if Dake prevails, Ringer can go 79's at the World's. Or the other scenario I can see is Dake does not beat JB, and retires. Either way, I really don't believe Dake will compete through another Olympic cycle. But even though Dake may move out or retire, that still doesn't mean that Ringer is free and clear, he will have to fend off challenges by Zahid and Marky Hall. ( and who knows who else might be out there as well ). The way I see it right now at some weights, a guy may only get one or two shots at making the Senior team, so they need to make the most of their opportunities because there is a lot of talented kids out there waiting for their turn.
  31. 1 point
    Dondante88

    Cass big over Nevills

    But I read on here not too long ago that Nevills, along with Brooks and Beard, are going to win 9+ titles combined?
  32. 1 point
    Ragu

    2019/2020 NCAA Rule Proposals

    The real issue they need to be looking at is the implementation of third party review at all major tournaments, especially conference tournaments and NCAAs...
  33. 1 point
    olddirty

    2019/2020 NCAA Rule Proposals

    Putting a weigh in before finals will make them less exciting. Guys will still be tired and not hydrated. They will also refuse to move up. The finals are so exciting now, they shouldnt F with it.
  34. 1 point
    JeanGuy

    2019/2020 NCAA Rule Proposals

    Those all sound like good changes to me. The MFF's need to be addressed but counting as losses might not be the correct way. I don't have a better suggestion so I am on board. The 2 hour weigh in needs to be for all matches including the finals at NCAA. Guys shouldn't be able to weigh in at 11:00am and wrestle at 8:00pm. I don't think there are huge weight changes through the day but I am sure there are some and even if it is only 5 lbs it can be significant.
  35. 1 point
    Cooch1

    you be the ref...

    There was no penetration. . Close, but no (ahem) cigar.
  36. 1 point
    steamboat_charlie v2

    Giving PDIII props

    Props to Downey on a great weekend. Also want to give a shout out to Reece Humphrey and the job he's doing at the NJRTC--I knew he'd make a great coach whenever he decided to hang 'em up, exciting to see what they're building over there in such a short period.
  37. 1 point
    nhs67

    Predict the world team

    I don't think he is saying Bo is the favorite. I think he is making his picks and admitting that Bo at 30% is not the favorite. I imagine J'den is at 60 or so for him.
  38. 1 point
    No, they wouldn’t, based on the simple fact they turned the job down. Hey, let’s hire a guy who doesn’t want the job. Sound logic. Clemsen will do just fine. He’s in for the long play here. It’s going to take some time.
  39. 1 point
    GreatWhiteNorth

    Aleksandr Karelin at NCAAs

    Let's slow down a bit. 887-2 is a win-loss stat. It is super impressive, but it's not a measure of how great a wrestler is. It's a measure of his longevity. And his longevity is remarkable, as well as his utter dominance. Karelin is, for sure, an iron-man of wrestling. He wrestled for a long time and dominated throughout his career in greco. He only lost a couple times along the way. Now, Hasselrig dominated folkstyle for his (3) years. And as everybody knows, folkstyle and Greco are very different animals. So is Karelin better because he had longevity and created better stats? No. Hasselrig takes any NCAA folkstyle match against Karelin every day, all day long.
  40. 1 point
    Coach_J

    Giving PDIII props

    Over the years I grew sick of this guy with all the drama and squandering of opportunity (particularly after his d-bag dad felt a need to to be his press agent). But the guy in this interview comes off as likable and someone who appears to have grown up a lot. If this is who he really is now, props to him and hopes that he can keep on this path.
  41. 1 point
    simple

    U.S. Bank Stadium 2020 NCAA Championships

    The food and beer scene, especially food, in Minneapolis/St Paul is infinitely better than Pittsburgh, Philly, Charlotte, Cleveland, and StL. Not sure why you’d use Manny’s as a reference. They’re an old mediocre overpriced steakhouse. As for the stadium itself, obviously it’s not going to be the best viewing experience for those with cheaper tickets and I think it would be better if they just used 1/2 or 2/3 of it, but I think it’s a good idea. The sport needs to try new things and take occasional risks in order to grow. Maybe people can use the hundreds/thousands they save on tickets next year compared to this year and check out some of the good restaurants.
  42. 1 point
    scramble

    UMD - Coach Announced - CLEMSEN

    I can tell you that there was not much positive reaction. The message boards lit up with negative comments when he got the job. "Who in the heck is Brian Smith" was about the normal statement. This was in part because Terry Brands was rumored to be a candidate. I never heard it confirmed he was, but I do know that was the talk. I was just getting started in my coaching career in Missouri about the time Smith went to Missouri. I can also tell you I was one of maybe a handful of people who said give it time. Because I had known of Smith before he went to Missouri I was confident he would turn the program around and make it a consistent top 20 and occasional top 10 team. He has surpassed that. As negative as it was when he came in it was even worse when he booted Scott Barker, the defending national runner-up, 2 years into the job. A lot of people went ballistic. However, there was a core of fans and coaches that respected how he was insistent at changing the culture. About 2-years after that the rest is history. He began producing a few All-Americans, then a national champ in Askren and so on. Not only did he change the culture at Mizzou, but I believe he had a hand in changing the culture of wrestling in Missouri as a state. He was great with PR. He got involved with people at the State High School Association and began connecting with coaches. He advocated for the sport with the High School Association and got involved with wrestling at all levels in the state. Camp numbers exploded, teams from all over the state were going to the camps, and some of the state rules for high school started to shift and loosen up a little with how coaches could work with kids in FS/GR and teams traveling during season. He was not responsible for it, but I do think his involvement helped with shift and changes. Missouri is now producing several nationally ranked kids, and having success at the D1 level. The one thing that the good coaches who turn programs around have in common is that they can change the culture. Sure it is a little easier at a powerhouse program. However, look at Lock Haven, Wyoming, Rutgers, Virginia Tech, Iowa State as of recent, and even Northern Colorado, Tom Ryan when he was at Hofstra. Yes, a few have bigger college wrestling names, but in the end, all of them were able to shift the culture. Heck, Dresser has done it twice. Nothing can change in a down program unless you change the culture. If Clemson does that at MD they will be a top 20 team within 4 years. Maybe sooner. Once that happens you can build into a top 10.
  43. 1 point
    littlepun

    UMD - Coach Announced - CLEMSEN

    Great hire, IMO. One of my wrestlers (and unofficial foster kid) wrestled for Clemsen at Oregon State. I was always impressed with the way Alex conducted himself and provided leadership for the wrestlers in his area of responsibility. He has a sharp mind, not only the sport, but the psychology of wrestlers. It was a loss to Oregon State when Clemsen moved on. I figured he would end up as a D1 head coach. Reviving a team at the bottom of the Big 10 is a tough job for your first head coaching gig, but I think Alex is up to the task.
  44. 1 point
    randyfoxwell

    How to stop medical forfeits?

    Everyone agrees that if someone is actually injured that they shouldnt be competing man. But do you really think that people arent abusing the medical forfeits?
  45. 1 point
    Division matters because most of the elite talent is in D1. It's almost two completely different sports from D1 to D2 from what I've seen.
  46. 1 point
    You'd put Ken Anderson from Wartburg ahead of David Taylor? No. Different divisions. you probably think carter Jordan was a better coach than jim miller or mike denney because they haven't coached d1 champs
  47. 1 point
    You'd put Ken Anderson from Wartburg ahead of David Taylor?
  48. 0 points
    Division matters because most of the elite talent is in D1. It's almost two completely different sports from D1 to D2 from what I've seen. Superold, I'm curious by what you mean by almost two completely different sports? Can you give examples of how they are almost completely different?
  49. 0 points
    You'd put Ken Anderson from Wartburg ahead of David Taylor? No. Different divisions. So? Anderson is a 3 time NCAA champion, Taylor is a 2 time NCAA champion. The only reason division would matter is if 'degree of difficulty' is factored in.
  50. 0 points
    You'd put Ken Anderson from Wartburg ahead of David Taylor? No. Different divisions.
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