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Only Cael makes stuff like this possible.

Which match was in question in '19? Also, nice attempt at a straw man. I didnt say anything about the season and you are refuting my argument correct? Mueller and Picc were both AA's the year before that. Does that count for nothing? Also does the fact that Lee beat them more convincingly mean nothing? You are cherry picking results. You discredit NATO and Suriano because the didnt win titles the year before. Also in the next post you say this: Suriano may not have wrestled in the Ncaas but he has never lost to a non AA. Naming only finalists, Suriano has beaten Cruz, Lizak, Moisey, Micic and of course Fix. I'm surprised that you would even bring up Natos career as he has also never lost to a non AA. Finalists he has beaten: Lizak, Moisey, Lee, Micic, Clark, Gilman, Megaludos, Delgado. Also interesting enough NATO MD Eierman when he was down at 133 for a time. Wrestlestat should have told you that, but it's pretty clear you are not going to contradict your narrative. Fact is that not even Heil has a record like that. He has beaten only two eventual champs ever in Ashnault and Gross, and he has plenty of losses to non AAs. Keep in mind this is the criteria you used for your arguement. How could you miss all that if you are actually trying to make a point worth listening to? Yes in a perfect world Lee would have been able to beat both Suriano and Cruz in the finals. The fact that Cruz lost to another stud, who would also be a champ the following year still somehow means that Lee benefited from weak path? Crazy to look at it that way considering that outcome wasn't an upset and Suriano had beaten Cruz the year before. Think of all the things you need to ignore to make that statement about a weak path. You can try to spin the logic any way you want but youre just not really that good at it. Honest question... is Eierman the greatest wrestler in college not named Yianni? I realize that you need him to be at that level to maintain your stance, but I think it's safe to say that claiming wins over the likes of SeDarian Perry, Kyle Shoop and Colton Mccrysal to prop up someone as being a top level talent has never been done before on this board. Ice those shoulders. Get some rest. You must be exhausted from all that reaching.

This show got wrestling headlines all over the web. Hundreds of sites picked up the story and it put 5,000 fans in an iconic theater. Save the size of the stage, everything about this was a “W” for wrestling. Since we are way too stiff to do this typically, it took some hype to make it happen. This is such a positive for the sport. You think JB isn’t going to go out there and compete and just make the wrestling part of it a show? The residual impact of this won’t be felt for a while, but since none of these matches count anyway, showcase the sport and that’s what the entire event did.

https://ubgivingday.buffalo.edu/giving-day/14282/set/1192 University at Buffalo Day of Giving results for athletics: Rank Department Raised 1 Football Excellence Fund $6,150.00 2 Track and Field/Cross Country $4,295.00 3 Men's Wrestling $2,425.00 4 Men's Basketball Excellence Fund $2,030.87 5 Women's Basketball Excellence Fund $2,002.61 6 Women's Volleyball $1,410.00 7 Intercollegiate Athletic Fund $1,350.00 8 Athletics Capital Projects $1,070.00 9 Men's Tennis $953.00 10 Women's Tennis $830.00 11 Women's Swimming and Diving $550.00 12 Women's Softball $500.00 13 Women's Soccer $300.00 It is interesting when you consider that the "money" sports at Buffalo finished this year as their best seasons across the board and as such you'd expect their to be fan support: Football - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Buffalo_Bulls_football#Divisional_championships Men's Basketball - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Buffalo_Bulls_men's_basketball#NCAA_Division_I_Tournament Women's Basketball - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Buffalo_Bulls_women's_basketball#NCAA_Division_I_Tournament_appearances

https://apswrestling.com/ After the AWL and Real Pro Wrestling it seems that a lot of people want the same thing but why can't they come together for it? First match is slated for July 7th, 2019.

Pulled this kid from Princeton. Cael is using Wharton business has a tremendous recruiting tool.

8 years is a lot of student loans. 6 including grad school and some grants + scholarships was much more than enough for me

Lol at a 25 year old man wanting to compete against college aged people

Getting ridiculous. College is a safe haven from the real world. Coaches want their athletes to stay for selfish reasons. Some athletes can’t fathom dealing with a real job. If a wrestler hasn’t learned the valuable lessons that the sport teaches by age 22, it’s likely those lessons will never be learned. So a guy sticks around another year and wins a few more matches. Honestly, who really gives a darn. But, to each his own.

With a greyshirt, not to speak of junior high and high school greyshirts (and PG years), will we soon see the 8-year path to graduation in your 30s?

There is buzz that he wants to do more freestyle, and put on more size. If that is the case I imagine he at least stays another year.

You thought correctly.

What a huge bummer. I hope he will be good to go for next year. That cut to 57kg seems pretty harsh though. As a tweener weight I thought he might actually be closer to 65kg.

Another nice article (after BTS match) on Bajrang and Indian wrestling system in general - https://www.newsclick.in/bajrang-punias-millennial-dilemma-indias-olympic-favourite-show-chinks-defensive-armour

Wait till they start busting out double greyshirts...

There won't be any official word.

That is interesting. Nice career path. They are probably a cool family. I remember Coach Koll saying in a preseason press release a couple of years ago that if 141 (Will) couldn't get out from bottom, it was his mom's fault. Very funny.

Personally, after a couple of negative comments about JB, I stopped reading them.....I find him to be very articulate, well rounded, has his life in order, understands what it takes to be a great wrestler, and is a great ambassador for our sport. There's a lot of good stuff going on inside his mind. Fadz

BTS is a charity event, and yes, it seems that the inclusion of Askren dragged in some of the MMA garbage talk. I agree with the comment above saying that it doesn't belong in wrestling. It tarnishes a pure sporting pursuit, one of the few left in existence. I feel that the antics of FLOWrestling and its announcers and behavior also try to sensationalize things to an exaggerated extent at times, but that's just my personal opinion. They are a for-profit business, and sensation brings cash. J. Burroughs is marketing himself, and he should not be criticized in any way for trying to benefit financially from his success and fame. He has given much to the sport of wrestling, much to USA Wrestling. So let them use the smack talk in the BTS charity event; everyone agrees that it is for a good cause, and most of it was just in fun. Askren knew he couldn't win. That said, let's keep it out of Men's Senior International Freestyle Wrestling. I can cite two examples of what I consider USA wrestlers crossing the line with needless, empty talk, and one involves JB. Let's travel back in time to 2016, to the UWW Freestyle World Cup in Los Angeles. Yazdani is peaking in his career at 74 kg., and JB opts out of the event because of the birth of his child. Fair enough, family comes first. However, he then goes on to pull some kind of publicity stunt on FLO with a fake letter, supposedly from Yazdani, a "thank you" for not wrestling the tournament. First, birth of the child or not, neutral observers may have come to the conclusion that JB was dodging Yazdani. But to display the arrogance that JB did, when it was clear from comments from the Iranian coach that they were looking forward and preparing for this match, well, that was too much for me. Result: Yazdani techs Dieringer 10-0 and Iran defeats the USA. Iran sends Jordan Burroughs a gift on the birth of his daughter, some traditional Iranian art or craft. It was beautiful. Class points: Iran: 10 JB: 0 Second case of course was Kyle Snyder after his victory over Sadulaev in their first meeting. Kyle goes over the top in the post-match interview, criticizing Sadulaev's coaches for telling him that he could beat Snyder. He also states in no uncertain terms that in their second meeting, he would beat Sadulaev by a much bigger margin. I mean, man, you won on a last-minute takedown. It's not like it was a decisive victory. We know the outcome here. Sadulaev uses this perceived slight as motivation for training, and decks Snyder in their next meeting. Sadulaev mentions in an interview that he disagreed with the way Snyder trash talked after the match, and after being pinned, Snyder was asked about it. It seemed like it was the first time the idea that his comments could have been considered over the top, and he finally says "fair enough" or something to this effect. To his credit, Sadulaev talks about Snyder after the pin with the utmost respect, calling his a great wrestler and competitor, and looking forward to future meetings. Class points: Sadulaev: 10 Snyder: 0 I know that this is my personal opinion, and please, feel free to disagree. I also agree with Cael's policy of not talking to FLO anymore. Do you remember the interview with CP in which CP makes some recommendation or question about pulling a redshirt as if he were part of the coaching staff? Cael smacked him down. People will make arguments about this, saying that the public relations behavior of a Tom Ryan during the 2017/2018 season is good for NCAA wrestling, or it will grow the sport. I think it just looks stupid, as he says again and again how there will be three tests (the dual, B10s, and the NCAA Championships) and he feels that the Ohio State University is the best squad and so on. Cael stays silent, and his team wins each of the meetings. The Ohio State University squad even makes a video for the NCAA championships, saying how it's their year. Didn't happen. Criticize Cael for not granting more access, saying that he could do more for the sport. He is being himself, and I agree with it. He won't make himself a part and parcel of the FLO sensation brigade, and I salute him for being true to his concept of the sport.

There is tbar too. All of his usernames love him. Everyone else....

Sorry that's all you get. Unfortunately it isn't easy to search matches by the moves used in them. Any luck finding a video of someone completely letting go of the leg on a high-c to defend the crotch lift in competition?

Penn st getting all the brown wrestlers

Wow so when I posted about Otoguro in the past I didn’t yet know he existed ? I must be awesome.

This is subjective as hell but I think Snyder having so much early success is a factor. Most if not all the young studs know each other and have wrestled either together on teams or as contemporaries who bump into each other regularly. When one of your peer group is all of a sudden a world and then Olympic champ, it makes others think they can do it too. It removes the intelectual “5-minute” barrier.

you been messin around

KMF's got the braking news, Cinnabun's got the baking news.

The most interesting entry on that list is Will Koll: The son and grandson of great wrestling coaches is pursuing a PHD in physics!

Maybe Taylor was the best P4P last year as he wrecked everyone. But that is one year, albeit, a fantastic one. Taylor has one World medal over the past 4 years. Sad has 4 world medals over the last 4 years. Snyder has 4 world medals over the last 4 years. And all three have been active the last 4 years. Taylor just came into his own last year and was a wrecking ball. Very exciting to watch. mspart

Seriously? Watch the post-match interview; they were obviously playing it up..no sane person thought that Askren had a prayer, especially Askren. I see nothing but Respect here. That said, this would look MUCH worse the other way if JB got in a cage with Askren. Ya'll don't give MMA nearly enough credit. put some gloves on with anyone half decent and see how far only wrestling will take you.

I think a few things have helped us improve: Internet resources like Flowrestling have helped youth coaches and young wrestlers with technique. The regional training center system has been a success. It just fits our overall development system much better. There’s now more money available to wrestlers, including from endorsements, Living the Dream, camps, etc. It helps our top guys extend their careers.

All I see is smallmouth, perch, and walleye. Sent from my XT1254 using Tapatalk

Recency bias. Go watch the Cox vs Snyder live 1-min go on Flo to remind your brain of how Cox moves.

Randoms don’t have to vet their info. Blind squirrels. It’s a close-knit sport, so even those of us who legit cover it can get beat by a friend of a friend. Hearing something and posting it without any blowback doesn’t mean it’s consistently reliable. Especially when you live on social and can delete all the times you’re wrong. The social accounts for the usual suspects are faster than websites.

That’s 100% of people. Does this mean that nobody is successful? Because that’s not true.

I'm from MD and have followed the ups and downs of Pat's tumultuous career, going all the way back to his freshman year at Mt. St. Joseph HS, and have to say it is most gratifying to see this latest, seemingly more adult/mature version of PDIII. He may have his detractors, but IMO, he's a great example of what you can accomplish in this sport thru true grit, determination, and perseverance. Good luck to him in his quest to make it to the top thru 2020.

Props to Downey on a great weekend. Also want to give a shout out to Reece Humphrey and the job he's doing at the NJRTC--I knew he'd make a great coach whenever he decided to hang 'em up, exciting to see what they're building over there in such a short period.

Over the years I grew sick of this guy with all the drama and squandering of opportunity (particularly after his d-bag dad felt a need to to be his press agent). But the guy in this interview comes off as likable and someone who appears to have grown up a lot. If this is who he really is now, props to him and hopes that he can keep on this path.

Oh boy....this ought to get a reaction! LOLzzzz