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  1. 5 points
    Plasmodium

    The DECISION (yianni v retherford)

    The real issue is that there was no scoring issue and the match was over. How hard is it to kick that brick back to the NLWC? Those are the rules. No interpretation needed!
  2. 5 points
    His genius engineer The Johns Hopkins daddy can afford it.
  3. 4 points
    swoopdown

    The DECISION (yianni v retherford)

    The optimal freestyle judge panel consists of 1) a mind reader to devine intent, 2) a physicist to differentiate continuous action and rest and 3) a poster from this forum to explain forevermore that the other two are wrong. Sent from my moto e5 play using Tapatalk
  4. 3 points
    scribe

    The DECISION (yianni v retherford)

    I don't know anything yet. I just wanted to be the one to start this thread and get a bunch of guys are excited now over nothing.
  5. 3 points
    Plasmodium

    The DECISION (yianni v retherford)

    ? He could have thrown that brick 45 seconds prior and then the outcome wouldn't be in question. That risked a three point match and he was unwilling to do that. The refs were not following the rules, so there will be arbitration.
  6. 2 points
    NJDan

    The call

    Why do you say they had to wait until 0:00. Z and Y were at loggerheads. A stalemate could have been called at any time.
  7. 1 point
    gowrestle

    Thoughts From an NCAA Champ

    Recently I was talking to a former 2 time NCAA champion. He is a decent guy and has had a successful post wrestling career. He said his success was merely a split second of notoriety. At the Nationals he was lauded with attention and clearly felt like a celebrity. “Everyone wanted a piece of me.” Now he says, except for family and friends, no one knows what he accomplished more than 15 years ago. “The celebrity status is gone!” He is okay with the impact that time has had on his life and definitely is not a guy yearning to live in the past. His message is that being a successful wrestler is not nearly as important as some think it is. (Our of respect I am not identifying this person.)
  8. 1 point
    rpm002

    Calling my shot: Graff over Colon

    I'm pretty surprised the Flo guys and 80% of pickers in the final X pool are taking Colon over Graff. Personally, I think Graff is quite likely to win this matchup. Here's why: First, here is the history of Colon vs Graff: They met 3 times in their senior years in college. Colon won 6-0 in a dual at UNI, Colon won 6-3 in the Midlands semifinals, and Graff won 6-4 in the NCAA semifinal. Then they met in 2017 in the Dave Schultz semifinals, where Graff won 11-0. In both folkstyle matches Colon won, he turned Graff from the top position twice and also got a riding time point. In the NCAA semi, Colon got 2 escapes and 2 stall points from the top position. And obviously in the freestyle matchup, Colon didn't score. There's two big things to note. First the trendline is clearly in Graff's favor.... he's done better against Colon each time. But even more critically: Colon has 0 career takedowns vs. Graff in their 4 matchups (vs 5 for Graff)! Now let's go to the tape from their 1 freestyle match-up: Graff gets 2 takedowns, one at the 3:06 mark and one at the 4:45 mark of the video. They are very similar and classic Graff single-leg attacks where he gets the leg, but keeps his body away and to Colon's side. This is the best way to attack Colon If you get between his legs (as Nico often does and Graff did at the 2:07 mark of this video, without success) or go for double legs (like Garrett often does), you leave yourself vulnerable to Colon's world-class chest wrap. But swing singles are what Graff does and that is the best possible type of attack to have in your arsenal vs. Colon. Obviously if Colon does somehow get on top, his gut wrench is very dangerous. But Graff's par terre is quite good as well and given the history between the two, he is the more likely to get a chance to use it. The Flo guys haven't really gone into much detail but seem to be picking Colon with confidence because "Graff is inconsistent". But in the time since getting teched by Graff above, Colon has losses to Wright, Kindig, Brewer (by tech), Garrett twice (the 2nd being a tech in the first 90 seconds), and Suriano. So I don't really see one guy as much more consistent than the other. Both have had their share of big wins and tough losses. The bottom line is the way to beat Colon is to clear ties to stay out of trouble (avoid double unders), don't take bad shots that Colon will counter, but instead selectively choose your spots to take single leg attacks. Graff did this previously and his SKWC counterpart Suriano just did it against Colon as well. Styles make fights and I think this Graff's style matches up very well and with Colon and he will prevail and advance to Worlds.
  9. 1 point
    If you think its ok that Yianni wrestled the last minute under the assumption that he was winning and had it flipped you are a clown.
  10. 1 point
    headshuck

    J'Den "Lion Slayer" Cox

    Can’t fault him for not slaying any buckeyes. According to The Ohio State University's athletics department website, a buckeye is "a small, shiny, dark brown nut with a light tan patch that comes from the official state tree of Ohio, the buckeye tree." He’s a lion slayer.
  11. 1 point
    GockeS

    The call

    this is exactly right. but some people think common sense is lacking
  12. 1 point
    rpm002

    Final X - Lincoln

    Fix in 3 - All 3 matches will be close. This is the only one of the 5 where I wouldn't be surprised at all if it went the other way. Graff in 2 - As detailed in my other thread, I think this is a favorable matchup for Graff. Green in 2 - Deakin was underrated going into the Open, but Green will make adjustments and get the W. Burroughs in 3 - Not sure why, but have a strange hunch IMar will sneak out a match somehow. But don't see Burroughs losing this in Lincoln. Snyder in 2 - Different year, same result.
  13. 1 point
    Coach_J

    PDIII Needs your dough

    Richard Perry needs/needed our help--his life and his family's life will never be the same. PDII blathers on about how superior and rich he is; sorry, I'll save my donations for someone who truly needs it.
  14. 1 point
    VakAttack

    The call

    It has to be this, nothing else makes sense. If they claim that they accepted Penn State's challenge and the challenge was of the last sequence, that challenge was denied. So that means Yianni would be given a point. The ONLY thing that makes sense is that they are claiming the challenge applied to the scoring sequence from the beginning of the exchange, which, by rule, should not have been allowed, since no brick was thrown within 5 seconds, or even close to 5 seconds, of that exchange. Basically, what this allows for, if allowed thru, is that a coach can allow a wrongly scored exchange to sit up there and leave one wrestler believing he is wrestling with a lead, and then saying at the end of the match when he has not time left to try to win "just kidding, you were actually losing the whole time." Miss me with the "they should always be trying to score" junk, because that is just not reality at this level where the margins of error are so small.
  15. 1 point
    Housebuye

    The call

    I’ve used up all my likes for the day. Sorry.
  16. 1 point
    NJDan

    The call

    On that we-- and all clear thinking people-- are agreed.
  17. 1 point
    Also don’t overlook the uniqueness of the opportunity he had at PSU. While he still had huge star power (and was young enough to be in the room every day kicking his kids butts) he was handed the keys to the flagship school in the state that produces the best NCAA wrestlers. None of the guys on the list of current stars who could be future coaches is going to get a situation like Cael got at PSU. Up until this year you could’ve argued Rutgers majorly underperformed the level of its in-state talent and someone like JB could come in and light the program on fire...but with the momentum they’ve built and this year’s results that argument is harder to make.
  18. 1 point
    justafan

    The call

    I'm not talking about how Tucci scored it.Im talking about it being reviewed it was gonna be reviewed regardless of what scenario you would like to choose.Once the Chair went 2 and 2 it was gonna end up in a Tucci review.And that scoring situation was gonna be scored again by Tucci.Not sure how people are in the camp that you can't go back that far when that scoring situation was what caused created the confusion.If your saying Cody can't throw the brick that late then you don't understand the rules the 5 seconds is irrelevant when the scoreboard is wrong.The Chair can't decide 2 and 2 on his own without a conference.You don't think the right thing happened because you want more time on the clock when that isn't a current option.If your for a rule change ok that's your opinion but in the current rule set Zain is the winner
  19. 1 point
    "Hasta lasagna don't spill any on ya"
  20. 1 point
    JasonBryant

    Women's College Wrestling

    Comparing NFHS #'s in 2017-18 to NCAA Participation #'s in the same year for girls. This only includes NCAA schools, not schools from other divisions. With the NCAA not tracking women's wrestling, my women's college wrestling estimate will run high, approximating 30 athletes per school of the 17 NCAA schools that have wrestling programs prior to next season. The women's NCAA wrestling #'s are the only thing here that are have not officially been tracked. NCAA Championship Sports Rowing/Crew HS: 2,094 NCAA: 7,277 Sand Volleyball HS: 1,734 NCAA: 1,165 Fencing HS: 2,085 NCAA: 706 Gymnastics HS: 18,867 NCAA: 1,547 Ice Hockey HS: 9,609 NCAA: 2,400 NCAA Emerging Sports Equestrian HS: 1,200 NCAA: 1,381 Rugby HS: 539 NCAA: 480 Squash HS: 63 NCAA: 436 Potential Emerging Sports Women's Wrestling HS: 16,562 NCAA: **480** (high estimate) There will be 27 NCAA schools with varsity wrestling programs competing or scheduled to compete at the start of the 2020-21 season. We're adding women's programs at the NCAA level at a pretty good clip. In the last three years, 31 new women's teams have been added or announced to be added. Of those, 18 are at NCAA schools. As it relates to tracked HS girls participation (from the NFHS), here's how girls wrestling has grown at the HS level in the past decade. 2009: 6,025 2010: 6,134 2011: 7,351 2012: 8,235 2013: 8,727 2014: 9,904 2015: 11,496 2016: 13,496 2017: 14,587 2018: 16,542 With now 18 states sanctioning or ready to sanction girls wrestling, this number will only go upward.
  21. 1 point
    since dake said he wouldnt be in shape by fargo i dont think it will happen
  22. 1 point
    It's hard to imagine an injury that happened six months ago will be healed enough to compete this weekend but wasn't healed enough last weekend.
  23. 1 point
    rpbobcat

    Thoughts From an NCAA Champ

    I've been asked a number of times "with what you're going through now,was it worth it ? YES !
  24. 1 point
    gimpeltf

    The call

    I should add a nuance to terms here (my opinion though). Most people are saying initiated meaning to the whole sequence. I'm suggesting it's possible for each wrestler to have initiated some part of the action. Z by pushing with his left foot and possibly diving over (see Sadulaev clip). Y by pushing with his left foot and possibly pulling Z over with the lock. My gut tells me that if Y initiated his action first then it should be only for him. But if Z initiated first it's then possible for Y's motion to also score since that's what turned Z over. Also, some seem to be trying to interpret rules in English that were written in French. The rules have always been more of a set of guidelines. Tucci talked about the 5 second rule (so to speak) and said it wasn't really hard and fast.
  25. 1 point
    tec87

    PDIII Needs your dough

  26. 1 point
    steamboat_charlie v2

    Final X - Lincoln

    I'm not sleeping on Gomez, but that was 8 years ago and 30 pounds ago. Sure he gives guys that rely on their quickness some trouble, but I think he probably gets bullied by Martinez.
  27. 1 point
    steamboat_charlie v2

    Final X - Lincoln

    Agreed--I just don't think it should be written off as a foregone conclusion. JB nearly dropped one to Franklin Gomez just a couple months ago, and Martinez is at least at that level.
  28. 1 point
    steamboat_charlie v2

    Final X - Lincoln

    That's a little harsh on Martinez. He's certainly competed against world class athletes in the past 12 months, and he had some decent wins at the World Cup. IMO he's much improved over last year, although I'm still a little worried about his gas tank late.
  29. 1 point
    Crotalus

    PDIII Needs your dough

    If you don't give him money, he's going to have to go around mugging old ladies. And it will be your fault. It's never his. So please contribute.
  30. 1 point
    TobusRex

    Thoughts From an NCAA Champ

    We wrestlers live in a pretty small world. Guys who are big celebrities to us are nobodies to the rest of the world. Whenever I wax poetic on the great wrestlers to my everyday friends they look at me like I'm stepping out of a flying saucer. Your friend was a National Champion. TWICE. I guarantee I know his name. I guarantee his accomplishments will be appreciated by those of us who still love college wrestling. Ultimately the fact of the matter is this: we all grow old. Our wrestling careers, except for those masochists who go into coaching, generally end by the time we reach 25 years old. The very talented guys may be able to squeeze out a few more years trying to win World/Olympic titles. I'm 54 years old, the last time I stepped on a mat was 1993. The only things that remain of my wrestling career are the memories. Mostly good, some bad, and a whole lot of stupid ones :D
  31. 1 point
    justafan

    The call

    Ref offered 2 the judge offered 2 and the chair went 2 and 2.The 2 and 2 should not have gone on the board without a conference to discuss the points.The 2 and 2 wasn't offered so they need a conference
  32. 1 point
    rpbobcat

    Thoughts From an NCAA Champ

    Like "where do you see yourself in 5 years,10 years" ?
  33. 1 point
    AHamilton

    PDIII Needs your dough

    His dad has a very nice swimming pool.
  34. 1 point
    PSU now has 6-7 returning AAs (Konel being the question). Assuming no Konel, that means: 6 returning AAs including 4 potential champs Out of the other 4 weights (125, 149, 157, 197) 125: #34 2018 recruit and had redshirt year 149: #20 2017 recruit, cadet world champion 157: #6 recruit 2017, Junior world bronze, NCAA qualifier, 197: #11 recruit 2018 This doesn’t include Aaron Brooks, #2 recruit 2018 or Seth Nevills #22 2018. As an aside, the class of 2017 may end up being the best ever.
  35. 1 point
    buckshot1969

    PDIII Needs your dough

    If everybody just gave $5 he’ll make his goal. Sometimes it feels even better helping people you’re not a fan of. The guy has struggled and maybe a little love from the wrestling community will help his mental state
  36. 1 point
    Yellow_Medal

    PDIII Needs your dough

    I see he plans on taking more than one of his families.
  37. 1 point
    CoachWrestling

    PDIII Needs your dough

    Whoever donated with the name Sadulaev, you’re hilarious
  38. 1 point
    GockeS

    The DECISION (yianni v retherford)

    how do you know who won? you haven't seen the 3rd match yet.
  39. 1 point
    GockeS

    The call

    im betting even Tbar thought yanni won, no matter which category he falls under.
  40. 1 point
    scribe

    The DECISION (yianni v retherford)

    And in the end, they’ll restore Yianni to the world team. He is just a better wrestler. Zain’s damn good tho as an alternative.
  41. 1 point
    scribe

    The DECISION (yianni v retherford)

    I know. They waited until well after the match expired before rolling back yiannis points.
  42. 1 point
    tbert

    The DECISION (yianni v retherford)

    They have as much time as needed to take away a world team bid from a wrestler who earned it. Look under the Leroy Smith clause.
  43. 1 point
    qc8223

    The call

    I'd go 2 and 2. Sure Zain is elevating that leg, but he had been elevating that leg for 20 seconds and Yianni was not exposed yet. Yianni wasn't exposed until the roll was initiated. I don't know why people continue to say Yianni didn't stop the action. That rule is applicable to situations where guys are driving through on their feet (like the first exchange off the whistle). Zain's momentum was stopped for 20 seconds in the crackdown. Furthermore, Yianni clearly also changed Zain's direction. Zain was moving left and then was taken through to his right. The idea that Zain was trying to initiate a roll over the top is completely inconsistent with the way he wrestled Yianni in all 3 matches and his style in general. He clearly was only attempting to elevate that leg to slowly tip Yianni close enough to his back to expose or enough to create an opening for him to cut across to a double. In the process, his hips came up too high and Yianni took advantage of the situation and took him through for 2. There's been a lot of bad interpretation of the rules by applying rules from one situation to another where they don't actually apply. If Yianni did not meet the criteria for "stopping" Zain's move, you have eliminated all counter exposures from freestyle wrestling. You will not see a more stopped move than bogging somebody down in a crackdown for 23 seconds. Zain's move was "stopped" (for the purposes of Yianni now being eligible to counter expose) the second they went to the crackdown position and Zain had to start readjusting his shoulder because Yianni had beaten it. Then it becomes a back and forth positioning battle where each wrestler was in the advantage position for a few seconds before the other adjusted. It wasn't a case of continuous improvement, and even if it was, that doesn't mean the move wasn't stopped. The direction and momentum of the initial attack was changed by transitioning to the crackdown position.
  44. 1 point
    wildcatfan1992

    Is Nickal done now?

    Why are his friends goals/dreams more important than his own? I beat out one of my very best friends in wrestle offs in hs because that is the weight I felt I would be most successful at. If I had said, " well, I'll let him have that spot" I don't think I would have had the same level of success. Bo should do what is best for Bo. If that means going 86 kg and challenging Taylor, so be it. They have 50+ years to mend fences and be BFF's. But going against Cox 10 lbs under weight is severely handicapping himself, even though I don't think he beats Cox as a full size 92 kg.
  45. 1 point
    TBar1977

    USAW's coverage is just sad

    The real purpose of this thread is public litigation of the match. He started another separate thread but it wasn't going in the direction he wanted.
  46. 1 point
    Boompa

    Who will be the next Cael (as a coach)?

    If Dresser develops a super star from Iowa State and then that superstar takes over a high profile program but we are 15 years away from that. Only happens every 40 years.
  47. 1 point
    wrestfan

    Iran Wrestling News

    interesting interview with Mohammad Hossein Mohammadian (and his father Olympic silver medalist Askari Mohammadian) https://www.tarafdari.com/sites/default/files/contents/user359161/video/avc_untitled_project.mp4 he still claims he is innocent and I somehow believe him. but that was very stupid from the federation's doctor telling him to lie and make things worse. after 4 years of suspension he will be available from October 2019 and he claims he is up for the challenge at 97kg for the Olympics and he already has plans for Snyder and Sadullaev ! first let's see if he can make his own province (Mazandaran) team !
  48. 1 point
    TBar1977

    Thoughts From an NCAA Champ

    His words prove what all of us should already know. No one should get into sport for the notoriety. You should get into sports, and wrestling in particular, for the life skills and life habits you get from the sport. Those two things pay huge dividends thrughout your life.
  49. 1 point
    rpbobcat

    Thoughts From an NCAA Champ

    What I find is that people who wrestled in high school and, for whatever reason,either didn't try to wrestle in college,or decided to quit early on,are, for lack of a better word,"impressed" if you were able to wrestle in college,especially if you were D-1. What I do find surprising is how many people are still "shocked" that "jocks" like me,get degrees in subjects like engineering.
  50. 1 point
    BobbyGribbs

    2019/2020 NCAA Rule Proposals

    I hear ya. I do. I am for making it optional and not mandatory. I always wore them and am glad I can wear ear buds.
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