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  1. 5 points
    DFino

    Abbas Jadidi VS ....

    Chigurh: What's the most you ever lost in a wrestling match? Angle: Sir? Chigurh: The most. You ever lost. In a wrestling match. Angle: I don't know. I couldn't say. [Chigurh flips a quarter on the mat and covers it with his hand] Chigurh: Call it. Angle: Call it? Chigurh: Yes. Angle: For what? Chigurh: Just call it. Angle: Well, we need to know what we're calling it for here. Chigurh: You need to call it. I can't call it for you. It wouldn't be fair. Angle: I didn't put nothin' up. Chigurh: Yes, you did. You've been putting it up for the whole match you just didn't know it. You know what date is on this coin? Angle: No. Chigurh: 1996. It's been traveling twenty-two years to get here. And now it's here. And it's either heads or tails. And you have to say. Call it. Angle: Look, I need to know what I stand to win. Chigurh: The gold meal. Angle: How's that? Chigurh: You stand to win the gold meal. Call it. Angle: Alright. Heads then. [Chigurh removes his hand, revealing the coin is indeed heads] Chigurh: Well done. [Angle nervously takes the gold medal] Chigurh: Don't put it in your pocket, sir. Don't put it in your pocket. It's your lucky gold medal. Angle: Where do you want me to put it? Chigurh: Anywhere not in your pocket. Where it'll get mixed in with the other gold medal decision you got last year in the 1995 World finals. Which you did.
  2. 4 points
    MedicineMan

    Abbas Jadidi VS ....

    Anton Chigurh, who wins?
  3. 3 points
    Coachp

    Bad Look For Wrestling

    It wasn't just a 'bad call', because that was then compounded by total failure by the officials to allow an improper challenge, and then compounded that by overstepping the scope of the review, going back a minute into the match, and then changing the score, and the outcome. There was nothing else that could be done but the legal system, to get it right. I think they should have corrected the outcome of this match in the arbitration, resulting in a tied series, one win apiece, with one match left to wrestle for the spot.
  4. 3 points
  5. 2 points
    Better off going after his good leg.
  6. 2 points
    Never let facts get in the way of what you think is a good story. 2010: 34-2, 7 falls, 14 bonus 2011: 31-2, 7 falls, 20 bonus 2012: 35-0, 12 falls, 21 bonus 2013: 37-0, 18 falls, 28 bonus (8 pins in the first period; talk about clamming up!) So his "clammed up" junior and senior years shows more than double the pins from his freshman/sophomore years, and nearly half again as many total bonus wins. Examples: his senior year at CKLV, he had two pins and two majors (only a 6-0 decision in the final). At Southern Scuffle, he had two pins, two majors, and a 3-2 decision over some unknown guy in the final. At EIWA, he had two falls and two majors and a tech fall. Where did you get your idea from, anyway?
  7. 2 points
    jeffrideal

    Bad Look For Wrestling

    This argument is lame on many different levels. Football is a team sport where there are over 20 players on the field at any time and only a hand full of refs. In football, cheating is acceptable and the goal is to not get caught (holding is a great example). In wrestling, you have 3 refs or more to watch 2 guys. Ratios are already different. Also, there is protocol or rules in wrestling. Specifically when you can throw the brick. If PSU coaches wanted to challenge something with 50 seconds to go, why didnt they throw the brick? Why did they wait until the end when their guy had lost on the score board. Answer is they didnt like the outcome, so they protested by throwing the brick, 50 seconds after the alleged incident. Here is where they are similar, in NFL you have to protest a call before the next snap of the ball. In wrestling, you have a limited amount of time to protest, and it is not 50 seconds after the incident. The other problem you have is that you are comparing a professional sport to an Olympic sport. Big difference. I think if you do some research, you will find a lot of arbitration in Olympic sports more so than you will find in professional sports. As far as the snowflake comment, I think you have a pony in this race and I would say you are projecting with that comment.
  8. 2 points
    Finally!!! You two agree. Phew...
  9. 1 point
    Ragu

    Wrestlers who have the most to prove

    My last "article" if you want to call it discussed my most anticipated wrestlers for this upcoming season but now let's discuss a far more interesting topic, the ones who have the most to prove. These guys have the talent to but maybe haven't broken through when it matters, have more talent than their post-season finish indicates, had a previous AA finish but didn't do the same last season, or whatever it may be. Everyone has something to prove but I feel these guys have a little extra to do. I'm leaving out first year starters as they haven't proven themselves yet so obviously they have the most to prove but putting in every first year starter would be annoying so just assume they're on the list. 125 - Jacob Schwarm and Nick Piccininni Both guys are in their final season and one is an AA and one isn't. Schwarm is a 2 time NQ and has been seeded both times. Both his tournaments have ended too early in my opinion and taking a look at 125 this year, it might finally be his year to break through. The UNI senior has the talent to be at the very least a blood round type of guy. If he stays healthy I think he can prove himself to be an AA. Nick Piccininni might be a weird pick for some people, but think about it. The first time he placed he outperformed his seed like most people thought he would, then he didn't place, and then last year as a 2 seed he came in 5th. He was a prized recruit coming out of HS and is a 2 time AA already so a 3 time AA is not bad at all. But his finishes leave something to be desired. He certainly has the talent to win the whole thing but he has yet to finish higher than 5th. This year I see him having his highest finish but I think it's clear he has something to prove to himself this year. 133 - Micky Phillippi and Chaz Tucker These 2 guys should've both been on the podium at the end of last year. Due to it being such a stacked weight class upsets happen and they missed the cut. They wrestled in the finals of the U-23 WTT finals I believe with Tucker being the winner. Phillippi has a win over NCAA finalist and senior world team member Daton Fix and Chaz Tucker made the U23 team (but won't compete due to school), was the EIWA champion, and split matches with multiple time AA Luke Pletcher. So we know the talent is there and they can perform when the lights are on they just have yet to do it at the big dance. Look for both to break through this year, especially Tucker as it is his senior year. 141 - Tariq Wilson, Tristan Moran, Mitch McKee, Kaid Brock, and Sa'Derian Perry With this weight class being vacated by last years top 3 finishers it leaves it wide open for a new champ and new AA's. We all know Wilson from his run in 2018 to 3rd place and nearly making the finals before losing to eventual champion, Seth Gross, in OT. Last year he was dealing with injuries and yet he still performed pretty well nearly placing again. This year he is up a weight and we all hope he is 100% as his length and talent are usual and fun to watch. Tristan Moran nearly placed last year after transferring from OK St to Wisconsin for his junior year. The transfer paid off as he had a great season for the Badgers but he just missed the podium. His pinning ability is incredible, as evidenced by his OT win over MItch McKee in dual against Minnesota last year by fall. This is his senior year, and with all his talent and how open the weight class is, so look for him to have a breakout season. I can't be the only one who feels like both Brock and McKee are way better than their finishes every year in March right? Brock is a 2 time AA and McKee is a 1 time AA but they are better than that. Whenever they wrestle each other it's a must watch, remember Kaid Brock vs Cory Brewer? I mean these guys are talented enough to make the finals, I just feel like they underperform in March. I hope for both of their senior years a fire is lit in them and they finish highly, no one would complain about a final between these two. Sa'Derian Perry is another cinderella run guy. After EMU dropped their program the year after he had an AA finish, let's take a moment of silence for our fallen program...R.I.P, he transferred to ODU he had his best season record wise, but when it came time to run to another AA finish he bowed out after 3 matches. The kid is in a great room and we know he can turn it on and run on all cylinders when it comes time to. I hope as a senior he goes out standing on the podium. 149 - Jared Prince, Kaden Gfeller, Josh Maruca, Brock Zacherl, Max Thomsen Prince was one match from placing last year and he's very strong on top of being a darn good wrestler. With both finalists graduating this is the perfect time for the senior from Navy to go out on a positive note. I think his specialty is getting better throughout the year so look for him to be at his best in March. Assuming he has a spot in the line-up, Gfeller has to finish an AA. A shock to most people, he went 0-2 his first showing at the NCAA's. As a 2 time Scuffle champ, we all know he's much more talented than that. Watching and looking at Maruca's results really frustrates me because I know he's much better than what his results show. With the weight class being as thin as it is maybe the Sun Devil senior can have a breakout season and finish on the podium to end his career. As a junior, Zacherl was a match away from AA status and heading into his senior year he was hungry for just that until he got hit with the injury bug. This is now his final shot to finish on the podium and perhaps he does, I see him making the blood round at the least and it's difficult denying a senior once he's there. Max Thomsen is an AA, something the other guys listed can't say, but he did that his freshman year and since then he has made the blood round the past 2 years. I think in his senior year he's a sleeper finalist pick as he's really talented when he puts it all together. 157 - Ryan Deakin and Ke-Shawn Hayes Sure, Deakin finished 6th last year. But as a Final-X competitor who has a win over our senior world team rep, 6th seems kind of low, no? At 157 Deakin is absolutely massive and we know he has the chops to beat just about anyone at the weight. He had no bad losses last year but I think he can turn most of those L's into W's this year and possibly make the finals and challenge for the title. No other wrestler in the history of the NCAA has my pity more than Ke-Shawn Hayes. He doesn't need it and probably doesn't want it but I can't help but to feel for the kid. He has yet to wrestle a full season at his actual weight class and yet he continues to impress. His redshirt campaign at 141 saw him take 2 losses and then his first year in varsity action saw him get injured. The next year he had to bump up and still made the blood round and then at 157 last year he was a NQ, at 2 weight classes up. If that doesn't show talent I don't know what does. I hope he can finally get back to 141 and try and compete for a title there because that's how good he truly is. I list him only because that is what weight he went last season but I doubt we see him here again, at least I hope so. 165 - Everyone Where do I even begin. Cenzo doesn't really need to prove anything so let's just do a quick take on anyone who is anyone in this weight. Evan Wick, figure it out man. You beat Marinelli once and ever since you've let him dictate the match and it's incredibly frustrating. He has the all the intangibles to win the whole thing so just do it! Alex Marinelli, you're nicknamed The Bull for a reason so get tougher. I think he can win it too, he is undefeated against Cenzo and has a series lead over Wick. Just get tougher and stay tough in March all the way to the title. Josh Shields, open up please. I know you're in the Pac-12 so your schedule isn't all the tough but your room has incredible practice partners around your weight so we know you stay sharp. Your coaches are world class too so just open it up and you will succeed, I promise. Logan Massa, find that magic again. Your freshman season was something else man, you lit it up. Did the pressure to repeat that season get to you? I don't know what happened because we know you're that good. The room you're in is filled with talent we all just hope you get that magic back. David McFadden, keep climbing that ladder. No matter weight you go this season just keep getting sharper and better. It always seems you hit someone who is on fire at the NCAA's but you stay consistent. Maybe this year you light it up but just keep going. Isaiah White, dictate the match. Whenever you wrestle someone who is a little better or just as good as you you sit back and let them dictate the match, why can't it be you who does that. We all know you have the talent to hang with the best of the best. I think if you opened up a little it wouldn't hurt either. Bryce Steiert, take that next step. You finished 8th last year so what are you going to do to improve that finish? Joe Smith, say no to your coach. Pick a damn weight and stay at it and maintain it healthily. You have so much talent to see it go to waste is a shame. You can win this weight if you are not sucked out so please choose your weight and stay there ALL YEAR. I know he can't tell his father no when he says he's going to change the line-up so this statement is more for John. Please keep your line-up consistent :) thanks. Demetrius Romero, keep it cool and keep proving people wrong. Maybe beating Joe Smith not once but twice was a fluke or maybe it wasn't. I hope he hears the doubters and people choosing against him and it makes him laugh and keeps him hungry to keep proving the doubters wrong because he is seriously good. Just a little something for Cenzo, keep scoring. I see the rest of your teammates lighting up the scoreboard and earning falls why don't you? Your inside trip is dirty and your double is not to be messed with. I understand a win is a win is a win, but come on. I could see you being a head better than this field but you keeping it cose gives them all a chance 174 - Anthony Valencia, Brandon Womack, and Anthony Mantanona I've discussed Valencia in my previous post so I'll keep it short. We all want you to live up to your hype coming out of high school. I hope you're 100% healthy and back to terrorize the field with your quickness and shots from 10ft away like you used to. As a Cornell fan, Womack is incredibly frustrating to me. Watching his unprecedented run to place was something special because it came out of nowhere for me. He looked uber confident and I couldn't wait to see him try and repeat the same magic the next year, he went 0-2. It's like he changed his style and he looks less confident. I don't really understand how he still has eligibility left but I hope he uses it effectively and makes a run like he once did. I kept my eye on Mantanona his freshman campaign and wow what a ride that was. His ceiling is incredibly high but is basement is super low too. If he cleans up some stuff and keeps his explosiveness he can be a special talent. 184 - Shakur Rasheed and Jelani Embree Rasheed being listed goes without saying. He was injured and still showed signs of greatness. I think if he's healthy and focused he has the talent to make the finals. Jelani Embree was a high school prospect that I was super excited about. Super strong, quick, and athletic and he was going to stay local as he is from Michigan. His redshirt year he showed a lot of promise and then nothing last year. I believe he got bit by the injury bug a little so he gets a pass. But now he's had time to rehab and get back to his element. This weight class is deep so navigating it to the podium will prove to be difficult but I think he'll be up for the challenge of it. 197 - Jake Woodley, Thomas Lane, and Kordell Norfleet Woodley had the U23 spot before Bo came and took it, not by domination which surprised me. He won the spot by beating a good group of guys and he was a NQ last year. With how crazy 197 is I think he should be more of a factor this year for the Sooners and improve his postseason finish as he does have the talent. Most of you reading this probably read Thomas Lane and say who? Well the Cal Poly senior is someone to keep your eye on as some of his results are eye opening. Each year he has improved his record and postseason finish, last year one match away from placing. But look at this, he sent AA Jacob Warner to consolations early by a 4-2 dec in OT, only lost to Pat Brucki 4-3, and then lost to Ben Honis 8-5 to end his tournament. He's knocking on the door and perhaps this year he knocks it down. Norfleet is a guy who should be better than he is right now. His practice partners are good all around him and so are his coaches. A previous world team member, he should break through this year and have his best season yet. HWT - Gable Steveson, Demetrius Thomas, and Mason Parris Yes Gable is here and here's why. So many people thought he would go undefeated and win it all his true freshman year, I can't lie and say I didn't believe this too. He was so hyped coming out of HS and when his shirt was torn and he beat then #1 Derek White the hype was lived up to and everyone hopped on for the most part. So much was expected from him that I think a 3rd place finish is disappointing. I know it is for him. Since the NCAA season he's looked even better giving Gwiz a run for his spot. He has yet to beat Cassar and now he has at least 1 more shot at doing so. Thomas was a NAIA transfer where he was a 1 time champ and 2 time finalist and he has done great things at Pitt going 27-6 his first season there but going 1-2 at NCAA's. He's good enough to AA and perhaps his senior season he will. He also plays one mean violin. Junior World Champion Mason Parris does have something to prove. As a true freshman, mistakes are bound to happen and they did and that's what kept him off the podium, that and the fact he's a bit undersized. Once he puts his style together and gets a tad bit bigger he will be an AA and then the sky's the limit. So that's my list and I'm sure I left people off of it so let me know who else has a chip on their shoulder and let me know your thoughts on my list and reasons. If you read all of that, again, thanks. And once again, Flo hire me :)
  10. 1 point
    MDogg

    PED Testing in NCAA

    In my opinion it’s way beyond weird and way past suspicious. By this point someone should’ve at least unknowingly taken a banned substance and failed. Most guys who fail a drug test and use that excuse are lying, but some of them aren’t.
  11. 1 point
    Spent more time than I should have trying to figure out in what way he thought his comments were taken out of context, considering we all responded directly to the comment. Somebody got their feelings hurt when nobody agreed with them.
  12. 1 point
    Just like every lineup including Stanford's. It's 100% true that you think Shields will be the favorite....I would agree that you 100% believe that....but you would be in the minority.... BTW nobody took your comments out of context and if you choose to push the "ignore" button on everyone on here because they disagree with you, well then it's 100% true that I think that is weak.
  13. 1 point
    Cael: I appreciate your loyalty but Yianni seems to have separated himself somewhat. Each match is different but a favorite is a favorite, whether it’s match 1 or 2.
  14. 1 point
    I expect both have some issues injury wise. Just hope neither has it to the point that it really degrades them. FLO said Cornell wanted it very quickly. They didn’t get it that way. Said they USAW pushed it back as far as they could and not interfere with paperwork and logistics for the trip over and registration. If Zain is more than just a bit injured, at this point it makes sense to give him the available time to heal and get to better form.
  15. 1 point
    If Y is a 2-1 favorite he would expect to win either 2/3 of the time. But to win both the odds would be 4/9 assuming odds stayed the same (independent events).
  16. 1 point
    TBar1977

    Bad Look For Wrestling

    Thanks for that information, ugarte. I had no idea how ridiculous the Lindland situation had gotten.
  17. 1 point
    ugarte

    Bad Look For Wrestling

    that's right. cornell and penn state fans can reasonably disagree on the call itself - i still think it should have 2 blue but who cares! - there is much less room for reasonable disagreement on the propriety of the challenge. I can accept that there is some wiggle room on the 5 seconds. Timing here is unavoidably imprecise (since coaches have to watch the wrestling and the scoreboard at the same time) that allowing a challenge a few ticks above 5 seems like a reasonable unspoken concession. Once you get to some point - 10? 15? 20? seconds from the score getting posted it obviously becomes the gamesmanship that the "approximately 5 second rule" was in place to prevent. Because I am this sort of person, I've gone back and read all of the available wrestling arbitration decisions. At the same time as Lindland/Sieracki, Dennis Hall also protested on the grounds that he lost because of uncalled leg blocking. In both the Lindland and Hall cases, the claims that were strictly about disagreeing with scoring decisions were rejected. Looking back, the arbitrator's ruling in Lindland was incredibly bad (and as bad as it was, not reviewable by the courts!) All of Lindland's complaints were about scoring - in a match where he should have been disqualified for biting - and so he lost. When he appealed the results of that decision the arbitrator didn't even evaluate whether that decision was correct but instead found that the USAW review panel improperly excluded some people for conflicts or prior involvement in the decision process and upheld Lindland's objection to the composition of the panel. Rrather than remanding the case back to a properly constituted review panel, the arbitrator inexplicably (but probably because of the compressed schedule) ordered a rewrestle of the disputed match. Sieracki and USAW had every right to think it was BS. In fact, even one of the judicial decisions affirming that everyone had to honor the Lindland award and the results of the re-wrestle clearly thought it was kind of BS.
  18. 1 point
    Regardless of Zain's fitness, I expect Yianni to win both matches convincingly.
  19. 1 point
    Franklin Gomez vs Ikhtiyar Novruzov. the same Olympics. the same day. the same video review Russian guy. https://www.olympicchannel.com/en/video/detail/ikhtiyor-navruzov-uzb-df-franklin-gomez-pur-8-5/
  20. 1 point
    I’m guessing he meant Rashidov.
  21. 1 point
    You got the Nickal vs Martin part right. You just missed the year. 2018 with the team title on the line, Nickal appears to go to his back, tOSU fans go nuts. Nickal elevates. tOSU fans crash. It was a thing of beauty.
  22. 1 point
    MadMardigain

    Abbas Jadidi VS ....

    Finkle is Einhorn?
  23. 1 point
    BTW- I happened to just have a conversation with someone involved in the process of setting this up. The coaches have no say in the officials and none of the officials (including reviewers) will do this match as a couple here have stated. (Yianni and Zain that is)
  24. 1 point
    USMC5702

    Yianni v Zain match date

    Regardless of what your opinion on the arbitration, this match up is one I can't wait to see.
  25. 1 point
    wrestfan

    Iran Wrestling News

    they announced the Greco-Roman team officially 55: Pouya Nasserpour (Khuzestan) 60: Alireza Nejati (Qom) 63: Meisam Delkhani (Fars) 67: Hamed Tab (Khuzestan) 72: Amin Kavianinejad (Khuzestan) 77: Mohammad Ali Geraei (Fars) 82: Saeid Abdevali (Khuzestan) 87: Ramin Taheri (Khuzestan) 97: Mohammad Hadi Saravi (Mazandaran) 130: Amir Ghasemi-Monjazi (Khuzestan) 6 from Khuzestan (and nothing for Tehran). as dominant as Mazandaran in freestyle. only two of them are ex world medalists , and for the other 8, it will be their Senior Worlds debut. 4 of them were in the junior team last year.
  26. 1 point
    That says that position (one knee down) WILL be considered par terre not that others (as I quoted) wouldn't be.
  27. 1 point
    nhs67

    Ringer had absolutely zero for Dake

    Downey wouldn't beat Hidlay right now. Ringer would bulk-smash him.
  28. 1 point
    Bo Nickal losing to Myles Martin their freshman years was best.
  29. 1 point
    I think I would pay $5 to never hear this expression again.
  30. 1 point
    True, but Hidlay got screwed. There is really no doubt about that either.
  31. 1 point
    Jaroslav Hasek

    Examples of clearly ridiculous calls

    it was obviously two when the knee touched, which gets called internationally every time. then it was 2 when Goyzumov's butt touched, then Yazdani exposed Goyzumov with a suck back. Then the Russian ref who refused to look at the replay that clearly showed the two point takedown during the knee touch got expelled from the tournament. https://www.insidethegames.biz/articles/1040862/three-referees-suspended-after-suspicious-officiating-in-quarter-final-as-final-rio-2016-wrestling-golds-decided imo the Yaz v Goyzumov match was the biggest hose job of the tournament, by a large margin.
  32. 1 point
    gimpeltf

    Examples of clearly ridiculous calls

    First, I don't think I was the only one to assume you meant in bounds by on the mat. Second, it doesn't matter how long the knee or butt was down. Third, in my watching video initially was thinking it was close as to whether the knee actually touched. But in reviewing I think it did. Clearly Zach errett did also several times. He was incredulous with the other guy's refusal to see it. Fourth, as to my lack of understanding, I officiated national fs and Greco finals matches over the course of about 7 years. Admittedly that was a while ago but the concepts in this case haven't changed.
  33. 1 point
    LJB

    Koll on the Arbitration

    got to hand it to carl... you don't need the better wrestler if you have a yolo brick and incompetent officials... you can paint it anyway your jingoism compells you to, but, yanni is the one who got screwed in that match... if you are incapable of understanding that then all you need to do is reference to the ruling...
  34. 1 point
    Nay. Foster made a grievous error and landed on his back. Ala Tyler Graff.
  35. 1 point
    LJB

    Bad Look For Wrestling

    it was not just a bad call... bad calls do not get overturned after the fact it was a total breakdown in multiple procedures by incompetent officials... there was/is a procedure in place for that eventuality... it was exercised properly... as it has been multiple times previously... don't look now, but, there might be some kids on your lawn...
  36. 1 point
    The other review official next to Errett hardly looked at the video. I also thought that even if you think the knee didn't quite touch a couple seconds later his butt hit.
  37. 1 point
    The confusing thing about TBar is you don't know in any given second if your confronting stupidity or ignorance....
  38. 1 point
    hotspur

    Bad Look For Wrestling

    Right. The fact that the officials didn't toss the skinhead's brick back at him with the message "too late" is what made wrestling look bad.
  39. 1 point
    Billyhoyle

    Bad Look For Wrestling

    Why are people acting like this hasn't happened multiple times before? It's as if the fans of a certain team started following the sport a couple years ago.
  40. 1 point
    CrewWrestling

    Bad Look For Wrestling

    The “sports world” isn’t paying that level of attention to freestyle wrestling.
  41. 1 point
    WillieBoy

    Best NCAA Championship Match of All-Time

    Schultz vs Banach is it. All the hype of Banach "going for FOUR" - when he was not yet a 3 time champion. Schultz went up a weight specifically to beat him. Then he did just that - like a rented mule. Lots of action and a match to watch if you want someone to see wrestling with passion and excitement.
  42. 1 point
    Any finals match that had Tony Nelson in it would challenge for the most boring
  43. 1 point
    IMO the ncaa finals match with the most thrilling/heartbreaking ending was Dan Dennis-Jayson Ness. I’ll never forget that look on Brands face. I think Dake/Taylor was most anticipated or highest profile finals match of all time, but not necessarily the best. Imar/Nolf is probably my favorite finals match of the past 5-6 years.
  44. 1 point
    JasonBryant

    schedules 2019 - 2020

    Yeah, we do.
  45. 1 point
    Fishbane

    Will John Smith win another title at tOSU?

    I don't think Ohio State has trademarked "the" yet.
  46. 1 point
    The only answer is, 'No." He's never coached or wrestled at tOSU.
  47. 1 point
  48. 1 point
    novalion

    Dake losses. How many and how?

    Because the seeding is based on the entire season, not just one match. Duh. For instance, Reece losing to Thorn in the BIG finals might have something to do with it. Once again, Duh.
  49. 0 points
    This is all academic as the matches are not independent. You get tired after wrestling a match. You could also get injured. You could also adjust your tactics based on the first match. Since Yianni knows he must win match 1 he might press more or wrestle more rigidly. If Yianni wins match 1 he could feel more confidence and wrestler looser in match 2. Likewise if Zain loses match 1 he may press more knowing he must win match 2.
  50. 0 points
    go_rines12

    schedules 2019 - 2020

    We don't care about d10 wrestling around here
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