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  1. 2 points
    Jrr277

    Collegiate world & Olympic champs

    1978 Lee Kemp
  2. 2 points
    By 2028 Pokémon will probably be an Olympic sport, he has options.
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    Berge- serious concussions. Still allowed in the lineup. Kerkvliet- allegedly had one practice in three months after staph and blood poisoning which forced him on bed rest and caused him to lose thirty pounds of muscle. Allowed to wrestle in a d1 dual and an extra match, just to help the team in Big 10 and nationals. Don't forget that he also has an unrepaired torn ACL. Taylor- knocked unconscious at worlds. Seriously concussed. Coaches let him continue to wrestle.
  4. 1 point
    wrestlingphish

    Clowney flakes out again

    Sounds like Downey just decided not to travel to Iowa for his match against Gadson (and BJJ match the next day) and didn't even let the promoters know. Disappointing as I was really looking forward to watching Kyven smash him. On a more positive note, looks like Willie Miklus actually lives the 'anyone, anytime, anywhere' motto that Clowney always (falsely) claimed to live by and has stepped up to wrestle Kyven tonight.
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    Katie

    Collegiate world & Olympic champs

    We all know the list of the four 4x NCAA champs. Somewhat less known, however, is the list of college wrestlers who won world or Olympic titles in the same calendar year as an NCAA title. As far as I know, only seven athletes have accomplished this feat: Uetake, Kemp, Smith, Neal, Burroughs, Snyder, and Steveson. Here's the list: 1) Uetake Sophomore -- 1964 Olympic Champ 2) Kemp Senior -- 1978 World Champ 3) Smith Junior -- 1987 World Champ Senior -- 1988 Olympic Champ 4) Neal Senior -- 1999 World Champ 5) Burroughs Senior -- 2011 World Champ 6) Snyder Junior -- 2016 Olympic Champ Senior -- 2017 World Champ 7) Steveson Junior -- 2020 Olympic Champ Uetake did not compete at worlds after his junior and senior seasons, but he went on the win Olympic gold again in 1968, two years after graduating. In 2015, Snyder was an NCAA runner up and world champ. Has any other college athlete won a world title in the same year he did not win an NCAA title? Finally, Neal holds the distinction of being awarded the FILA Outstanding Wrestler Award as the best wrestler in the world in 1999. That was a pretty remarkable year for him: NCAA champ, Hodge, world champ, FILA Outstanding Wrestler. Edits: Added Lee Kemp to the list & removed Snyder’s freshman year where he was an NCAA runner up
  6. 1 point
    jackwebster

    Globalization of subcultures

    I was watching the men's gymnastics final and noticed that no matter what country they were representing, most of the dudes had the same coiffure: a gelled quiff but a little shorter on top than Morrissey's. I kept noticing similar sorts of things in other sports: hair, sartorial choices, celebration rituals, attitudes toward other competitors, etc. The athletes seemed to have at least as much in common with other folks in their sport as they did with their countrymen. We were seeing global subcultures. Wrestling is no different (wrestlers from every corner of the world are tucking their sweats into their socks). This is a relatively new development (It wasn't that long ago that we saw some serious lezginka in the crowd and on the mat after a big win ... Batirov, if I remember correctly), but the internet is internetting. As a result, I imagine that American wrestling fans would be as or more familiar with Yazdani, Sidakov, and Otoguro than with even the most famous US track and field or swimming reps. So here's my question: Why can't Sadulaev get a shoe? Ps - a few years ago (10?), DoubleSport tried the Belaglozov shoe, and it didn't sell. But that shoe had a lot things holding it back: the sole fell off, the lace cover had the velcro hooks on the wrong side (like the Slay's) so it would shred your skin, and Sergei had not competed in 20 years when the shoe came out, to name a few.
  7. 1 point
    nhs67

    Clowney flakes out again

    Shhhh... If you say his name 3 times Blue Dragons will appear.
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    For most of them, not enough to be comfortable once WWE has washed their hands of them.
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    Sstern

    Penn State's secret sauce

    Cenzo wasn’t exactly long and lanky.
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    I believe Iran forfeits to them in other sports. I would agree about security though. I saw in the articles that Israel is often more culturally aligned with Europe also. I don't know what the percentages are but obviously a lot fled Europe during and after WWII. Just found this about futbol- and not just Iran. http://www.markingthespot.com/feature/why-israel-compete-in-uefa-competitions/
  11. 1 point
    olddirty

    Globalization of subcultures

    Wrestlers have been tucking in non cuffed sweats into socks since before I was in HS. Kids would think those dudes were nerds then they would smoke everyone. It came from necessity, not internet fashion.
  12. 1 point
    Husker_Du

    Penn State's secret sauce

    Score has a point - even when predicting guys to certain schools i often consider Cael's preference for a certain build. however, Score, you're wrong that they are the only kids that flourish. idk that you can put zain in that category. roman and starocci aren't exactly 'long'. nico was no mcdonogh. matt brown doesn't fit. morgan doesn't fit. nick lee isn't built any differently than anyone else at the weight and frankly doesn't wrestle the same ruth/taylor/nolf/cael style. cenzo and mark aren't built any differently. hell Mark and Nico are both pigeon toed. jury is out on Howard, Bartlett and Van Ness but none are long and lanky. when i think of the quintessential Cael preference i think of DT, Nolf, Quentin, Ed (perhaps Kerkvliet).
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    Red95

    Predictions on World Team

    Got it. Sorry I had missed that. Interestingly it's in the article but not actually in the rules they have posted on the event site.
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    1032004

    Globalization of subcultures

    Interesting. I'm sure they may be different but when I was in college in the 2000's our team found a sporting goods store that had a full stock of like 15 year old shoes that were all new in the box for like $30 or less (which we promptly bought almost all of) and I got a pair that looked similar to those. I hated them TBH, felt like you were walking on bricks IMO compared to like Combat Speeds and such. But I feel like most wrestlers still care more about the actual shoe than the name that's on them.
  15. 1 point
    bnwtwg

    Predictions on World Team

    Ehh my bad. She'll curb stomp the field at 53 or 55 so it's just a formality that she has to weigh in twice and wrestle a couple extra matches to blow her lungs out.
  16. 1 point
    If you give a McDonalds bag to a wrestler who's cutting weight and it's filled with cash, you might get punched in the face.
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    1032004

    Globalization of subcultures

    I think your statement is true. But so is the fact that more American wrestling fans are probably familiar with Max Murin than Sadulaev. I don't see why a Sadulaev shoe wouldn't sell amazingly well in Russia though. Speaking of shoes, I did notice that it seemed like a large majority of the international wrestlers (from various countries) all had the same simple Asics shoes. Meanwhile we've got a mixture of Nike (Gable), Asics (Dake), Scraplife (Gilman & Taylor), and Rudis (Snyder)
  18. 1 point
    Oh there's a, "Bell." Ed Ruth loved some, "Bell."
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    India, China, Bhutan, notable champions of free democratic principles such as Iran and Myanmar too among others. Though if you are Indian and obtain citizenship elsewhere, they just consider you an overseas Indian resident, but not a citizen of India anymore.
  20. 1 point
    Le duke

    Toughest weight classes in Tokyo

    I have to imagine 65kg is about the average frame size in a significant portion of the world. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
  21. 1 point
    lu1979

    Predictions on World Team

    It sure didn't look to bad in Tokyo - that was the best version of Gilman I ever saw - even better than 2017.
  22. 1 point
    headshuck

    Kerk back home to Minnesota?

    I’ll bet Dake would go to 12-0 vs Taylor at any weight. Fun!
  23. 1 point
    I expect that JB has been doing pretty well between a) endorsement $s, b) appearance fees, c) coaching and RTC income and d) tournament winnings. The only item of those listed that is at least partially known publicly is how much JB has made off of USAW's Living the Dream Fund. He has received $15 K in 2018 & 19 as well as 2014. He got $ 50 K in 2017, 2015, 2013 & 2011. He got $250 K in 2012. Besides those payouts he was probably paid pretty well for his matches with DT and Zahid recently. I expect that JB has been doing very well over the last 10 years and has been making a decent living. I would be surprised if his yearly income did not exceed 500 K and $ 1Million per year would not shock me. I would not be at all surprised if his new gig at the Penn RTC came with a 6 figure income. I think Gable could replicate that and perhaps exceed it with a good marketing strategy. Also I encourage all fans to dig deep and donate what you can to USAW's Live the Dream Fund. It is a great program that gets $ directly to the hands of our well deserving athletes. After our amazing performance in Tokyo they will need all the donations they can get.
  24. 1 point
    I like Spencer but he wouldn't qualify for the Olympics in judo. The lightest weight in men's judo is 60kg, which is 3kg more than his MFS weight class. There is also no leg grabbing and the mat work is different. IMO, he wouldn't be competitive against the #1 American at 60kg who didn't qualify for the 2021 Olympics.
  25. 1 point
    WresFan89

    Penn State's secret sauce

    Sorry, didn’t mean to quote you. Was meant more towards the one saying it’s about Pennsylvania/ Mid-Atlantic talent.
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    A lot of countries do though. For various reasons I'm eligible for citizenship in 4 other countries besides the US. I've been to a few other places and while different, they're not bad places. No worse than places I've been to in the US anyway.
  27. 1 point
    bman546

    Greco Roman Fix

    You forgot Adam Coon. Lowney wrestled at MN 4 years but did not compete in what would have been his last year of eligibility. Hall had one redshirt freshmen year at WI). But the point of my post was, in the past 30 years of wrestling, the USA has only had 17 individuals win medals. And 6 of those competed in the upper two weight classes (which doesn't really feature leg attacks). The USA will not be able to compete with the rest of the World (the years where we have multiple medalists or win the World Championships are anomalies). because culturally we do not assimilate to Greco being our one style as an athlete until much later in life. And the years of multiple medalists and Team World Championships are over, unless the needed change occurs. The rest of the world has upped their game with regards to conditioning, and being able to transition from technique to a brawl utilizing technique if necessary.
  28. 1 point
    lu1979

    Gable Steveson- Fork in the road

    You like me have no idea of how much JB has been making from endorsements, coaching, appearances etc. If I were to take a WAG at it as you just did I would expect that it would fall between 1/2 million to 1 million per year. Now what we do know that Gable made this year from the Live the Dream fund is $250 K. He can add another $50 K to that if he goes to Oslo in 2 months and wins. (I have no idea why all the people on here are saying there is no incentive for him to go Oslo and win a World Gold - I think he will). I expect a young marketable guy like Gable could make from $500k to a little more per year in endorsement deals if he continues to be the best in the world at wrestling. He will get $50K for each World title he wins and at least $250 K for winning the Olympic title in Paris in 3 years. I said at least because in 2016 USAW had said that a repeat title for JB was going to get hin $500K. I don't know if they are still promising that. In Paris there are 3 people that could collect that incentive if it's still there. Anyway my main point is that success in real wrestling is FAR MORE in Gable's control than success in WWE would be. He will be able to make a pretty good living and the better he does the easier it will be to transition to the fake wrestling at a later date if he tires of real competition. Also I encourage all fans to dig deep and donate what you can to USAW's Live the Dream Fund. It is a great program that gets $ directly to the hands of our well deserving athletes. After our amazing performance in Tokyo they will need all the donations they can get.
  29. 1 point
    LJB

    Greco Roman Fix

    i watched Coach Mohhamed show a gut at a schoolboy practice about 3 years ago... the subtleties he was showing mostly went over my head and i am sure it did to most of the wrestlers as well, but... even i could see very easily why we are behind... it is a different level of technique that i can only assume kids in greco countries are being taught when they are 10... taught the right way from the beginning because those kids are not concerned about competition until it starts to matter... whereas our kids are being taught **** that will beat other 10 year old kids at northern regionals... then they have to relearn all that weak stuff once they think they are ready for world competition... i also watched Coach Ahad run a practice about 7 years ago... it was crazy refreshing and changed my views about all sorts of things... it is not that we do not have access to great coaches... it is a cultural thing... and until our culture changes to accept that destroying your body in the hopes of getting books paid for at some XYZ college is not the only path forward we will continue to struggle at the best style...
  30. 1 point
    How about a Bobby Douglas page?
  31. 1 point
    wrestfan

    Iran Wrestling News

    This is the whole show, almost 2 hours, the host was stupid and had no idea about wrestling, and that so-called wrestling expert later came online and ask some questions also talked nonsense. for whatever reason most wrestling journalists in Iran hate Bana (probably because he never listens to their nonsense) and try every opportunity to blame him. https://www.telewebion.com/episode/2632219 I watched it live yesterday, these are his important points as far as I remember * he praised Bana, giving him 9 out of 10. while he thanked Mohammadi and tried to defend him sometimes it was very clear that he is upset about freestyle team's performance, specially their conditioning. * he said those 4 guys mentioned earlier plus Gholam Mohammadi himself and Mohammad Hassan Mohebbi are his candidates for the freestyle head coach. but nothing is decided yet. they may even continue with Mohammadi (to me highly unlikely) * while some "experts" blame Yazdani's strategy against Taylor (our expert oldman even said Yazdani can beat Taylor without a coach lol) Dabir defended that strategy and said that was the best match of Yazdani. you should not touch Taylor's leg, that's his trap. just score pushouts, never lower your guard. and according to Dabir, Yazdani had everything under control just made two mistakes in the whole match leading to Taylor scoring two takedowns. he said Yazdani lost the match because he thought the match is done. * Dabir also blamed the past strategy of making everybody wrestles like Yazdani! he said you can't wrestle the same strategy against everybody. don't even dream about making American wrestlers gas that will never happen! * he also talked about the huge pressure on Yazdani, after his not-so-good performance in semifinal against Naifonov that Yazdani was very worried and nervous "what if I lose ..." he also said after the defeat he had stay up until 2 am talking to Yazdani, ,making him calm. * interestingly he said among all 11 freestyle and Greco wrestles they would considered Hadi Saravi as our best chance for the Olympic gold! and he is still upset about how Saravi lost the semifinal in a very cheap way. * he also said R. Geraei and Zare were extremely relaxed before their matches unlike the rest of wrestlers. Geraei was even watching bronze medal matches before going to the mat for his own final! * he said he believes the freestyle team had this potential to win 2 gold medals by Yazdani and Zare. and Zare will regret losing his semifinal when he gets older. according to Dabir, Zare was the only one "capable" of beating Steveson. he talked about all Greco guys in details, but since the host was stupid , they jumped from this to that. he didn't say anything special about Mohammadian. (I would like to know his opinion) but he said even before the tournament they knew in freestyle they have 3 realistic medal chances and didn't count much on 3 lower weights.
  32. 1 point
    lu1979

    Gable Steveson- Fork in the road

    There is one aspect of this discussion about WWE vs real wrestling that no one has mentioned. If Gable chooses to pursue a career in WWE his future will largely be in the hands of other people and his success will depend on him satisfying the demands they put on him and then hoping they promote him as he hoped for. If he decides to pursue continued greatness in real competitive wrestling his future is largely in his own hands and he has a tremendous amount of control over how it will proceed. As great as he is now (which is pretty amazing considering how he handled Taha Akgul who is one of the best ever) he has the ability to get even better. He is only 21 and has not hit his peak size or strength yet. His technique can get better especially in par terre. If he chooses to continue to wrestle his destiny is in own hands far more so than in some endeavor that depends on a somewhat shady group promoting you to a fickle fan base. Just my thoughts - I am sure Gable has many very sharp people giving him guidance and I hope that whatever path he chooses he finds great success.
  33. 1 point
    uncle bernard

    Predictions on World Team

    It would be hilarious if Zain beat Pantaleo and Green for the spot and then went 0-1 again
  34. 1 point
    Wrestleknownothing

    NLWC

    Notre Dame has never lost a football game. They just occassionally run out of time.
  35. 1 point
    LJB

    NLWC

    it seems awfully silly to make a claim that if only there was a phantom one more minute... there isn't...
  36. 1 point
    Perhaps you guys could repeat your arguments? I didn't catch them the first ten times.
  37. 1 point
    Correction: Kerkvliet did not wreatle a D1 dual right off the bat. It was Maryland.
  38. 1 point
    jackwebster

    Predictions on World Team

    Man, this stuff never goes away.
  39. 1 point
    Husker_Du

    Penn State's secret sauce

    let me solve this mystery for you. the coaching staff.
  40. 1 point
    AnklePicker

    Penn State's secret sauce

    Cael is the obvious, their secret sauce is one Casey Cunningham.
  41. 1 point
    goStanford18

    Toughest weight classes in Tokyo

    Looking at 97kg: 3 Olympic/World Champions - Sadulaev (2x Olympic champ, 4x world champ, 1x silver) - Snyder (1x Olympic champ, 2x world champ, 2x silver, 1x bronze) - Sharifov (1x Olympic champ, 1x world champ, 1x silver, 2x bronze) 7 other World/Olympic medalists - Odikadze (1x bronze) - Mohammamdian (1x bronze) - Salas (2x silver, 1x bronze) - Nurov (1x bronze) - Ibragimov (1x bronze) - Conyedo (2x bronze) - Saritov (2x bronze) That's 28 total medals with 11 Gold after Tokyo. A lot of the 97kg guys were old though, and some of their medals were from a long time ago. I don't know if 97kg was the toughest, but it was probably the most decorated and featured the #1 wrestler in Sadulaev.
  42. 1 point
    Red95

    Greco Roman Fix

    I thought for a minute that Daton had switched styles.
  43. 1 point
    headache

    The Champ is Saduleav

    With a 2-0 lead, he's gonna let Snyder come at him. He'd be an idiot to play it any other way.
  44. 1 point
    Probably around 210
  45. 1 point
    LJB

    Daughter Interested in Wrestling

    the club my boys were in as youths had a fairly large girl contingent... 10+ if i remember correctly... in youth wrestling, boys and girls used to wrestle the same divisions... there is now typically a girls division at all the major youth tourneys... what i found was up to U10ish, the girls were actually very competitive with boys and easier to coach... the girls who excel can then become competitive once again in HS when the overall level of wrestling takes a nose dive again... where are you located?
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