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  1. 4 points
    Wrestleknownothing

    Gilman

    That has to be very uncomfortable for the horse.
  2. 2 points
    CA_Wrestler

    Gilman

    Because Gilman already has 57 locked up due to his medal at the Olympics. Everybody that was a contender for 57 has to bump up to 61 for the World Team Trials if they want a chance at competing.
  3. 2 points
    Le duke

    I miss Flo!

    Their new format is terrible, and basically unusable. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
  4. 2 points
    JasonBryant

    The Decision, Gable Edition

    John Smith lost to Dan Foldesy … that loss doesn’t seem to haunt him in the discussion about all-time greats. Gable’s only two college losses are to an NCAA champion … that isn’t a hiccup in the grand scheme of things. There is also very little in the way of actual knowledge regarding the business of the WWE in this thread.
  5. 2 points
    Aviator12

    The upside case for Snyder

    I can’t believe no one else has mentioned this, at least as far as I know and have seen/read. Was I the only person who noticed Saduluev gasping for air, taking deep, labored breaths while laying on his back on the mat with his fists lying on his forehead? Not only was it labored breathing, he was grimacing like he was completely spent. Now one can say who cares how spent he is if he wins the match and has enough energy during the match to win. I get that. But this falls in line with the brutally obvious blueprint for Snyder to beat Saduluev again… the same way he did the first time. Wear him out. Cael was screaming at Kyle to get going in the 1st period, let alone the last 30 secs when the camera caught Cael up close relaying the same to Snyder. Now I’m not suggesting Snyder shoots aimlessly on arguably the best defensive wrestler in the world.. but what I am saying is Kyle needs to convince himself that he is the larger, stronger wrestler OVER AN ENTIRE 2 PERIODS. In the 3 matches I’ve watched, Kyle has shown to me he has the better tank than Saduluev. Saduluev may and can match Snyder’s strength in burst throughout the match, but I absolutely convinced that Kyle can beat Saduluev again if he Gilman’s or even better Desanto’s Saduluev for 2 full periods straight. Saduluev has mentioned Snyder’s size and strength multiple times in interviews as being tops at 97 KG he has wrestled, he actually described Snyder as the much bigger and stronger wrestler than J’Den Cox when asked to compare the two. (Which I don’t agree w at all btw). Saduluev without question has the psychological advantage with Snyder, and he even has cautioned Snyder in interviews in the past to basically slow his roll.. Snyder hypes the meeting between the 2 and Saduluev downplays them. This is important because Saduluev knows Snyder will be impatient and try to score and it plays right into his strength. Instead if trying to score on Saduluev right away, I would like to see him harass and horse Saduluev with heavy hands and snaps, look for early pushouts but the main objective being wear Saduluev down and keep the score low and close. Saduluev has shown twice now his cardio is spent at the end of the 2nd after Snyder goes on an offensive barrage. Freestyle rewards commanding the center of the mat and active forward moving hand fighting more so than offensive shots and moves altogether so this approach also plays into avoiding being put on caution clock1st period as well. So again, I’d like to see Kyle hirse Saduluev and look to score like he has and does … defensively and push outs for the first period and an half. Then with a minute and an half to go, give Saduluev the same offensive onslaught hes been given when Kyle was down and needed to score. I truly believe the key the key to beating him again. Don’t wrestle to his strength, use his size and strength to wear him down, then crush his cardio that Kyle has proven to have the better tank.
  6. 2 points
    moose41

    Freestyle Rules are Excellent

    No. Being tied promotes inaction. Nobody wants to take a risk. Folkstyle should move to criteria. Someone always losing promotes guys trying to score.
  7. 2 points
    Mike Parrish

    Predictions on World Team

    https://www.teamusa.org/USA-Wrestling/Features/2021/August/14/Mensah-Stock-and-Hildebrandt-to-compete-at-2021-Worlds Sarah Hildebrandt is going 50s. That weight won't be contested. Jacarra Winchester is going 55s. She'll get a spot on the bottom semifinal. All three spots at 55 will be up for grabs. I suspect that everyone at 50s will go 53s. Could be a rough mix for that 1 world team spot at 53s. https://www.usawmembership.com/usaw_events/2100109202?section=matrix
  8. 1 point
    Scorenomore

    I miss Flo!

    There once was a time that you could go to Flo and see breaking news and events and get insight. Flo has been great for the sport, but the competition has increased and Flo has not kept up. Now Flo just looks like a video repository and isn’t worth the effort to find anything. You can quickly find news and updates more readily available on other media. Not trying to bash Flo, but sure wish they would clean things up before the season starts because as of right now, I have no intention of renewing my membership.
  9. 1 point
    Red95

    Predictions on World Team

    Steveson out. https://www.teamusa.org/USA-Wrestling/Features/2021/August/15/Steveson-not-going-to-Worlds-so-there-are-22-weights-at-WTT
  10. 1 point
    Housebuye

    I miss Flo!

    The format is terrible. They may break news, but i can never find it on their site until after it’s posted elsewhere. Truly terrible formatting
  11. 1 point
    Housebuye

    Iran Wrestling News

    We will have to watch to find out. Amos (97Kg) Elam (92kg) O’Toole (74kg) Bartlett (65kg) Mendes (61kg) Figs (57kg) are the guys most likely to medal/win gold. This is without knowing the field at all though. The rest of the guys can medal with the right draw, and/or they are much better than I realize. Juniors is when guys breakout
  12. 1 point
    nhs67

    I miss Flo!

    Brought this up in a previous thread. What came of that when you brought it up to your higher ups @Jaroslav Hasek? Did CP just blow it off?
  13. 1 point
    bnwtwg

    The upside case for Snyder

    Russians have better technique and Americans have bigger gas tanks. Should I also let you all in on some other secrets such as beer is good, water is wet, and the sky is blue?
  14. 1 point
    irani

    Iran Wrestling News

    I think this is what we all agree with: At his best, he is amazing, and a favorite to win the silver with an outside shot at gold. His performance at the Olympics was beyond disappointing. It wasn't just that he lost to an inferior opponent. When he fell behind, I did not see him try to win. Compare that to Mohammad Ali Gerarie in GR, when he fell behind, he did everything in his power to win. The explanation that he was so focused on Sadulaev that he was not prepared to for his first match is a very weak argument. Even if you are not prepared, I want to see you try to fight like hell, he simply did not do that.
  15. 1 point
    Jason Moore

    Junior Workds

    Thank you for the information. Glad he will get the opportunity to see where he stacks up against some of the best in the world.
  16. 1 point
    wrestfan

    Iran Wrestling News

    Esmaeil Nejatian
  17. 1 point
    Shiraz123

    Iran Wrestling News

    As far as I can recall off memory this is Mohammadian's results since he returned: Lost to an Iranian in Iran when he first came back, forgot the guys name. Not one of the main guys in contention for the Olympic team. We talked about it in this thread, probably @wrestfan knows who it was Went to world military games - teched Baitsaev 11 - 0, but then won the finals over Hushtyn 3 -2 Went to the Alrosa tournament, lost to Sharifov (controversy or not), teched Urishev for bronze Went to Italy and had the performances he became "famous" for Wrestled in the league, almost lost to Shabani but won with a end of match takedown Wrestled in the trial for world cup, lost to Shabani twice, beat Goleij in a close match and beat Sharitnia Went to the recent Poland tournament and came first, no need to say results as it was so recent Went to the Olympics, lost to Odikadze. In my opinion he is simply an inconsistent wrestler.
  18. 1 point
    irani

    Iran Wrestling News

    I think that is oversimplifying the issue. He also looked weak against Shabani in the trials and failed to impress. He was not the same wrestler he was when he beat Snyder
  19. 1 point
    Uwwdoc

    Iran Wrestling News

    For me it was the most disappointing performance of all Iran's fs team. Actually for me worse than Yaz losing with 15s to go. I disagree with some of my friends here that he peaked early or declined significantly since the Rome tournament when he smoked Nickal and Snyder. Only a few months ago he competed at Asian Qualifiers for Olympics and in Poland in June he looked just as good (teching one of the bronze medalists at Tokyo). Anyone that was not a compatriot he destroyed in similar fashion to Rome. And it is completely understandable that teammates will have lower scoring matches. I don't think it was a physical or technical issue. By his own admission he has recently said that his mind was so preoccupied at how to wrestle Sadulaev in the next round, that he completely goofed against Georgia. In the end I believe it was a mental issue and the pressure got to him. Which is very disappointing. I also feel he shouldn't now be written off. Since his return from suspension that was his only loss against international competition. He is 28 and unless I see something better from someone else I still feel he is Iran's best at 97kg and if the draw had favoured him better we may have been talking about a silver or bronze medalist now. I hope he doesn't just disappear and can make a comeback with better mental psyche.
  20. 1 point
    Shiraz123

    Iran Wrestling News

    Yeah lol. He won cadet worlds in 2018 but had a disastrous/funny loss to Germany in 2019 juniors. To me it looks like he has good genetics/talent but poorly trained.
  21. 1 point
    The Genius

    Iran Wrestling News

    3 of our guys have drawn Americans in the first round at worlds, lets see what they're made of Is Abdollahi the kinda crazy guy that's always in high scoring matches? I remember the last time we saw him he lost by a huge score, maybe that was cadets a few years ago? I'm not sure.
  22. 1 point
    Shiraz123

    Junior Workds

    86kg guy got a bad draw. Iranian cadet world champ from 2019 and Russian wrestler (who beat the 2019 cadet world silver to make the Russian team) on his side of the bracket.
  23. 1 point
    nom

    Gilman

    Enjoyed listening to the Bashamania interview with Gilman. Seems like a great guy. His perspectives were great and seemed sincere. I may not understand / believe some of his beliefs but they all seem to come from a good place and lead to a healthy and caring mindset on his part. I hope to root for him in person in Oslo!!
  24. 1 point
    My guess is Chamizo won’t face a ton of competition making the Italian Olympic team. Qualifying the weight is a different story altogether.
  25. 1 point
    nhs67

    Gilman

    Seeding points go to wrestlers not countries
  26. 1 point
    Aviator12

    The upside case for Snyder

    Yes because my entire post centered strictly around gas tank with no other strategy suggested. Speaking of laughable… reading comprehension is our friend. And just to ask for my own entertainment sake, when Kyle Snyder beat Saduluev in their first meeting….at what point of the match did Snyder beat the Russian? And a lil further, what was the reason it was won in that point of the match, rather than other parts? Did Snyder at some point become a better overall technician and tactical wrestler, or did he use and have an edge which developed that he took advantage of? Looking forward to this spin doctor masterpiece…
  27. 1 point
    Chet Hanson

    The upside case for Snyder

    This is so laughable. At this level just having a gas tank isn't enough. The Russians have incredible technique to go alongside the gas tank (PEDs also help too). I am thinking the US wrestlers need to focus more on the technical side than just being able to grind. DT is a prime example, although I am thinking now it's time for him to develop some turns on top.
  28. 1 point
    irani

    Iran Wrestling News

    Iran will medal in 92
  29. 1 point
    JasonBryant

    Continuation

    This is why I said "this is the case." It was blown early, but the first thought, as I was told, was they thought both feet were out. I didn't ask that specific match official, rather tried to get an understanding from another who was nearby. As I left Tokyo, I was told "it was blown too early," which was a mistake.
  30. 1 point
  31. 1 point
    Mike Parrish

    Clowney flakes out again

    My favorite part of this clown show of his is where he opened his cakehole and maligned the women, all of whom had international medals (and now Olympic medals) where he has won nothing.
  32. 1 point
    IronChef

    The Decision, Gable Edition

    He's a great athlete but I have a lot of trouble believing that he has much of a shot in the NFL since he has no football experience and might be the shortest lineman (offense or defense) in the entire league. I think the MMA route is likely to be more successful, assuming he can adjust and pick up the fighting skills. Or, and here's a crazy idea, stick with wrestling through 2024. Get a good agent, do some endorsements, and make a bunch of money on camps and clinics. He's only 21. He shouldn't be in a hurry to give up the one thing he's best at.
  33. 1 point
    Katie

    Collegiate world & Olympic champs

    We all know the list of the four 4x NCAA champs. Somewhat less known, however, is the list of college wrestlers who won world or Olympic titles in the same calendar year as an NCAA title. As far as I know, only seven athletes have accomplished this feat: Uetake, Kemp, Smith, Neal, Burroughs, Snyder, and Steveson. Here's the list: 1) Uetake Sophomore -- 1964 Olympic Champ 2) Kemp Senior -- 1978 World Champ 3) Smith Junior -- 1987 World Champ Senior -- 1988 Olympic Champ 4) Neal Senior -- 1999 World Champ 5) Burroughs Senior -- 2011 World Champ 6) Snyder Junior -- 2016 Olympic Champ Senior -- 2017 World Champ 7) Steveson Junior -- 2020 Olympic Champ Uetake did not compete at worlds after his junior and senior seasons, but he went on the win Olympic gold again in 1968, two years after graduating. In 2015, Snyder was an NCAA runner up and world champ. Has any other college athlete won a world title in the same year he did not win an NCAA title? Finally, Neal holds the distinction of being awarded the FILA Outstanding Wrestler Award as the best wrestler in the world in 1999. That was a pretty remarkable year for him: NCAA champ, Hodge, world champ, FILA Outstanding Wrestler. Edits: Added Lee Kemp to the list & removed Snyder’s freshman year where he was an NCAA runner up
  34. 1 point
    JasonBryant

    Clowney flakes out again

    This I can confirm.
  35. 1 point
    Seems like its like pitching perfect games in the Division series, LCS, and 2 games of the World Series
  36. 1 point
    Class

    Clowney flakes out again

    Blue Dragons told me that by December 31st PD3 would be UFC champ. I am starting to get concerned that the timeline is in jeopardy.
  37. 1 point
    olddirty

    Toughest weight classes in Tokyo

    97 is probably the toughest to win, easiest to medal in. 65 is the hardest to even get a win in.
  38. 1 point
    TFBJR

    The Champ is Saduleav

    I am not an atheist and I did not take anything you said as derogatory / denigrating. Possibly not artfully worded for the religious folks, but art is in the eye .... Crash, on the other hand, is a special kid of stupid
  39. 1 point
    I expect that JB has been doing pretty well between a) endorsement $s, b) appearance fees, c) coaching and RTC income and d) tournament winnings. The only item of those listed that is at least partially known publicly is how much JB has made off of USAW's Living the Dream Fund. He has received $15 K in 2018 & 19 as well as 2014. He got $ 50 K in 2017, 2015, 2013 & 2011. He got $250 K in 2012. Besides those payouts he was probably paid pretty well for his matches with DT and Zahid recently. I expect that JB has been doing very well over the last 10 years and has been making a decent living. I would be surprised if his yearly income did not exceed 500 K and $ 1Million per year would not shock me. I would not be at all surprised if his new gig at the Penn RTC came with a 6 figure income. I think Gable could replicate that and perhaps exceed it with a good marketing strategy. Also I encourage all fans to dig deep and donate what you can to USAW's Live the Dream Fund. It is a great program that gets $ directly to the hands of our well deserving athletes. After our amazing performance in Tokyo they will need all the donations they can get.
  40. 1 point
    I like Spencer but he wouldn't qualify for the Olympics in judo. The lightest weight in men's judo is 60kg, which is 3kg more than his MFS weight class. There is also no leg grabbing and the mat work is different. IMO, he wouldn't be competitive against the #1 American at 60kg who didn't qualify for the 2021 Olympics.
  41. 1 point
    TBar1977

    The upside case for Snyder

    Snyder got the only 2 point TD in the match. The next go around he should just never shoot those low singles where he ends up giving up the chest wrap exposure. That alone can make the match competitive.
  42. 1 point
    goStanford18

    Toughest weight classes in Tokyo

    Looking at 97kg: 3 Olympic/World Champions - Sadulaev (2x Olympic champ, 4x world champ, 1x silver) - Snyder (1x Olympic champ, 2x world champ, 2x silver, 1x bronze) - Sharifov (1x Olympic champ, 1x world champ, 1x silver, 2x bronze) 7 other World/Olympic medalists - Odikadze (1x bronze) - Mohammamdian (1x bronze) - Salas (2x silver, 1x bronze) - Nurov (1x bronze) - Ibragimov (1x bronze) - Conyedo (2x bronze) - Saritov (2x bronze) That's 28 total medals with 11 Gold after Tokyo. A lot of the 97kg guys were old though, and some of their medals were from a long time ago. I don't know if 97kg was the toughest, but it was probably the most decorated and featured the #1 wrestler in Sadulaev.
  43. 1 point
    Those are some crazy stats. Yui might be the best woman in the sport right now. Thanks for sharing!
  44. 1 point
    bnwtwg

    The upside case for Snyder

    Snyder figured out the way to beat Sadulaev - he has to convert hi-c’s. Easier said than done but that is the way… it’s also the way to get teched off the mat by the current P4P champ so don’t listen to me. But yeah step one of unlocking Sad’s defense was exposed. Hopefully they meet up in Oslo.
  45. 1 point
    It was pretty amazing to watch. Let's also consider this: In 7 World championships(3 cadet, 2 junior 2 senior) and 1 Olympics, she has outscored her opponents: 331-6
  46. 1 point
    Lurker

    Freestyle Rules are Excellent

    They don’t look like scores if you’re looking at it through folkstyle glasses. If you’re looking at it through the same glasses as the rest of the world, that was two big mistakes by Snyder that the best wrestler in the world took advantage of.
  47. 1 point
    D3 for LU

    Freestyle Rules are Excellent

    Freestyle is NOT folkstyle... you certainly are welcome for your opinion. Folkstyle will emphasize control... FS w/exposure. Can't give up exposure while trying for control. Divide those two styles while you're watching on TV... and avoid the heartburn. (... or, have Tums available, while you watch... ) D3
  48. 1 point
    Lurker

    The Decision, Gable Edition

    I didn't say the greatest single boxer, or single MMA athlete ever. His high level accomplishments in more than one combat sport speak for themselves, and it does not matter when he started fighting, he still went on to do it. Neither were a waste of talent in any measure what so ever, no matter how disappointed anyone is in what they chose to go after. But carry on...
  49. 1 point
    Lurker

    The Decision, Gable Edition

    Cejudo went on to become arguably the greatest combat sports athlete ever. Cael went on to building a resume that will put him as one of the greatest coaches ever (not just with NCAA titles, but look at what NLWC is doing at these olympics). Incredible waste of talent. I love this mentality that goes around that what someone does with their career is judged based on what complete strangers want them to do with their career.
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