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  1. 10 points
    Lurker

    Mekhi announces olympic redshirt

    Couldn't agree more. That's what usually happens when you win a world title, then an NCAA title from a 2x'er your freshman year. You lose confidence.
  2. 10 points
    In May we returned from a training trip to India. What an absolutely crazy, amazing out of the box experience! We spent the bulk of the time in Delhi however we also ventured to Agra and Jaipur. We encountered elephants a heard of wild monkeys where one of them stole a cell phone from one of our coaches leading us on a 30 minute game of cat and mouse. Our group encountered homeless orphans as young as 8 years old living on the streets and some of the most extreme poverty imaginable. I've taken groups all over Europe for wrestling but the Kushti wrestling experience was like nothing we've ever experienced. Virtually all wrestlers in India start their wrestling career in the mud/dirt pits. It's an ancient style of wrestling that goes back over a hundred year (some locals say the style has been around for thousands). We were there in May and the temperature was over 100 degrees. The first Kushti club we visited was a very traditional club. Unless you were wearing the uniform, you were not allowed to go near the Akhara (or competition area). We arrived around 4:30 PM for their evening session. They pretty much follow the same training schedule every day. Wrestlers live at the club, sometimes as many as a dozen staying in a room that fits maybe one queen size bed and little more. On that day, like all others, their wrestlers got up at 3:00 AM and trained. They did squats, these press-up things that are a common exercise there and they also run, climb ropes and use homemade weights. It's not uncommon to do thousands of exercises each morning and run several miles. A few hours later they start their morning wrestling session. The Guru watches the training/live matches and the largest/most experienced wrestlers start first while the others wait for their turn. The matches can go on for 30 minutes until one of the wrestler's quits or the Guru tells them to quit. By mid morning they rest, give each other massages and take naps until the afternoon session. Wrestling Kushti in India can be very rewarding. The better wrestlers can win enough money to make a nice living for themselves. India is still very much separated by the class system. Kushti is one of the few things that makes them all equal whether you are rich or poor. Unlike most countries where our wrestlers want to lose weight to compete, in India the goal is always to get bigger and stronger. Wrestling Kushti is treated like a religion. A traditional Kushti wrestler will follow his training schedule with precision, will eat a very specific diet and they abstain from all worldly pleasures including alcohol, dating/sexual relationships. Their only focus is training/competing. Their tournaments can draw thousands of spectators. At every Kushti club you'll find statues of their god Hanuman. You'll see wrestlers praying and giving offerings to Hanuman before competing. Even the competition area is blessed prior to the wrestlers start wrestling, all under the watchful eye of the Guru, making sure everything is done as it should be. Wrestlers don't do anything without the Guru's approval. He makes decisions on who can enter the club, who competes, how long the wrestling continues and more. When we arrived are wrestlers were taught how to put on the proper Kushti uniform. I called it a loin cloth but the proper name was kowpeenam. Coaches were only allowed near the pit if they were bare foot. To walk near the area with your shoes it was considered extremely disrespectful. We watched as the dirt pit was carefully prepared for the session. Selected wrestlers carefully prepare the area while all the other wrestlers quietly watch their progress. After it was blessed wrestlers were picked to wrestle and they started out with the largest/oldest wrestlers first. The technique was absolutely crazy. There is little rules in Kushti. The key to winning is a touch pin. Anything pretty much goes. Grabbing the kowpeenam was OK and actually a major part of their technique. Blood and sweat is handled by your opponent throwing dirt on you to help maintain better grips. It's hard to describe the entire experience but it was absolutely an amazing opportunity for our wrestlers. Here's a few pictures of our experience. I look forward to returning in 2020!
  3. 9 points
    HokieHWT

    Mekhi announces olympic redshirt

    He’s earned the right to redshirt. This is an individual sport.
  4. 8 points
    DFino

    Touch of Grey

    I must be getting gassed out early, match is running late This ref's calls all day, they look so phony Stamina's breaking everywhere, get the cold spray over here Put me down in par terre, I don't care 'cause it's alright I will get by I will get by I will get by I will survive I see Angle's got his offense out, see me get to edge of the mat and get out Guess I get another passivity call out of it, but it's alright Sorry that the crowd doesn't like it that way, the only thing there is to say Every silver medal's got a touch of grey I will get by I will get by I will get by I will survive It's a lesson to me The Atlanta home crowd wants to see The Angle victory in this place Try to keep a little grace *Heroic Guitar Solo* It's a lesson to me The crowd doesn't like me The overtime decision we all think of Will show me no love I know I got taken to my rear, he'll never turn the corner in years I'm even more exhausted than it appears, but it's alright Crowd is in complete frenzy, I've been hearing it since seventeen The words they scream are all obscene, but it's alright I will get by I will get by I will get by I will survive The leg lace should've been 2 since both hands didn't hit, there's really nothing much to it The man with the mustache won't get the decision today, 'cause it's alright Oh well, a silver medal kinda suits an anti-hero anyway And that was all I had to say and it's alright...
  5. 8 points
    Housebuye

    Junior Worlds

    Russia up 90 to 70 going into the semis today. Only 1 head to head in next session (Hidlay). This is a must win as it is +10 for USA and caps Russia at only 5 more point at the weight. Russia still has 2 finalists (10 potential points), 3 going for bronze (15 potential points), 2 maybe in repachage (30 potential points) and 2 in semis (30 potential points) for a total of 85 points up for grabs. 1 guy is eliminated. USA has 1 finalist (5 potential points) and 5 in semis (75 potential points), so 80 up for grabs. 4 guys are eliminated. If Hidlay wins his semi vs Russia, that means: USA will be down by 10 (instead of 20) and be able to score an additional 65 points. Russia will be up by 10 (instead of 20) and will be able to score an additional 75 points. If USA sweeps the semis and Russia loses both semis: USA will be beating Russia 120-90 USA will be able to score an additional 30 points Russia will be able to score an additional 65 points If USA sweeps the semis and Russia only loses the Hidlay match, that means: USA will be beating Russia 120-100 USA will be able to score an additional 30 points Russia will be able to score an additional 65 points Summary USA essentially has to sweep the semis to have a chance at winning. The most important match is Hidlay vs Russia. We also are heavily relying on Germany to take out Russia in the semis at 92 (would reduce Russia's point potential by 10) Iran to beat Russia at 125 (would reduce Russia' point potential by 10) Most importantly, outside of the US winning their matches,, the US needs AZE to beat UKR at 61 KG (would reduce Russia's point potential by 15) This is just a review of USA vs Russia. Iran is still in the race, but with a a few wins (with the right combination) in the semis, USA will lock up 2nd place at a minimum. If the USA does sweep the semis, it will by far be our best performance at junior worlds ever. We've never had 6 finalists. It would also be weird to have nobody even wrestling for bronze, but 6 wrestling for gold. on top of that, the most credentialed American (brooks) would not be one of the medalists. Realistically, the US is a heavy underdog, but in play. A top 2 finish after yesterday's performance would be a major win in my opinion.
  6. 8 points
    irani

    Junior Worlds

    I would like to respectfully suggest that those interested in discussing paying or not paying for a subscription start a new thread, and keep this thread focused on the worlds junior championship.
  7. 7 points
    jammen

    The Piccininni

    That would be the Lee:
  8. 7 points
    headshuck

    86kg 2020

    Even with Tayler healthy it’s Cox’s to lose. Cox won with one leg, covered in crisco and had chairs being tossed at him last time.
  9. 6 points
    Lurker

    Junior Worlds

    I don't get this baby weight stuff. Are there less teenagers at 110 lbs. Of course. There are also less adults at 125lbs. Just as much a world champ as anyone else.
  10. 6 points
    VakAttack

    Fix should have been on the backside

    I'm pretty sure the ref was counting for NF. Personally, i think that would have been a bit quick to call a neutral pin. I think technically, by the rules, sure he was likely pinned, but that situation happens all the time and is never called. It's not like he was on his back for 5 seconds. He kind of pulled himself and Erneste there, felt Erneste grab his head, and he immediately bailed.
  11. 6 points
    Savage74

    Yianni/Zain Ruling

    I have enjoyed reading this forum for years but never actually posted. Here is my take, and I am a huge fan of both wrestlers: The issue is not that the final score is incorrect or that the procedure that would have occurred the right way did not ultimately end up happening. The issue comes down to timing. The officials did not seem to think a conference was required. There was not a lot of time to see that though because the challenge from Penn State came immediately at the final whistle. Perhaps they would have consulted. I did not hear Penn State, or anyone else, say anything about the officials not agreeing, just that they believed it was scored wrong. The rules state that the Mat Chairman must side with the referee or judge. Does this mean he can't side with both? I would think the answer is no but it is not actually clear. The biggest issue is the timing of the challenge. The rules clearly indicate that the challenge must happen within 5 seconds of the score being posted and cannot be challenged after the final whistle unless the score is posted after the final whistle or the action occurs just before the final whistle. This is the crucial part. Once a challenge is requested they must stop the match once the action is neutral. It does not say the challenge is to wait until the action stops, the officials are supposed to stop the action once they are neutral. If Penn State wanted to challenge, they should have done so sooner and the action would have been stopped since the wrestlers were in neutral. This would have allowed the score to be corrected and the wrestlers would have known what the score was during the final 30-40 seconds of the match. The only reason they did not challenge sooner was because they thought Zain had a chance to score and didn't want to stop the action. This is why it must happen within 5 seconds. It is not fair to Yianni to believe he is winning the whole time and then a challenge that occurs against the clearly written rules (later than 5 seconds AND after the final whistle) changes something that happened almost a minute prior and he loses the match that he wrestled from a winning perspective for the last minute. I have seen it posted that the 5 second rule is more of a guideline. I can accept that to a certain degree but I don't think it means 45 seconds is OK. Especially the last 45 seconds and after the final whistle. In the end, we can argue who should have received the points. that can always be a debate. However, what cannot be argued is that the challenge was granted outside the rules that are clearly written. If I were the arbitrator, I would read the rules and then watch the procedure. I would see that the challenge happened after, not one, but two clearly defined deadlines. Later than 5 seconds and after the final whistle. Right then and there, the ruling should be in Yianni's favor. With that said, I don't think it will go in Yianni's favor. I do think it will open up the rule book to more interpretation though. If these rules are just guidelines, what else is just a guideline?? We complain about the rules not being easy and too much interpretation but then we claim that some of the rules are guidelines and not really rules. Tough to have it both ways. If 5 seconds is too little time, change the rule don't just make it up as you go. If Zain loses the arbitration, he has no one to blame but his coaches for trying to game the system and not challenge right away. Last thing, I feel bad for Zain. He dominated the first match. I think they ultimately got the score right in the 2nd match and I find it unlikely that Yianni would have been able to score on Zain in 30 seconds to win. It should have been a clear cut victory. BUT, his coaches did not follow the rules because they wanted to see if it would matter and it cost Zain some of the public opinion and quite possibly the match/world team.
  12. 6 points
    nom

    Iran Wrestling News

    Just want to say thanks to the folks writing on this thread. I enjoy reading about the Iranian wrestlers and the perspectives being shared. I know Iranian wrestling fans are legendary in a very positive way and I highly respect the wrestlers. It is great to have a window into this community.
  13. 6 points
    Iran despises America even more than they do Israel, but does not have a problem competing against our athletes. We are actively against their government and imposing sanctions. They are fighting a proxy war with the Saudis in Yemen, but still will compete against them. China runs an apartheid state and is imprisoning millions of Uyghurs, yet Iran will compete against them. The distinction is that Israel is a Jewish state. Iran isn't some great champion for human rights-that claim is an absolute joke (do LGBT individuals and women enjoy equal rights in Iran?). Politics should be kept separate from athletics, and UWW cannot ignore blatant antisemitism.
  14. 6 points
    dps831

    Zaurbek Sidakov Slide-By Study

    For those interested in film study, here is a video I created analyzing 2018 World Champ Zaurbek Sidakov's Slide-By technique:
  15. 5 points
    gimpeltf

    Junior Worlds

    ???
  16. 5 points
    A few thoughts about elite foreign wrestlers training here. If an elite foreign wrestler isn't breaking any laws, it's nobody's business where he trains. An elite foreign wrestler is going to scout US rivals no matter where he trains -- whether it's Havana, Vancouver, or Makhachkala. When an elite foreign wrestler trains here, he improves himself while simultaneously improving American wrestlers' and coaches' understanding of the sport. When an elite foreign wrestler trains abroad, he improves himself while simultaneously improving foreign wrestlers and coaches. Personally, I cannot understand the desire to interfere in someone's life when that person causes no injury to anyone.
  17. 5 points
    As much time as they can afford. Cross cultural training whether them coming here or one of our athletes going there is always a good idea.
  18. 5 points
    I don't think "to hard to explain" is the issue. I think it is edicate and out of respect for Eierman. Which is the professional thin to do. It would be disrespectful to put out a release that says..... "Zain pulled out of Pan Ams and Yianni decline for x,y,z reasons. Therefore, USA areached out to Molinaro who also declined due to weight issues. Oliver, who was next also could not make weight on short notice and was also displaying a form of protest for his training partner (tongue and cheek there). Next, USA was informed that McKenna also would not be able to compete on short notice, then went to the next guy on the list, Eirman." I don't think that kind if a release would be appropriate. Now they could say "USA wrestling would like to thank Eireman and the Missouri Tigers for always having their guys ready to compete. Despite Eirman being further down the list, USA is looking forward to an outstanding performance that replicates Missouri tiger Zach Elams Junior World's performance. Elam was called up on a moment's notice as well and was ready to go. Despite being 4th down the ladder Elam went on to claim the Junior world's gold medal. USA has the same confidence in Eireman. Thank you Mizzou for always stepping in when called upon". That would be okay to release:-). In all seriousness, I think Eireman will do fine. There is not a huge separation between the top 6. Yes Yianni and Zain are maybe a step in front but those guys mentioned above are all pretty good and can go back and forth. The Pan Ams is not the world championship. Eireman will get plenty of wins there.
  19. 5 points
    Except Yianni who competed and made weight this weekend...
  20. 5 points
    Congrats to McGowan for winning Gold at 45kg. He deserved the win.
  21. 5 points
    wildcatfan1992

    Yianni/Zain Ruling

    Throwing a chair because you are pissed and "in the moment" is NEVER understandable. It is a childish temper tantrum.
  22. 5 points
    red blades

    Yianni/Zain Ruling

    What is bad for the sport is that no one in the RAC had any idea how or why the result was reversed; even the commentators were incredulous. The decision seemed (and still seems) arbitrary and capricious. That is bad for the sport.
  23. 5 points
    jammen

    The Piccininni

    THE PICCININNI:$12.45 Chicken cutlet, melted mozzarella cheese, crispy bacon, French fries, coleslaw, topped with gravy and Russian dressing on a toasted garlic hero http://se-portdeli.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/03/the-piccininni-490x314.jpg
  24. 5 points
    KCMO2

    86kg 2020

    Cox showed his true character in gritting out that win. Taylor showed his true character on Twitter. Cox is the man in 2020.
  25. 4 points
    drag it

    Yianni/Zain Ruling

    This Yianni-Zain situation seems like a really complicated issue and I'm not sure what I think is the right result under the rules as they are, but I want to raise a bigger picture issue, which is that this is an example of why I am starting to question the use of replay in all sports. I wonder if most sports would be, on the whole, more enjoyable to watch without replay. It may be that replay doesn't add more than it takes away. There are certainly bad calls that get overturned, and those situations are improvements. But the results are often unsatisfying -- frequently the replay judges get it wrong, frequently they are unable to change calls that are probably wrong, and frequently the rules prevent them from even reviewing the worst calls. And frequently, like in this instance, replay arguably actually makes the result seem more illegitimate due to disputes over what can and can't be reviewed, which the rules don't and can't always clearly control. And of course, like any "improvement," the system can be abused (such as in wrestling when coaches use it for lung breaks instead of legit challenges). Furthermore, I wonder if it is making the live officials worse because they have the replay in the back of their minds (for instance, I saw a baseball game recently where the first base umpire made a delayed and half hearted call on an important game ending play where I thought he was influenced by his knowledge that replay would sort it out). Worst of all are the long delays in live action. This is bad in all sports. It's particularly bad in wrestling, where one of the best selling points for a spectator is the continuous action, which is exciting and which also puts a premium on the athletes' conditioning and focus. I think that the delays aren't worth it unless replay brings substantial clarity and legitimacy to the results, which my gut tells me it hasn't in most sports on the whole. For instance, the delays in the 133 and 141 championship matches at NCAAs did not produce good, clear results, to say nothing of the earlier dual meet fiasco involving the 133 finalists. I won't go on about all the unsatisfying examples of replay failing to resolve tough situations in wrestling and other sports (honk if you know what a "football move" is on a disputed catch). Obviously this is a difficult question and there are athletes who have won games and matches where a call was properly overturned who would not have gotten victories they earned without replay, so I can't say that I'm sure about my position. But, again, I think you have to ask yourself if replay adds more to the experience of watching live sports than it takes away. I think that it might not.
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