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  1. 6 points
    In 1966, a high school sophomore named Siddidi Finch, an adopted Iranian-born foster child from Oak Park, Illinois, whose parents died in a plane crash near Nepal, entered the Tbilisi tournament in Georgia and won... defeating 5-time world champ Ali Aliyev. He was denied the championship' however, when it was discovered he did not meet the minimum age requirement of 18 years. He never wrestled in high school folk style matches and only pursued freestyle. The majority of his training during his teen years occurred in Japan, where he was coached by the father of Yojiro Uetake Obata, and accompanied the elder Uetake on many trips to Tibet to learn yogic mastery of mind-body under the great poet-saint Lama Milaraspa. The elder Uetake when asked about the wrestling skills of the teenage Finch, stated: "Siddidi has taught my son, Yojiro, many skills." He did however, after graduating high school, walk on at Portland State university, where he twice defeated Rick Sanders in wrestle offs, but was denied a starting spot in the line up because of "academic performance"... The truth is, Finch rarely attended classes, other than to take exams, and in fact his GPA was a 4.0, but the University staff frowned on his absences from the classroom. After the debacle at Portland State, Finch decided not to pursue a wrestling career, instead choosing to play the French horn or golf or something. What if.... Imagine how great he would have been. Below is the only known photo of Finch, sparring with Yojo, taken by his father:
  2. 4 points
    mistydawn

    Spencer Lee Wins Hodge Trophy

    Mokomo - Lee beat Glory in two matches 30-6 and would have technical falled DeAugustino in the first period--I'm not a betting person, but I would go all in on predicting that tech fall--okay if I'm betting I would take the second period or earlier expecting it to happen in the first. DeAugustino had a good season and is a good wrestler, but he lost to Prata, (Lee pinned Prata in the first and it was quick), Schroeder beat DeAugustino 11-2, Schroeder turned DeAugustino with a tilt....(Lee beat Schroader 34-2 this year in two matches), as an example. You're trying really hard to down grade the kids accomplishments. It's really comical, but also noteworthy how hard you're trying. Iowa doesn't wrestle Division III schools to open the season anymore either that assuredly padded the stats in the past for some of their guys. This can go back and forth...season to season, competitor by competitor, why can't you just say, congratulations? Are you related to someone that he beat on in the past? The voters had him something like 53 of 56 votes for the best or the second best margin of victory ever. The fans had him ahead by 8,000 votes--I guess you simply feel that your right and the majority of everyone else is wrong. Could be the case or maybe you have an ax to grind. I think it's probably the latter:-). Take an Advil or two or three, relax, history has been made and he was selected and no one is taking it back--try to let it go, all of this stress is bad for your health:-).
  3. 3 points
    https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.centredaily.com/sports/college/penn-state-university/psu-wrestling/article241643376.html Would have been fun to watch him lace it up one more time, but I understand. Even watching Lee destroy him he was likely to be a higher seed than he was at last OTT, in which he came from the 9 seed to win it all! Good luck Frank in your future endeavors!
  4. 2 points
    Yes, but Assprin works better.
  5. 2 points
    Great article. On a related note, I recently discovered an old 8mm film from the 1940s of Lama Milaraspa teaching a technique similar to the Granby roll series. He covers many advanced moves that have been lost through the years. I've taught these to a few of my middle school wrestlers and they're now beating the high school starters, which includes several state-placers. I've decided to convert the film to DVD and plan on marketing it as a service to the wrestling community. I'll only be charging enough to cover my production costs. Since I only plan to produce a limited run, I'll be offering forum readers an opportunity to reserve a copy for a minimal fee. Watch this space for additional information.
  6. 2 points
    cjc007

    Penn State

    Penn State will be defending their B1G 4th place finish. Maybe they can hold off Illinois next season for that covered 4th place finish. Sent from my moto z3 using Tapatalk
  7. 1 point
    I agree. If I had to guess I'd say July at the earliest would be when we might see some sporting events in the US (even if no fans). But there's a long time between July and the end of the year where even if it doesn't happen then, I think there's a good chance it could happen in October or something like that. Obviously that can change. 50/50 was the lowest chance any of the AD's said. 49% of them thought there wan an 80% chance or greater of playing in 2020.
  8. 1 point
    **** sorry. Wasnt even thinking about Oregon State. Was thinking OkSU. What a dumb **** I am. Thanks.
  9. 1 point
    Wheeler went to Northern Michigan, so he wasn’t an AA.
  10. 1 point
    TripNSweep

    Advice for new HS program

    I would say that if you're starting from scratch, don't wrestle varsity year one. Get them as much experience on the frosh and JV level as you can, whatever the maximum number of matches you can get them, and maybe mix in some weaker varsity teams for a couple of duals. Get them used to competing first and feeling confident while building their skills up. Because if you go varsity in year one, odds are you're going to get beaten a lot and in the long run it won't help you recruiting wise.
  11. 1 point
    JohnnyThompsonnum1

    NCAAs AA picks

    The deaths of Stovepipe aka Alan Brown & Jay Hammond my two favorite posters on this board really took the spirit out of me. Alan was a friend of mine that read my work & helped me with it. I took his death pretty hard & themat has never been the same for me since. Johnnythompsonnum1.blogspot.com is where I do all of my writing on amateur wrestling now.
  12. 1 point
    Here is a short article that was posted on Oregonlive. https://www.oregonlive.com/beavers/2020/04/coronavirus-outbreak-has-oregon-state-wrestling-coach-chris-pendleton-waiting-for-his-campus-debut-and-a-job-he-says-is-big.html
  13. 1 point
    This particular one from Terry Steiner, although five years or so old, was amazing. I didn't even know of him before, but I've watched the last 17 minutes at least twice, because I had my wife watch it with me as well. A lot of things I never really considered. I'm big on records and how many matches (heck, a few of my posts are more or less about that very thing), yet he puts it in a different perspective for me.
  14. 1 point
    AKHUNTER

    Spencer Lee Wins Hodge Trophy

    I think it's just as likely SL wrestles him differently and the gap is significantly more.
  15. 1 point
    What about fairness to the next generation of wrestlers. If you add eligibility what happens to the commit who ends up riding the bench an extra year. We lost a year fellows, we can’t get it back cleanly. Something’s gotta give.
  16. 1 point
    Plasmodium

    NCAA Finals

    He 100% dropped, grabbed both of Wilps' hands, pulled them together and looked to the ref for a point.
  17. 1 point
    Agreed. Which is why you have an individual championship. And a team championship. One event only crowns individual honors and one event only crowns team honors. You don’t try some convoluted system where they try to accomplish both.
  18. 1 point
    No. Kentucky’s chances of qualifying for the tournament are diminished by that loss. They need to make up for it. That team result has real implications on their qualification. Can you tell me another sport that holds head to head -one versus one- team competitions during the season while keeping track of the wins and losses for those events where a team could finish the year winless in those contests and also be crowned National Champions? It is impossible in every sport other than wrestling.
  19. 1 point
    You don’t think duals are a good measure of teams head to head. Okay, then why do we even have them? They are expensive as the require a lot of travel for few matches. They are taxing on athletes as they require weight cuts for only one match. And they have zero impact on the season as their results don’t have anything to go with awarding championships. Why do we even have them? Could it be because they are so popular? Why are they so popular? Why do duals get better attendance than tournaments that feature many more teams and many more top athletes?
  20. 1 point
    Myopic narcissist > presbyopic sourpuss.
  21. 1 point
    StallWarning

    Spencer Lee Wins Hodge Trophy

    Do people really have a problem with Spencer Lee winning? This was a pretty easy choice.
  22. 1 point
    Someone reliable, whose been around a long time and has credibility, talked me into this version....I like it. Again, there's always room for arguments. Fadz mtrushmore2-copy by fadzaev6, on Flickr
  23. 1 point
    I'm totally bummed about the tournament as a fan. If it was my son I would encourage him to be sad for a set period of time - maybe a week, and then suck it up. Never look back. Be grateful for what you had - 5 years of top flight education and the joy of competing - all at zero or almost no expense for the seniors who were going to do well at the tourney. This is real life. It isn't fair, but it can be pretty damn good. My 2 cents.
  24. 1 point
    For the record, Snyder is our Olympic 97kg entry. Cox is good, but I don't think good enough. Now, if he bulks up and is able to horse Snyder around, he would have a better chance. But as it stands now, Snder goes, Cox stays. And I like Cox plenty! I am just sad that the IOC in the stupidity has done this to wrestling. 6 weights? That's a crime really. mspart
  25. 1 point
    MizzouGrad

    #Tigerstyle The Future

    A big reason Coach Smith hosts an annual dual in KC or St. Louis is partially about rewarding a senior and also recruiting. If you look where these duals have taken place, they almost always have a couple studs on the team that Coach Smith is pursuing. Two years ago, they had a KC dual at Park Hill High School which was John Erneste's alma mater and was home to Ethen and Kal Miller - two big recruits for the 2021 and 2022 classes.
  26. 1 point
    smsu150

    #Tigerstyle The Future

    It would be akin to the way Iowa used to start their season each year with the Iowa duals. I think an "ALL-MISSOURI" tournament would be a success. Wrestle on the opening weekend, then you don't schedule lower division schools the remainder of the season. As far as the Big 10 schools, I know Coach Smith has tried to schedule Iowa amoungst others, but with the exception of Illinois most of the Big 10 schools aren't interested in a dual with MU. MU has attracted large crowds when they have "barnstormed" or wrestled duals in St. Louis or Kansas City. What if they went to Springfield? My guess is another large crowd.
  27. 1 point
    VakAttack

    #Tigerstyle The Future

    I don't know enough about Mizzou to comment on the accuracy of any of this, but I appreciate the hard work and thought that went into the analysis. Good job!
  28. 1 point
    MizzouGrad

    #Tigerstyle The Future

  29. 1 point
    mlbruem

    #Tigerstyle The Future

    This would attract a lot of relatives and friends of the other schools but would be completely boring for Mizzou fans. We have wrestled duals vs these schools with the scores normally a lot to zero. Would rather see Mizzou choose up teams off the roster than see these duals.
  30. 1 point
    VakAttack

    Spencer Lee Wins Hodge Trophy

    Patently false. 197 was definitely weaker, as outlined by the good uncle, and so was 184 with Zahid gone. Picc/Mueller/Glory/Lee is a better top 4 than many weights.
  31. 1 point
    uncle bernard

    Spencer Lee Wins Hodge Trophy

    "Spencer Lee is so utterly dominant that it bores me, and therefore I think the award for the most dominant wrestler should go to someone else." All this says is that you either don't watch much Spencer Lee or you don't understand what you're watching. Spencer hits his tilts because nobody can stop them. However, he could also take just about all of these guys down at will. Look at the second Medley and Schroder matches. Go watch his US Open run. He scores mostly on takedowns and hits a wide variety of them. If somebody could stop his bread and butter at the college level, you'd see that more often, but he's so incredibly dominant that you don't. Spencer could have been 18-0 with 18 first period pins and people would still argue that Moore should win because Spencer missed 3 matches even though Moore wrestled at the weakest weight in the country and didn't even hit any of the top guys anyway, while still being far less dominant. To argue that Moore deserved the award is to de-legitimatizes the award itself because the entire argument rests on him not missing matches and being a senior, not that he was the more dominant wrestler.
  32. 1 point
    Part of the NCAAs announcement was that every time there's a 100-year pandemic, there will be a dual team champion.
  33. 1 point
    Soooo.... Just to make sure that I understand you. You think that Anthony (who I am a big fan of and a wrestler from my Alma Matter) would beat Spencer Lee 9-2. The same Anthony that beat Jarrod Patterson 9 - 3 and Ben Kjar 4 - 2 at the NCAA's, the year he won. Interesting is all I have to say, you must just be bored and out for a night trolling.
  34. 1 point
    Alwayswrestling

    Spencer Lee Wins Hodge Trophy

    Congratulations to Lee a great and well deserved honor.
  35. 1 point
    Little Rock is like Austin... it's a weird oasis that goes against the rest of the state and was a heck of a surprise the first time I went. Downright fantastic food that isn't just fried crap, plenty of active lifestyle options, decent night scene compared to contemporaries like Omaha etc., and active local government leadership. Fun bonus - the mayor of LR actually shut down the city 4 days after NYC and 1 day before Chicago.
  36. 1 point
    Perry

    Spencer Lee Wins Hodge Trophy

    Probably not but they also didn't have 4 point nearfall to work with
  37. 1 point
    So, (A), Kyle is just not big enough to be a World beater at Heavyweight. (B), I am pretty tired of everyone writing Kyle off, while I do believe that J’den has improved immensely, and unfortunately for Kyle he has hit a few snags these last couple of years, but I don’t think that’s an absolute indicator of Kyle’s demise at the hands of J’den. But if you want to employ this kind of logic, you can look at their most recent common opponent (Salas from Cuba), Kyle teched him while J’den had a very tough battle with him. But I will also say that the common opponent thing doesn’t always mean anything. Anyway, I think that both of these two are in a foot race and who trains and prepares the best, will be our representative.
  38. 0 points
    Marcus Cisero

    Spencer Lee Wins Hodge Trophy

    Misty - that was well written but here's a question I'll present, then answer myself. Question: How many times will Spencer meet Glory next season? Answer: Once - during the NCAA. I'll predict the same if Vito Arujau doesn't move up (and don't tell me how bad Lee beat him during freestyle - its irrelevant to me). This season will be Lee's last and you can bet all the farms in Iowa Brands will implement the greatest "duck" option wrestling has ever seen to protect him right up to the big dance in March. I'm not a betting man either but I'm willing to bet my words over yours.
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