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    TheOhioState got a reaction from southend in Vaccination retirement   
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    TheOhioState got a reaction from southend in Vaccination retirement   
    Typical.  Wants someone else to do the work for him.
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    TheOhioState reacted to gimpeltf in From Wrestling to Rassling   
    Not answering your question but apparently U Minn Hwts do it a lot- Vern Gagne!
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    TheOhioState reacted to AnklePicker in How long until...   
    They create the haves and have nots. Easy for the premier programs to start an RTC. Not so easy for the little guys. And really how many RTCs can our country sustain?  How many senior level athletes are there even out there?  In the end they will create even less parity. 
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    TheOhioState got a reaction from jp157 in How long until...   
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    TheOhioState got a reaction from fadzaev2 in The upside case for Snyder   
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    TheOhioState reacted to Sparky in The upside case for Snyder   
    Snyder finishes the shots, he wins.  He gave up 4 points on defensive tilts. There is little separating them.  
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    TheOhioState got a reaction from DocBZ in Penn State's secret sauce   
    Dan Gable dominated until Dan Gable retired.  None of his disciples came close to matching him.

    Cael Sanderson became the next Dan Gable.  None of his disciples will come close to matching him.

    On a different level, you can say the same with Rob Koll at Cornell and Tom Ryan at Ohio State.  Those who follow will not come close to matching them.

     
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    TheOhioState got a reaction from jmez in Penn State's secret sauce   
    Dan Gable dominated until Dan Gable retired.  None of his disciples came close to matching him.

    Cael Sanderson became the next Dan Gable.  None of his disciples will come close to matching him.

    On a different level, you can say the same with Rob Koll at Cornell and Tom Ryan at Ohio State.  Those who follow will not come close to matching them.

     
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    TheOhioState reacted to grappler6 in Penn State wins again   
    Gable loves it at Minnesota and he has everything he needs to be successful right here at home.

    NLWC is a great program, but the transplants Gilman and Snyder achieved very high levels of success elsewhere as well prior to coming over.

    The moral of story is that the elite can find high levels of success at a handful or two of programs. NLWC isn’t necessarily the answer for everyone.


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    TheOhioState reacted to lu1979 in The Champ is Saduleav   
    Nice write up - small factual correction - Medved's last Gold was in Munich in 1972 Olympics.  He beat C Taylor among others.  I for one have not given up on Kyle knocking off Sad at some point in the future - He is also only 25 and seems committed to improving.  Sad is a little ahead of him now but that doesn't mean Snyder can't turn that around.  I hope Sadulaev goes to Oslo in a couple of months and Snyder gets another crack at him.
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    TheOhioState reacted to fadzaev2 in The Champ is Saduleav   
    When you talk GOAT, I can think of some serious contenders.....Satiev of course, but people need to watch some of these guys in there prime....Arsen Fadzaev, Sergei Belaglozov, Levan Tediashvili, Alexander Medved....close behind John Smith, and I have to throw in Bruce Baumgartner just because he has the world record with 13 World and Olympic Medals and many competitions with David Gobedshvili.  Then there is Valentine Jordanov of Bulgaria.  There are great ones who only competed for a short time and were great...the one I think of is Ivan Yarigan who retired to become the CCCP National Coach for a long time.
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    TheOhioState reacted to hbluejr in The upside case for Snyder   
    As a Snyder fan, I'm naturally inclined to agree with this take and feel there's been a good amount of less-than-convincingly-supported negativity regarding his recent progression and the finals match. 

    Over his past 25 matches or so, IMO Snyder has looked considerably improved than the 25 matches or so leading up to 2019 worlds.  In my view, as he approached 2019 worlds, Snyder increasingly started to wrestle like a HWT (maybe years wrestling NCAA HWT, having a HWT for a coach/training partner, the added bulk, etc. increasingly played a role).  He would routinely lunge for opponent's heads, lean on a heavy lead-hand club,  push/pull, and look to drive/shuffle opponents backwards.  He was leaning very north/south and more agile opponents found it easier to slip of the tracks and cleanly get to his legs (I recall several times it looked like Snyder would almost fall over opponents on their shots he was caught so off-balance).  He also started to regularly try to shoot through his own ties, which again allowed the more agile guys to feel/anticipate his attacks coming and beat him to the corner.   In his last 25 matches or so he has looked to have much more active hands when hand fighting (especially utilizing his left hand more effectively), much more active feet, and better balance.  I think there's some DT in his hand fighting now.  One result has been opponents have rarely sniffed his legs over that span.  He's also started to get back to more consistently sliding off of his own ties, clears, and snaps to cleaner shots during opponents' reaction time.  He's not as quick to the leg as he was when he came onto the scene, but I think the active hands and feet have made him better defensively and opened up more step out opportunities.  I think a quick perusal of match scores over the last 50 or so matches reveals a more dominant wrestler over the last 12+ months.   As for the Sadulaev match, I think different tactics could lead to a better result.  I was surprised to see Snyder going back to low level attacks so frequently this tournament.  In recent tournaments I had been seeing much more commitment to hand-fighting/pressuring opponents to the edge and looking for snap downs or Hi-C's and doubles that could be converted into step outs if well defended.  I don't know if some of the low singles and pick attempts throughout the tournament were something they thought they could exploit against Sadulaev, or if it was just Snyder defaulting back to what used to get the job done for him in big moments.  Sadulaev had hit a beautiful chest wrap or two earlier in the tournament and it was clear he's now Dake-ish from that position.  Scary stuff for a 97kg-er.   Sadulaev's better-rounded scoring potential from par tarre and shot defense give him more routes to victory for sure, but the positives for Snyder are that Sadulaev didn't come particularly close to a clean TD and Snyder got one of his own off his Hi-C- almost to a trap arm too.  The last two times they wrestled Sad got to Snyder's legs fairly cleanly early on, but not here.  Better shot selection from Snyder and a commitment to more pressure through handfighting could certainly lead to a tighter match down the stretch when hopefully Snyder can pull Sadulaev into deep water.  Sadulaev did look quite worn down in that final 90 seconds or so (he also looked as large/muscular as I've ever seen him, so maybe those two things are related).  

    Finally, per the "NLWC" thread, it's just not the case that Snyder had a cake draw compared to Sadulaev.  Per UWW database, entering the tournament Conyedo served Sharifov his most recent loss (June '21), Karadeniz's gave Odikadze his most recent loss (April '21), and Snyder teched Salas in his most recent loss (2020 PanAms).  It's been nearly two years since the last world championships- a lot has changed in the field.
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    TheOhioState reacted to Crotalus in The upside case for Snyder   
    There's definitely some positive takeaways. Snyder's style in these big matches is to wear his opponent down and score at the end of the match. He got the style of match he wanted, he just made mistakes on those low singles and gave up the chest wraps to put him in too big of a hole. Sad did not score a takedown on him and was clearly fading at the end (though Snyder was too).
     
    Snyder is definitely a notch below Sadulaev, but he's the best wrestler in the planet, so I don't understand the criticism. Snyder has done nothing but bring home hardware on the international stage and unless Cox steps up, he'll get more shots at Sad.
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    TheOhioState reacted to denger in The upside case for Snyder   
    I think it will come down to how the two age. They're essentially the same age at 25 (KS is about 6months older), so developmentally and physically, they've both reached maturity. There may have been questions in the past about this, to do with who might have an advantage after both emerged early from age-group levels, but I think that discussion is now closed. 
    I didn't recognize Snyder's improvement to the extent that you described, but I'll take your word for it. -I think it's just as likely that KS faced inferior competition compared to Sad. What I did notice is that Sadulaev, while obviously still dominant, has slowed down. This could be more mature tactics, but it could also be that he's physically slowing down. Snyder doesn't wrestle at the same pace as before, either - So, same speculation as Sad. Certainly, Kyle's commitment to make changes and improve play in his favor. I don't know how that compares to Sadulaev's decisions/options for training, facilities, partners, etc. 
    Barring injury, I think Sadulaev holds all the advantages for the foreseeable future. I'll never rule Snyder out because he's a great competitor and I'm a huge fan!
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    TheOhioState reacted to BAC in Petriashvili and The Agony of Defeat   
    Random side note:  Did you notice how the silver medal podium is on the same height as the bronze podium at this Olympics, with only the gold being elevated?  Didn't they used to elevate the silver podium so it was at least above bronze?  Dang, at least throw the silver medalist that one little bone.
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    TheOhioState reacted to BuckyBadger in Petriashvili and The Agony of Defeat   
    All credit to Gable, he earned it and I’m glad he won. But I feel for Geno. To get taken down twice in the last fifteen seconds is a brutal way to lose. Especially at heavyweight where everything just happens more slowly. He did what he needed to turn the match back in his favor, had it in his hands and probably should have won.
    My wife told me about a recent study where the researchers found that bronze medalists were happier with their achievement than the silver medalists.
    I don’t how you can accurately measure or quantify such a thing, but the conclusion makes a lot of sense to me. To get denied when you are so close to gold has to be a sort of mental torture. At least with bronze you go out with a win and you have some level of redemption.
    For Geno this will probably be one of those moments that always haunts you. Like Bill Buckner in 86 or when Terry Brands lost to Cross at the Olympic trials.
    He has got to be rerunning those last 15 seconds in his head over and over right now. I feel for the guy.
     
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    TheOhioState reacted to denger in Taylor Olympic GOLD medal match   
    I put this somewhere else, but I doubt anyone wants to discuss it there. 
    It could still use a Byzantine halo around the part attached to the ribbon, but otherwise I'm pretty happy with my interpretation. 
    Way to go, Magic Man. USA, Ohio and PA, we're all proud!
    Also, I've been puzzled by broadcasts saying he's from Nevada. 

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    TheOhioState got a reaction from DanGerMan in Olympics on the verge of being cancelled   
    Set it up like this:

    1)  If you are scared to come and compete at Tokyo, stay at home.  

    2)  If you want to come and compete, compete.

    3)  If you are scared of watching from the stands, stay at home.

    4)  If you want to watch from the stands, come on in.

    5)  If you want to wear a mask at the venue, wear one.

    5)  If you want everyone to wear a mask, stay at home.  

     
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    TheOhioState reacted to BobDole in Wrestling Subscription Advice   
    You're not wrong, however that is the nature of anything in life. Too many wrestling people want everything for free and for many years most everything was free. I remember back when the only site that charged was Intermat.
    Some of the business models we have can limit our exposure. For instance, the Flo model is basically a cash grab in that you have to pay for a full year and there are technically no monthly or single event options(FYI you can go to another vertical to get monthly options and get wrestling content). That type of model hurts the people who want to watch a single event like Super 32, Ironman, etc and not pay $150 for it. The TrackWrestling model of having an option for MANY events(Gold+) or being able to buy a single event is great. 

    The casual fans are who we hurt with poor business models such as these. Grandma and grandpa, uncle Joe, etc aren't going to shell out $150 to watch Billy at the Super 32 or Fargo. They might shell out $15 or $20 though. The news sites aren't really for the fringe wrestling fans, sites like Rokfin, Intermat, TOM, etc. are there for the hardcore fans that want to consume an insane amount of content.  
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    TheOhioState reacted to BobDole in Wrestling Subscription Advice   
    Luckily a lot of lobbyists have made my life easy these days as I have subscriptions to Flo, Track, TOM, Intermat, and Rokfin.
    Flo- I have canceled my subscription, however will likely pick it up for Fargo. Their content is getting stale and their personalities can be very abrasive at times. I'll either take advantage of their 20% off offer(after I canceled they offered this) or go through one of their other platforms for a monthly subscription. 
    Track- Lots of events on their Gold+ plan along with the text updates. Text updates are nice when you want to follow, but also have a life. 
    TOM- They are still getting a lot of content published with the new hire. If I were to cut one they would be high on the list as I can't read everything.
    Intermat- Greatly increased content even in the off-season. Hopefully it continues.
    Rokfin- It is nice, but a little cumbersome to really consume a lot of content on there. I wish there was a Facebook/Twitter type feed with the new content so we could easily see the new stuff being posted.
    At the end of the day paying the money for these things is good for the sport. People promoting the sport and earning a living off of it is GREAT. Keep in mind when you complain about prices, money drives everything. Too many people want everything for free in wrestling and that is not sustainable.
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    TheOhioState reacted to nhs67 in Wrestling Subscription Advice   
    I have Flo, Rokfin, and Intermat.  To me, they're worth it, each one of them.  If I had to put them in order, right now?  Throwing moralities out the window?  It's still even there.  Roll a dice.  
    Flo has the most content(currently) at $150 for the year up front($12.50 a month end-cost).
    Intermat is improving more and more under the guidance of Willie.  I expect more content as well as an increase in cost (eventually).  Not sure how their streaming plan/options are going to look in the future.  Perhaps @Husker_Du can educate us.  $40 a year ($3.33 a month end-cost).
    Rokfin @ $9.99 a month.  Rokfin was easily the best, but since NCAA season started the content has leveled out a bit to make it rather even for the cost.
    Intermat at $40 makes that a no-brainer, looking at it honestly.
    Trackwrestling at $50 per year is also not bad, but their future/intent is clouded for me right now.  I don't know what to expect going forward being as Flo bought them out.
    SO!
    In hindsight:
    Intermat first.
    Flip a coin for Rokfin/Flo
    If you're trusting that track is going to maintain current content for free or make more behind a paywall(like Flo) I would do track at $50 before Flo at $150 and do a Rokfin at $10 per month.
    SO!!
     
    In summary, after re-reading my rants/raves:
    Get all four.
    If getting three, get Intermat, Rokfin, Flo
    If getting two, get Intermat, Flo
    If getting one, and willing to spend $150, right now it is Flo.  My opinion may change and if money is a concern for now, Intermat is the way to go, and the price option of monthly for Rokfin plust $90 for Track/Intermat total for a year is  the easier option.  Me, personally, I factor in moralities and will put Intermat and Rokfin ahead of Flo every time, if it comes down to that sort of cancel-culture mentality taking a priority in decision making.
    Sorry to be all over, but these are ramblings.
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    TheOhioState got a reaction from Plasmodium in Olympics on the verge of being cancelled   
    Set it up like this:

    1)  If you are scared to come and compete at Tokyo, stay at home.  

    2)  If you want to come and compete, compete.

    3)  If you are scared of watching from the stands, stay at home.

    4)  If you want to watch from the stands, come on in.

    5)  If you want to wear a mask at the venue, wear one.

    5)  If you want everyone to wear a mask, stay at home.  

     
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    TheOhioState got a reaction from dman115 in Olympics on the verge of being cancelled   
    Set it up like this:

    1)  If you are scared to come and compete at Tokyo, stay at home.  

    2)  If you want to come and compete, compete.

    3)  If you are scared of watching from the stands, stay at home.

    4)  If you want to watch from the stands, come on in.

    5)  If you want to wear a mask at the venue, wear one.

    5)  If you want everyone to wear a mask, stay at home.  

     
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    TheOhioState got a reaction from Eagle26 in Olympics on the verge of being cancelled   
    Set it up like this:

    1)  If you are scared to come and compete at Tokyo, stay at home.  

    2)  If you want to come and compete, compete.

    3)  If you are scared of watching from the stands, stay at home.

    4)  If you want to watch from the stands, come on in.

    5)  If you want to wear a mask at the venue, wear one.

    5)  If you want everyone to wear a mask, stay at home.  

     
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