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  1. When I watched Dake at the Body Bar .... He just gassed terribly. And I suspect it was from his weight management issues. Most of us ... can recognize those symptoms, as we (read me) were not the most disciplined in our weight management. I suspect at times I was dangerously dehydrated. I should have never been down at 118#.
  2. "It has been said before, but before you count out this years Iowa team, all you need to do is look at McDonough from last year. Barely on anyones radar to start the year, and look how that turned out." If you guys recall .... McBono was not on the radar nor ranked, until he dropped to 125# ... He had been projected at 133# in the pre-season. Even the Iowa faithful were surprised the kid dropped , and not only made it, he held the weight very, very well the whole season, The kid is the POSTER CHILD for how to cut down, and stay down.I'm surprised he's still down there this year. The kid is a stud, when it comes to weight management.
  3. no you cant, not even close, remember Ryan morningstAR? the guy who won the ncaa tourney for iowa two years ago? or Dan Dennis? These are Z (/hartung guys)(gulp). Phil Keddy? Erekson (the other guy who won the NCAA tourney for Iowa) I don't give any credence to the Z's guys/two recruiting class argument against brands, its BS, but don't just make stuff up brycemus .... What I was trying to say was a "Total 100%" Brand's team. From conception, recruiting, signing, RS'ing etc .. to finish. Totally his and his Staff's effort, and organization. I'm not going to rehash the whole thing with you. Cael is in a similar situation... as he has leftovers as well. Got 'rid of one to ASU .... And has a few years to go, to be 100% Cael's team. He actively recruited/supported one (1) wrestler from the ISU team ... His younger brother. And Cael had one (I think) recruit switch to PSU on his own volition. As a side note: I understand your reading skills are a bit compromised ... In that post, I "suggested" that he's got a bunch of studs, that might do very well. "Actually, I'm really looking forward to seeing how this group of wrestlers do. This is 100% Brand's team now. No VT members, just pure Tom Brand's recruits. Kinda like Coach Z. went through. Not knocking Brand's in any way. I'm just anxious to see how the guys do. It's a young bunch, and if indeed they are in or around the top 5 at the NCAA's, that would be a very impressive performance.... With good things to come in the next year. They are "reloading" IMO."
  4. "I honestly think people underestimate how hard it is to get a whole team clicking on all cylinders at nationals." I suspect ton's of people understand how hard it is to get 100% performance out of all the guys who end up at the NCAA's for any given team .... BSU for example last year. OUCH !! Which is why we respect OK State, Minny and Iowa so much.
  5. Actually, I'm really looking forward to seeing how this group of wrestlers do. This is 100% Brand's team now. No VT members, just pure Tom Brand's recruits. Kinda like Coach Z. went through. Not knocking Brand's in any way. I'm just anxious to see how the guys do. It's a young bunch, and if indeed they are in or around the top 5 at the NCAA's, that would be a very impressive performance.... With good things to come in the next year. They are "reloading" IMO. I hope Marion, get's "squared away" and returns. I liked to watch him wrestle from the very 1st time I saw him. Just a fun kinda kid to watch on the mat.
  6. Actually 18 Iowa wrestlers were at KB ... 12/03 against ISU is really their 1st major dual.
  7. How close to the Olympics did they have these try outs? WEST VIRGINIA MAT THOUGHTS by Dr. Bill Welker ... on Bobby Douglas The Wrestler As a teenager growing up into manhood during the late '50s, Bobby Douglas had two strikes against him. He was poor and he was black, facing the realities of prejudice. But Bobby Douglas also had two positive assets going for him. He was a great athlete and he had George Kovalick as a coach and surrogate father. Thus, Douglas developed into an outstanding wrestler, winning two Ohio state championships, numerous national titles, and berths on two Olympic teams (1964 & 1968) and several World Championship squads. Later, as a coach, he produced the 1988 Arizona State NCAA Division I Champions and most recently was selected to coach the 1992 Freestyle Olympic Team. One would think with these accomplishments Bobby, at least, would not have to face prejudice on the mats. Unfortunately, such was not the case over twenty years ago. Consider this true incident in Bobby's final days as a competitor. It was 1970 and Bobby Douglas decided to take one more shot at the World Championships. He made it to the finals of the U.S. trials, where Bobby had to beat his opponent (a rising star in the sport) the best out of 3 bouts. Well, Douglas did win the first two matches by close margins. That should have settled it. Not so! The world-team coach decided he wanted them to wrestle another match, even after the younger wrestler told the mentor--"Hey, Bobby's the winner; he beat me fair and square in two matches." The coach still insisted that they wrestle another bout. Bobby was upset and said, "Look! Wrestlers in other weight classes had some close matches and won, but they weren't forced to wrestle an extra match. Why me?" He finished by telling the coach to forget it and headed for the showers. In the locker room, the coach caught up to Bobby and finally persuaded him to wrestle another bout. It wasn't right, but Bobby liked his younger adversary and decided--"What the heck!" Believe or not, that one more match turned into five more match-like situations, for a total of seven elimination bouts with the same opponent. Most unfair, I would say, even for a nobody in the sport, but Bobby was an internationally-known, world-class wrestler at the time. Now here's the kicker. Douglas won six matches (with the seventh ending in a draw), and both wrestlers were physically beaten up after this weeklong endurance contest. Less than two weeks later, Bobby competed in the 1970 World Championships physically drained, then he suffered a concussion in the first match, and was unable to place in the event. I wonder what Douglas would have done healthy, wrestling only two instead of seven grueling U.S. trial matches prior to the competition. We'll never know. There are two redeeming outcomes from this travesty of justice. First, Bobby Douglas was selected as the 1970 Outstanding U.S. Wrestler. And second, nobody except Bridgeport Ohio's Bobby Douglas can say he won six out of seven matches against one who many consider to be America's greatest wrestler of all times--DAN GABLE! Return to the West Virginia Mat Thoughts Index Page Return to the WV-Mat front page Updated October 12, 1997
  8. Yeah ... I hear ya', and in fact we have pointed it out ourselves several times. So close, yet so far! BSU, can't afford to lose guys like a Hoch, or Chrisswell. It just kills us. Point is, Hock is coming back, and that represents some points, not listed in the original post. It's not like he is a long shot.
  9. Say ... Hoch had of ended up 4th?? How many points would that have been? He was healthy, and capable. Just sayin'
  10. NO .. And actually I'm Glad. Because it we did, that would mean someone has cracked the code to Human Cloning, and that would be a Bummer .... cause there are some folks we don't want to see around for the second time.
  11. Getting out of the flatlands of Iowa is worth a bunch!! And the PA country is a bonus. IMO it's hard to put a $$ value on that!! Cael is happy, his brothers are happy, and i can'f fault a single one of them.
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