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Everything posted by Sheerstress

  1. That was how it was until the early 1990s with Div 2 and Div 3 champs advancing to Div 1. Personally, I liked it, but Div 1 coaches put an end to it because of how it affected team races.
  2. Think the third time will be the charm? Or truly the end for his MMA career? http://intermatwrestle.com/articles/22366
  3. Does anyone know how things are shaping up for this program? In spite of his problems at Oklahoma, Cody was generally a solid coach who built the program at American up from almost nothing, and it seems that this is another chance for him to try to do the same thing. Their roster is very small, with it being the same 11 guys listed last year: http://www.gobluehose.com/SportSelect.dbml?&DB_OEM_ID=18100&SPID=10729&SPSID=1171212 Hard to see how they will fill 10 weight classes with that. And the last news on any of them was on the six that wrestled at the US Open: http://www.gobluehose.com/ViewArticle.dbml?SPSID=1171210&SPID=10729&DB_LANG=C&ATCLID=211801907&DB_OEM_ID=18100
  4. His profile at the Northwest Tech website doesn't say much: https://www.ntmavericks.com/sports/wrest/coaches/Wrestling_Head_Coach
  5. Great overall athlete, big, strong, and moved around very well for a heavyweight. His first year at Division I, there was something of an intimidation factor with him, as he was very muscular and scary looking.
  6. Yes, that may be the most black-and-white interpretation. Since Johnson's hair was not in its natural state at mat side, he should have had the 90 seconds to undo his dreadlocks and get his hair into its natural state so Mahoney could evaluate its length. Since that would have been just about impossible to do in 90 seconds, Johnson should have simply been disqualified, and not even given the opportunity to cut his hair. I wonder if all the people out there protesting the haircut would have been satisfied with this option? Would it have even become the national spectacle that it did?
  7. From last season's rules: Rule 4-2-1: During competition, all wrestlers shall be clean shaven with sideburns trimmed no lower than earlobe level and hair trimmed and well groomed. The hair, in its natural state, shall not extend below the top of an ordinary shirt collar in the back; and on the sides, the hair shall not extend below earlobe level; in the front, the hair shall not extend below the eyebrows. [emphasis mine] Source: 2018-19 NFHS Wrestling Rules Book 4.2.1 Situation E: Wrestler A appears at weigh-ins with hair in tight cornrows. After making the prescribed weight, the wrestler indicates no desire to undo the hair, as it takes time and is expensive to have performed. RULING: This is permissible if the hair is covered by a legal hair cover that is attached to the ear guards. COMMENT: A legal hair cover is intended to allow a wrestler to compete with hair longer than permitted by rule. A referee cannot assume the hairstyle meets the prescribed rule, therefore should a wrestler choose not to meet the rule, a legal hair cover attached to the ear guards shall be required and approved at weigh-ins. [emphasis mine] Source: 2018-19 NFHS Wrestling Case Book I hate to beat a dead horse, but It seems that the whole thing boils down to what the term "natural state" is supposed to mean. Up till now, I have assumed that it meant the hair could not be manipulated in a manner such as braiding or pinning or banding, and then gravity would determine whether the hair went below the collar, earlobe, or eyebrows. Per 4.2.1 Situation E, in the NFHS Wrestling Case Book, this seems to be the case, indicating that the hair had to be inspected WITHOUT it being manipulated, and that the cornrows described in Situation E had to be undone in order for proper inspection of hair length. Hence, according to the interpretation above, Andrew Johnson's hair was NOT in its natural state because it was braided/dredlocked, and therefore had to have a legal hair covering (which he did not have). And hence, Alan Mahoney's application of the rule was indeed correct. Yet the New Jersey DCR states that "In particular, they seek to eliminate any interpretation of Rule 4.2.1 that allowed wrestling officials to determine that traditionally black hairstyles were 'unnatural' or to subject wrestlers with traditionally black hairstyles to differential treatment as to when a haircover was required." But the above rule and its case book application, which were the rule at the time of last December's incident, make NO mention of the race of the wrestler, just that the hair was not in its natural, unmanipulated state! Does anyone here have any better insight as to what "natural state" refers to beyond what is stated in the rules? It seems they just threw the official under the bus for doing his job.
  8. In the interview, does anyone know what park it was they were walking though?
  9. Best wishes. Please feel welcome to drop by again any time.
  10. I think the original arrangement may have been that Seay was suspended in 1991, and Smith was the interim coach for the 1991-92 season. It may have been that Smith was not officially named head coach until 1992 (similar to Gable and Zalesky for the '97-'98 season). Regardless of the actual technicalities, Smith was the one who was running the program that season.
  11. https://www.si.com/vault/1992/06/15/126661/wrestling-never-too-old-to-go-for-gold-at-37-chris-campbell-has-earned-a-long-delayed-trip-to-the-olympics "...Last fall [1991] he was pressed into service as coach at his alma mater, Oklahoma State, after Cowboy coach Joe Seay left amid a recruiting scandal. "It's been the worst year I've ever had in wrestling," said Smith last Friday. "I will never, ever coach and wrestle at the same time again. I felt like I was cheating both the team and myself. My preparation suffered, and that hurt."
  12. Smith was the interim head coach during the '91-92 season. He later said that being head coach during an Olympic year was detrimental to his own training.
  13. Michigan (finalized) https://mgoblue.com/schedule.aspx?path=wrestling
  14. https://www.si.com/vault/1984/07/18/643812/the-ultimate-winner "....[Randy] Lewis was recently pondering what makes Gable so effective as a coach. "He knows how to make adjustments, when to work, when to ease off," Lewis said. "And he has the ability to keep things new. Workouts are different every day. You never know what's next. He'll tell you to start running laps, and you don't know if it will be one lap or 10. But when he sees you're really tired, I'll tell you what, that's when he pushes you some more."
  15. At the time, it seemed all Lockhart did the whole match was stand in front of Rowlands while the latter kept shooting. Then in the tiebreaker, when Rowlands goes for Lockhart's legs, they call stalling on HIM!
  16. Michigan (partial schedule): https://mgoblue.com/schedule.aspx?path=wrestling
  17. I didn't see the fight yet, but sounds like he went down swinging. I like Miocic, but am glad Cormier has been able to gain respectability.
  18. For Robles, it seemed that was the result of not having one leg. He had the upper body of a 149 pounder.
  19. Jason Nolf wasn't as muscular as some guys out there, but I didn't think he exactly looked weak or scrawny either.
  20. I always thought Logan Stieber looked very ordinary next to most of his opponents, but would then proceed to dominate just about all of them.
  21. Interesting. I think I've seen articles where Jordan Burroughs has mentioned his religious beliefs, and recall that Carl Perry had some issues with a church he was attending back when he was at Illinois, although I didn't know about the others. I will say that I've always thought that wrestling was a little more conservative in its outlook than other sports, although we've got plenty of people in wrestling on both sides of the spectrum.
  22. Specifically which people in wrestling these days are outwardly religious? Just asking. When I was wrestling, way back in the late 70s and early 80s, the only high profile wresters who were outwardly religious were the Peterson brothers. For me personally, the only other guy who was outwardly religious was our high school team's assistant coach, and while we would get into conversations with him a few times during the season, it wasn't like he was preaching something to us all the time.
  23. One of the few people he had an ongoing feud with was Gable. Always a thorn in his side: https://www.si.com/vault/1989/03/27/119600/at-last-a-title-for-the-cowboys-oklahoma-state-ended-18-years-of-drought-and-the-proud-hawkeyes-placed-sixth "...After Seay coached a U.S. team to a tie on points with the favored Soviets in the 1986 World Cup competition, he remembers Kathy Gable telling him, "You did a good job here, but you'll never beat Iowa and Dan." Seay wrote those words down. "I stuck it on the wall above the toilet," said Seay last Saturday. "My response to her was 'Never's a long time.' I guess 'never' is today." https://www.si.com/vault/1990/04/02/106781311/cowboys-of-crunch "...Though Arizona State entered this year's championships as the favorite, for Seay only one opponent truly mattered. "We have outrecruited Iowa for the last three or four years," Seay boasted before the hostilities commenced last week at Maryland's Cole Field House. "That's because there no longer is a single reason to go to Iowa instead of Oklahoma State. Wrestlers look at us and say, 'Somebody there must be doing something right.' " Until last year, Gable had the upper hand in this rivalry, which began in 1972. Back then, as an Iowa State 149½-pounder, he defeated Seay in the finals of the Olympic trials. As a coach, Seay has continued to resent playing second fiddle to Gable, in the recruiting wars and in the politics of the sport. Says Gable, who coached Iowa to nine consecutive NCAA titles, beginning in 1978, "He lives his life, I live mine." He publicly criticized the Brands brothers because of their brawling style of wrestling, and Gable simply responded that he wouldn't tell his athletes to be less aggressive, and that other coaches were simply jealous of their success. Despite all this, I recall seeing Seay at the Midlands in the late 90s after he was out of coaching. He was trying to enjoy watching the competition, but kept running into countless wrestlers and coaches that came up to say hello. Among them were both Brands brothers, and seeing them together was like seeing long lost friends! I'm sure he worked with them on many world level teams, and probably improved their relationship over time. He truly had a unique approach to coaching.
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