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    bigmik got a reaction from LoStNuMbEr in Is Chris Pendleton the GOAT of college wrestling?   
    I wouldn't object to calling 69-2 pretty good. We have found common ground. Let's build on that going forward.
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    bigmik got a reaction from WildTurkey44 in Is bigmik the GOAT poster?   
    WildTurkey,
     
    You are one of the most influential Iowa posters on the board. I have to rate you highly amongst the Iowa faithful since you stayed around here while many seemed to take their ball and go home after Penn State started winning.
     
    Top Iowa posters:
     
    1) Vak. Longevity. "Mr. Iowa". A force when he's "On". Intelligent. Sadly, in recent times has resorted to blatant sophistry to "win" arguments. I don't blame him too much, he's clearly being overworked at the office. I go back and forth with a lot of posters, but Vak has historically been my favorite. You play the game well Vak, but remember who put the ball in your hands.
     
    2) WildTurkey: You like to "fite" as KMF would say. Entertaining back and forth with Flying Tiger. #1 GILMAN defender
     
    3) Alwayswrestling. Old school. Lives in NE now, but always has Iowa on his heart. Respectable individual.
     
    4) Tec87: I put you here because you are the most consistent Metcalf apologist of all time. Nobody loves Metcalf more than you. You took the torch from MSU158, who took it from Vak, and have been carrying it proudly ever since. Please just don't get caught trying to sneak your homemade Metcalf bust into the National Wrestling Hall of Fame through the backdoor.
     
    5) MSU158: Benedict Arnold. You should be cheering for your home team. Sad!
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    bigmik got a reaction from HurricaneWrestling in Is bigmik the GOAT poster?   
    Posters of the Year for the 2016-2017 wrestling season
     
    1) Bigmik: Obviously. The standard. Consistently drops gems on those with ears to hear. A national treasure.
     
    2) Tbar1977: He sets the tone for the board. Leader of the PSU regime. Consistently in the center of discussion. Currently renting space in a few poster's heads (you know who you are). Taylor apologist. Consistently wins the debate over the national duals.
     
    3) MSU158: Consistently on the wrong side of the debate, yet always in the middle of it. Useful posts calculating NCAA team scores. Reliable for picking the top 3 team finishes (just remember to switch the #1 team on his list with #2 PSU before placing any bets! My #1 foil.
     
    4) Wrestlingnerd: Richie Rich. #2nd richest poster on the board behind...me! :). Intelligent posts. Too easily annoyed at times, but solid posts in both the college and international forums.
     
    5) Flying Tiger. Never backs away from an argument. Always in an argument for his unapologetic PSU fandom. Entertaining rivalry with headshuck.
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    bigmik got a reaction from Cletus_Tucker in 2017 Penn St vs 1997 Iowa   
    Those Askren stats remind me of arguments I used to have years ago on the old boxing forums. The Askren arguments are eerily similar to the ones I used to have over the "great" boxer Acelino Freitas. He was kind of like the Askren of boxing. 
    2004: Acelino Freitas 35-0 (31 KOs). He's the next biggest thing in boxing folks, he's truly one for the ages"! "He's relentless. He knocks guys out from all angles with BOTH hands.
     
    Freitas fans: He is an all time great. No one is doing what he's doing right now. He's amazing. He's just at another level.
     
    Me: He's pretty good guys.
     
    Frietas fans: "What do you mean pretty good? Stop with the backhanded compliments. He's amazing, you're just a hater".
     
    Me: Yeah, he has some talent, but he's not quite elite. Yes, he appears to be elite, but that's because he's not facing the top fighters yet. Remember what happened to him in the amateurs when he faced the creme de la creme? He was outclassed. If you're looking for an elite fighter, check out Floyd Mayweather Jr.
     
    Frietas fans: Why are you going back to the amateurs? He's waaaayyy different now. He's jumped levels. He's much better. Besides, that's not even the same style fool. And...
     
    Me: Wait. Are you sure that he has jumped levels? Maybe he looks a million bucks because he's facing weaker, younger fighters. He has talent, but he's not nearly as special as you think. Once he faced the truly great technical boxers he's going to run into problems
     
     
    Freitas fans: Hahaha are you kidding me? That's what they said about Joel Casamayor. They said he was a great technical boxer and Freitas beat him easy. He would beat anyone including that Mayweather guy.
     
    Me: Yes, he had a good win over Casamayor. I give him credit, that was impressive. Still, Casamayor is a notch below elite. He's second tier just like Freitas. Freitas can certainly get away with his mistakes against these types, but that will not happen against tier 1 opponents. Not consistently at least.
     
    Freitas fans: I vehemently disagree with you. Anyone who says a world champion with a 35-0 31 KO record is not top tier is crazy. No one agrees with you. No one. Most here on this forum do not agree with you.
     
    .......
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    bigmik got a reaction from boconnell in 2017 Penn St vs 1997 Iowa   
    Boconell,
     
    Yes a guy with a conventional "Cael style" will not always beat someone with an "Askren style", nor is he always better, especially if they don't have the similar talent levels. But at the highest levels, at the same talent level, the "Cael" style is preferable. That's why coaches will always teach that style. The Sanders, Askren, Mills, etc. wll always meet its kryptonite at the highest levels.
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    bigmik got a reaction from cjc007 in Cael vs Sadulaev   
    NCAA wrestling is essentially age group wrestling. 99% of the wrestlers are 18-23 years old. It's not a knock to point it out. Or to point out the fact that every year that Cael was in college, the most talented opponents,potentially capable of beating him, were out of collegiate eligibility. This is true for most NCAA champions in the vast majority of years.
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    bigmik got a reaction from spladle08 in Penn St 2017 vs Ok St 2005   
    Are you still trying to smuggle Metcalf into the All Time Greats club through the backdoor MSU?
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    bigmik got a reaction from Flying-Tiger in Penn St 2017 vs Ok St 2005   
    He lost to Lowe from Minnesota at NCAAs in the 7th place match.
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    bigmik got a reaction from Plasmodium in Cael vs Sadulaev   
    NCAA wrestling is essentially age group wrestling. 99% of the wrestlers are 18-23 years old. It's not a knock to point it out. Or to point out the fact that every year that Cael was in college, the most talented opponents,potentially capable of beating him, were out of collegiate eligibility. This is true for most NCAA champions in the vast majority of years.
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    bigmik got a reaction from pjm46 in Cael vs Sadulaev   
    The Peterson's are honest men, and they are telling the truth in this cass. However, that doesn't mean what people think it means. There is a weird psychological factor that often comes into play in the room when one wrestles their coach, or another respected older wrestler. For some reason, maybe it's respect or some subconscious issue in the mind that prevents the younger guy to not fully wrestle his best, or anywhere close to it. It's not uncommon. These type of stories go long past Gable. John Smith has some and many others.  
    At the time Gable was handily beating the Peterson's, Wayne Wells (163 lbs) was getting the best of him in 15 minute goes. Well documented, you can actually ask the poster BigApple to chime in. Gable would start to get the better of the exchanges only after Wells was fatigued. Ironically enough, at the same time, Wayne Wells was getting throttled by Tommy Evans from whistle to whistle. This was in 1972, Gable's and Well's prime years. Tommy Evans was out of his wrestling prime by over a 16 years at this point. This doesn't make any sense until you consider the fact that Evans coached Wells. So the same effect that Gable had on his teammates and wrestlers was also in play when Evans was handling Wells, whom Gable couldn't handle. Long story short, when the practice room stories seem utterly bizarre, it's usually because of weird factors like these.
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    bigmik got a reaction from TobusRex in Cael vs Sadulaev   
    The Peterson's are honest men, and they are telling the truth in this cass. However, that doesn't mean what people think it means. There is a weird psychological factor that often comes into play in the room when one wrestles their coach, or another respected older wrestler. For some reason, maybe it's respect or some subconscious issue in the mind that prevents the younger guy to not fully wrestle his best, or anywhere close to it. It's not uncommon. These type of stories go long past Gable. John Smith has some and many others.  
    At the time Gable was handily beating the Peterson's, Wayne Wells (163 lbs) was getting the best of him in 15 minute goes. Well documented, you can actually ask the poster BigApple to chime in. Gable would start to get the better of the exchanges only after Wells was fatigued. Ironically enough, at the same time, Wayne Wells was getting throttled by Tommy Evans from whistle to whistle. This was in 1972, Gable's and Well's prime years. Tommy Evans was out of his wrestling prime by over a 16 years at this point. This doesn't make any sense until you consider the fact that Evans coached Wells. So the same effect that Gable had on his teammates and wrestlers was also in play when Evans was handling Wells, whom Gable couldn't handle. Long story short, when the practice room stories seem utterly bizarre, it's usually because of weird factors like these.
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    bigmik got a reaction from Perry in Is Snyder the greatest college wrestler of all time?   
    Snyder won the greatest wrestling tournaments and awards between the two. Snyder was the #1 male finisher for the Sullivan Award, which is awarded to the nation's best amateur athlete. The most prestigious amateur award in the country. Retherford was not nominated. Also, if they both finish undefeated next year, Snyder will have the highest career placements of the two wrestlers.
     
    2,1,1,1 trumps 5,1,1,1. Sullivan trumps Hodge.
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    bigmik got a reaction from Cletus_Tucker in Is Snyder the greatest college wrestler of all time?   
    Some of the guys you consider complete are really only complete under very specific circumstances. College careers are only 4 year snippets of time, and the best competition is usually not allowed to compete die to eligibility rules. For example, V. Joseph, in a very realistic sense, is not the 2017 165 pound folkstyle wrestling champion. Not with a healthy Burroughs, Dake, Dieringer, Howe, etc. still walking around.
     
    The more difficult you make the brackets, the more all of the other allegedly "all around" great folkstyle wrestlers would be exposed. Snyder wouldn't be hurting in any type of hypothetical all time bracket because realistically speaking, he's worth at least 5 takedown against 99% of everyone that can be thrown in his bracket. And probably a couple against that other 1% (Cael, Cox, Cormier, Hahn, etc).
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    bigmik got a reaction from CaliWrestler in It's A Shame   
    Taylor has no one to blame but himself. Cox simply outwrestled him. Taylor should of kept up the intensity and stuck with the game plan when Cox got hurt.
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    bigmik got a reaction from tbert in Dake Vs Dieringer   
    When he opened up, he tech-called Dieringer. I see Dake taking intentionally taking his foot off the gas in the last 2 Dieringer matches. I think he's very confident that he can beat him.
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    bigmik got a reaction from AllISeeIsBronze in Pico Want's To Have His Cake And Eat It Too   
    Pico also has a background in boxing and pankration. National champion in boxing, I think.
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    bigmik got a reaction from cjc007 in College Training vs Fulltime Freestyle training as prep...   
    Where exactly is the overwhelming evidence? Most guys that make the team wrestle freestyle full time. After graduating college, most guys improve their freestyle skills.
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    bigmik got a reaction from cjc007 in College Training vs Fulltime Freestyle training as prep...   
    Kyle trains freestyle, even during the collegiate season.
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    bigmik got a reaction from HurricaneWrestling in US open   
    Dake did not clearly pull ahead. I thought Dake would be able to get the job here, but he made a few tactical errors. As much as people don't like it, Dake has the right idea complaining to the ref. How he complained was the issue. It was more of a "whiny" style of complaint. He needs more of a "Ref, you see what's he doing and I'm sure you'll make the right call next time" look and slight nod. The subtle difference is effective. This could be huge for the next match because Burroughs, like Zain, suffers from "constant hands to the face" syndrome. Putting the refs on extra notice, and even talking to them before the match and telling them to look out for it can work in his favor. Burroughs usually is able to score so much that it gets overlooked a bit. Now that he's slowing down, and is hitting explosive takedowns much less, the hands to the face stand out all the more.
     
    A couple of tactical blunders by both wrestlers. Easily fixable. I didn't think Dake was going to let Burroughs control the ties so much. If he wrestles this way again, he might find himself on the shot clock twice in a period again. I thought he would be more aggressive. I think the key to winning for Dake is to be more offensive. He's dangerous in scrambles and he may have the edge there, but I think he's a bit hesitant because of Burroughs' physical strength.
     
    Burroughs needs to find his angles and convert. Regardless of what happens the rest of 2017, it's become exponentially more difficult to see Burroughs on the 2020 Olympic team. I still give Dake a very good chance to win at the trials.
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    bigmik got a reaction from sgallan in US open   
    I forgot about that 2 points they gave Oliver. Zain has to keep his hands away from the face. He suffers from chronic "hands to the face syndrome. The refs are calling that more aggressively this year. Oliver appeared to have a big bruise on his face due to Zain's hands.
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    bigmik got a reaction from SC_Wrestling in US open   
    I forgot about that 2 points they gave Oliver. Zain has to keep his hands away from the face. He suffers from chronic "hands to the face syndrome. The refs are calling that more aggressively this year. Oliver appeared to have a big bruise on his face due to Zain's hands.
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    bigmik got a reaction from nom in Is it time to get rid of the escape point?   
    There are times where many believe that the losing wrestler is still "unjustly" in a match that he shouldn't be in after only scoring escapes. I remember this was the reaction in the Garrett vs Clark NCAA final a couple of years ago.
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    bigmik got a reaction from GranbyTroll in Is it time to get rid of the escape point?   
    Folkstyle has had plenty of rule changes over the past two decades. Change in rules is not unique to freestyle.
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    bigmik got a reaction from BigTenFanboy in Is it time to get rid of the escape point?   
    You still refuse to acknowledge your mistakes. I don't care that you disagree. I do care that you continuously go off topic and make unfounded accusations about what am "really trying to get at".
     
    "You can back pedal all you want but it's pretty obvious what you're getting at." This has no basis in reality. I would know better than you what I'm thinking. Then you have the nerve to keep saying that you didn't take this thread off topic.
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    bigmik got a reaction from BigTenFanboy in Is it time to get rid of the escape point?   
    You made false accusations repeatedly. You aren't willing to own up to that or hijacking the thread. And then you want me to simply continue as if none of this happened.
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