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  1. You are 100 percent correct that it is "BS" and "100% political". It's yet another false panic brought on by ------------ do I REALLY have to say it? FACT is as many as 650,000 people die worldwide from the yearly seasonal flu.................this Wuhan virus so far is responsible for 36 deaths in the United States. FAR more people have died this year from the yearly flu .................FAR MORE. Yet the media has everyone in a panic. And the fools among us are all outdoing themselves trying to battle something that is irrelevant as far as I'm concerned. This virus is just like THOUSANDS of viruses that have come before it. It will run it's course and die out. Viruses like this have been around since the dawn of time. But I'm sure I've taken up way to much of everyone's time here so I'll let the fools among us get back to their media induced PANIC. That being the individuals who STILL believe the BS the media pushes on them every single day.
  2. AV moving up to 184 lbs next season is a possibility I suppose but frankly I just don't see it happening. He's been at 165 lbs most of his career at ASU. He just moved up to 174 lbs very recently. Plus ASU has Cade Belshay (RS Junior next season) who placed 3rd at this year's PAC 12 tournament as well as Austin Clayton (RS Junior next season) and Zane Coleman (RS Freshman next season) at 184 lbs. I just don't see the need for him to move up to 184 lbs for his sixth year at ASU. I could easily see the ASU lineup for 2020-2021 being the following tho: 125 - Brandon Courtney - RS Junior (2020 PAC 12 Champ at 125) OR Nick Raimo - RS Freshman (14-2 as a RS in 2020) 133 - Josiah Kline - RS Junior (2019 ASU Starter at 133) OR Brandon Courtney - RS Junior (2020 PAC 12 Champ at 125) 141 - Julian Chlebove - RS Freshman OR Josiah Kline - RS Junior (2019 ASU Starter at 133) 149 - Cory Crooks - RS Senior (ASU Starter at 141 lbs in 2020) OR Navonte Demison - RS Junior OR Dillon Ulrey - RS Senior 157 - Jacori Teemer - RS Sophomore (2020 PAC 12 Champ at 157 lbs) 165 - Trey Munoz - RS Freshman OR an as yet unmamed transfer addition to ASU for 2021 174 - Anthony Valencia - RS Senior (2020 PAC 12 Champ at 174 lbs) 184 - Cade Belshay - RS Junior (3rd at 2020 PAC 12 tournament at 184 lbs) 197 - Kordell Norfleet - RS Junior or 4th year Senior? (2020 PAC 12 Champ at 197 lbs) 285 - Cohlton Schultz - RS Freshman
  3. I agree Courtney moving up to 133 lbs is a very real possibility. I don't agree so much on Munoz at 174 lbs and Anthony V moving up to 184. But it's also a possibility. The problem with that is Arizona State has nobody at 165 lbs that I know of to date. Maybe they have a transfer coming in for next season I'm just not aware of but somebody has to compete for them next season at 165 lbs. And yes Schultz will almost certainly be taking over at 285 next season for ASU but I wasn't listing everyone here. I was simply listing those who competed at the 2020 PAC 12 tournament who are likely returning next season. And I mentioned possible/likely replacements for some of those returning starters here.
  4. In other words 8 of the 10 PAC 12 champions this year were underclassmen. The two who were Seniors in 2020 were Tanner Hall (285 lbs) of Arizona State and Russell Rohlfing (149 lbs) of CS Bakersfield.
  5. 2020-2021 PAC 12 RETURNING PLACE WINNERS FROM 2020 PAC 12 TOURNAMENT 125 lbs 1. Brandon Courtney (Arizona State) - 2021 RS Junior 2. Jackson DiSario (Stanford) - 2021 True Sophomore 3. Brandon Kaylor (Oregon State) - 2021 RS Sophomore 4. Alex Hernandez-Figueroa (CS Bakersfield) - 2021 RS Senior - However he may be replaced by 2021 RS Sophomore Eddie Flores (who redshirted in 2020) 5. Jaydn Carson (Little Rock) - 2021 True Sophomore 6. Benny Martinez (Cal Poly) - 2021 True Junior - Will likely be replaced by Antonio Lorenzo - 2021 RS Freshman who went 17-5 while being RS'd 133 lbs 1. Devan Turner (Oregon State) - 2021 RS Senior 2. Paul Bianchi (Little Rock) - 2021 RS Senior 4. Chance Rich (CS Bakersfield) - 2021 RS Sophomore 5. Cole Reyes (Cal Poly) 2021 True Sophomore 141 lbs 1. Real Woods (Stanford) - 2021 RS Sophomore 2. Grant Willits (Oregon State) - 2021 RS Junior 3. Cory Crooks (Arizona State) - 20201 RS SR - He may be replaced by RS Freshman Julian Chlebove 4. Conner Ward (Little Rock) - 2021 RS Sophomore 5. Angelo Martinoni (CS Bakersfield) - 2021 RS Sophomore 6. Jake Ryan (Cal Poly) - 2021 RS Sophomore 149 lbs 2. Requir van der Merwe (Stanford) - 2021 RS Senior - He may be replaced by RS Freshman Jaden Abas. 5. Lane Stigall (Oregon State) - 2021 RS Junior 6. Tyler Brennan (Little Rock) - 2021 True Sophomore 157 lbs 1. Jacori Teemer (Arizona State) - 2021 RS Sophomore 2. Tyler Eischens (Stanford) - 2021 RS Sophomore 4. Brawley Lamer (Cal Poly) - 2021 RS Junior 5. Jose Champagne (Little Rock) - 2021 RS Senior 6. Logan Meek (Oregon State) - 2021 RS Sophomore - However he will likely be replaced by 2021 RS Junior Hunter Willits. 165 lbs 1. Shane Griffith (Stanford) - 2021 RS Sophomore 3. Bernie Truax (Cal Poly) - 2021 RS Sophomore 5. Aaron Olmos (Oregon State) - 2021 RS Junior 6. Will Edgar (Little Rock) - 2021 True Sophomore 174 lbs 1. Anthony Valencia (Arizona State) - 2021 RS Senior 2. Jared Hill (Stanford) - 2021 RS Senior 3. Jackson McKinney (Oregon State) - 2021 RS Sophomore 4. Dylan Miracle (Cal Poly) - 2021 RS Junior 5. Albert Urias (CS Bakersfield) - 2021 RS Sophomore 6. Tristan Tadeo (Little Rock) - 2021 True Sophomore 184 lbs 1. Josh Loomer (CS Bakersfield) - 2021 RS Junior 2. Colt Doyle (Oregon State) - 2021 RS Senior 3. Cade Belshay (Arizona State) - 2021 RS Junior 4. Foster Karmon (Stanford) - 2021 RS Sophomore - He will likely be replaced by RS Junior Judah Duhm (who RS'd in 2020) 5. Matt Muller (Little Rock) - 2021 True Sophomore 6. Trent Tracy (Cal Poly) - 2021 True Sophomore - He may be replaced by RS Senior Matt Wilhelm 197 lbs 1. Kordell Norfleet (Arizona State) - 2021 RS Junior or True Senior? 2. Nathan Traxler (Stanford) - 2021 RS Senior 4. J. J. Dixon (Oregon State) - 2021 RS Sophomore 5. Dylan Johnson (Little Rock) - 2021 RS Senior 285 lbs 3. Jarrod Snyder (CS Bakersfield) - 2021 RS Seniior 4. Sam Aguilar (Cal Poly) - 2021 RS Junior 5. Jamarcus Grant (Oregon State) - 2021 RS Senior
  6. Not trying to offend here but what you wrote here is a bit ridiculous. Especially in light of the fact that Zalesky brought Oregon State FIVE STRAIGHT Pac 12 wrestling championships (2012, 2013, 2014, 2015 and 2016) and seven PAC 12 wrestling championships since 2006. One of which was in his 2nd year at Oregon State (2007) and the other was in 2010. His wrestling teams at Oregon State have been "flat" for the last three or four years. But to say it's been "flat the whole time" is absurd. It is also no coincidence that they went "flat" after Troy Steiner left the Oregon State program to take the head coaching job at Fresno State after the 2016 season. It's also no coincidence that 2016 was the last time Oregon State won the PAC 12 in wrestling.
  7. Absolutely the right decision. I would have to believe that Fresno State's head coach, Troy Steiner, would be the # 1 candidate.
  8. There could have been two other true second matches - at 133 lbs Bianchi vs. Kramer and at 174 lbs Hill vs. McKinney. However those two weight classes had only one allotment so there was no point in having them wrestle off - other than pride.
  9. Links to mat 1 and mat 2 are now up (again) Mat One Mat Two
  10. I guess I also should have mentioned that Cal Poly has ZERO finalists. Yet the Mustangs are only 2 1/2 points behind Oregon State in the team standings at this point Oregon State - 81.5 points Cal Poly - 79 points
  11. Hard to not root for the guy who is undefeated.
  12. https://s3.amazonaws.com/sidearm.sites/asu.sidearmsports.com/documents/2020/3/6/2020_Pac_12_Brackets.pdf I just printed the brackets and filled them in as the tournament went along.
  13. Hard as it may be for some to believe Stanford actually has more finalists than Arizona State at the 2020 PAC 12 wrestling tournament. In fact Stanford has 8 of their 10 guys in the finals and Arizona State has only 6. Oregon State has 3 finalists and CS Bakersfield has 2 and Little Rock has 1. Yet Arizona State leads in the team scores after the first three rounds. All six of the Arizona State finalists will face a Stanford opponent in the finals. And Arizona State COULD win all six of those matches. Or five of six if Sheilds loses to Griffith again. 2020 PAC 12 FINALISTS Stanford - (EIGHT) - Di Sario (125) - Woods (141) - van der Merwe (149) - Eischens (157) - Griffith (165) - Hill (174) - Traxler (197) - Showunmi (285) Arizona State - (SIX) - Courtney (125) - Teemer (157) - Shields (165) - A. Valencia (174) - Norfleet (197) - Hall (285) Oregon State - (THREE) - Turner (133) - Willits (141) - Doyle (184) CS Bakersfield - (TWO) - Rohlfing (149) - Loomer (184) Little Rock - (ONE) - Bianchi (133) 125 lbs - Courtney (ASU) vs. Di Sario (Stanford) 133 lbs - Turner (OSU) vs. Bianchi (Little Rock) 141 lbs - Real Woods (Stanford) vs. Grant Willits (OSU) 149 lbs - Require van der Merwe (Stanford) vs. Russell Rohlfing (CSB) 157 lbs - Jacori Teemer (ASU) vs. Tyler Eischens (Stanford) 165 lbs - Shane Griffith (Stanford) vs. Josh Shields (ASU) 174 lbs - Anthony Valencia (ASU) vs. Jared Hill (Stanford 184 lbs - Colt Doyle (OSU) vs. Josh Loomer (CSB) 197 lbs - Kordell Norfleet (ASU) vs. Nathan Traxler (Stanford) 285 lbs - Tanner Hall (ASU) vs. David Showunmi (Stanford) P.S. And one of the Stanford 10 starters (Gabe Townsell at 133 lbs) had to forfeit out of the tournament. The only other Stanford starter who didn't make the finals was Foster Karmon who moved up a weight from 174 lbs to 184 lbs and Karmon will also have an Arizona State opponent when he competes for 3rd place at 184 lbs vs. Cade Belshay.
  14. Yep...............no audio AGAIN...................I guess the lesson is if you want something to be done VERY poorly - have Stanford do it.
  15. It also says that " Live results can be found at Pac-12.com/wrestlingchamps" yet I can see nothing on that webpage where you can get live results.
  16. I now have both - but only because I used the links found on the Arizona State website. The links provided on the Stanford website were not working so I closed them down. But so far there is no audio at all - just like their home dual wrestling matches.
  17. I've checked several times lately and with about 20 minutes to go before the start of the 2020 PAC 12 wrestling tournament the webpages for the video of both mats keeps saying " There is no livestream on this channel starting within the next hour. Here's the schedule for the Stanford livestreams." And there are NO WRESTLING live streams scheduled on the schedule.
  18. PROBABLE SECOND ROUND MATCHES 125 lbs Brandon Courtney (ASU) vs. Alex Hernandez-Figueroa (CSB) - Courtney beat Hernandez-Figueroa by MD (14-6) on the 16th of last month. Jackson DiSario (STA) vs. Brandon Kaylor (OSU) - Kaylor beat DiSario 8-7 on the 9th of last month. 133 lbs Devan Turner (OSU) vs. Joshua Kramer (ASU) - Turner beat Kramer 5-4 on Jan. 17th. Gabriel Townsell (STA) vs. Paul Bianchi (LRU) - These two did not wrestle each other this season. Common opponents - Joshua Kramer (ASU) Townsell beat Kramer by FALL in SV OT # 1 in 7:38. Bianchi beat Kramer 8-6. Devan Turner (OSU) Townsell lost 10-4 in SV OT # 1 vs Turner and Bianchi lost 8-6 vs. Turner. 141 lbs Real Woods (STA) vs. Connor Ward (LRU) - These two also did not wrestle each other this season. Common opponent - Grant Willits (OSU) - Woods beat Willits by MD (9-1) and Ward lost by MD (10-0) vs. Willits Grant Willits (OSU) vs. Angelo Martinoni (CSB) - Willits beat Martinoni by MD (12-2) on Feb. 7th. 149 lbs Russell Rohlfing (CSB) vs. Josh Maruca (ASU) OR Tyler Brennan (LRU) - Rohlfing and Maruca did not face each other this season however Maruca beat Rohlfing twice last season (10-5 at the 2019 PAC 12 tournament and 5-2 in the 2019 PAC 12 dual). Rohlfing beat Brennan by MD (9-1) on January 1st. Requir van der Merwe (STA) vs. Joshy Cortez (CPU) OR Lane Stigall (OSU) - Merwe lost 8-2 vs. Stigall on the 9th of last month. When Merwe was injured Cortez lost 3-1 to Merwe's replacement in the Stanford vs Cal Poly dual (Sihavong) 157 lbs Jacori Teemer (ASU) vs. Brawley Lamer (CPU) - Teemer beat Lamer by MD (12-4) on the 15th of last month Tyler Eischens (STA) vs. Wyatt Gerl (CSB) - Eischens and Gerl split two matches this season. Gerl won the first match 4-2 on Nov. 24th of last year and Eischens won the rematch 3-2 on the 8th of last month. 165 lbs Shane Griffith (STA) vs. Jacob Thalin (CSB) OR Aaron Olmos (OSU) - Griffith beat Thalin by MD (13-4) on Feb. 8th this season and Griffith beat Olmos by FALL in 6:23 the very next day (Feb. 9th). Joshua Shields (ASU) vs. Bernie Truax (CPU) - Shields beat Truax 7-3 on the 15th of last month 174 lbs Anthony Valencia (ASU) vs. Jackson McKinney (OSU) - Valencia beat McKinney by TF (20-4 in 5:58 on January 17th this year. Jared Hill (STA) vs. Albert Urias (CSB) - They did not face each other this season however Urias lost 8-3 vs. Hill's Stanford teammate (Foster Karmon) 184 lbs Colt Doyle (OSU) vs. Cade Belshay (ASU) - These two did not wrestle each other this season. No common opponents either as Belshay competed mainly at 197 lbs this season (only 2 matches at 184 lbs total). Josh Loomer (CSB) vs. Trent Tracy (CPU) OR Foster Karmon (STA) - Loomer did not face either of these two this season. Common opponents - Loomer beat Doyle of OSU by MD (12-4) this season and Tracy lost 9-3 vs. Doyle. 197 lbs Kordell Norfleet (ASU) vs. J. J. Dixon (OSU) - Norfleet beat Dixon 9-6 on the 17th of January Nathan Traxler (STA) vs. Thomas Lane (CPU) - Traxler and Lane did not wrestle each other this season however they have had three matches in 2019 and 2018. Traxler won all three (6-5 at the 2019 PAC 12 tournamet, 5-4 in the 2019 Cal Poly vs. Stanford dual and 9-3 at the 2018 PAC 12 tournament. 285 lbs Tanner Hall (ASU) vs. Jamarcus Grant (OSU) OR Sam Aguilar (CPU) - Hall beat Grant 7-2 on January 17th but did not face Aguilar this season. Jarrod Snyder (CSB) vs. David Showunmi (STA) - Snyder beat Showunmi 6-5 on Feb. 8th
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