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  1. 9 hours ago, wrestlingshoe said:

    Remember, one of Smith's titles came with one loss. Today, one loss and you may not get another match. 

    Smith was already assured of a spot in the title match before he wrestled that match.


    Could have something to do with it.


  2. I'm rather ashamed of myself not immediately recalling the Mills-Gonzales match....enjoy!     Sneaky Mills and his front headlock arm drag counter...while he made Gonzales tired early by countering his leg attacks and riding. Gonzales was about 50-0 going into the match, with an All Star victory over Mills previously.

     

    For you young whippersnappers who don't know Gene Mills:

    GENE MILLS, Syracuse ’81 can uniquely share his lifetime record since Day 1 as “1356-46-1 with 886 falls,” thereby earning his nickname of “Mean Gene, The Pinning Machine.” His camps and email address are labeled Pin2Win.  Gene was NJ State and HS National champion, Syracuse’s first 4-time wrestling All American and second 2-time NCAA Champion (also 3,4), voted OW in ’81. He ranks Top 2 in career college falls, won three World Cups and was voted OW as World Super Champion and Tbilisi, then Athlete-of-the-Year by the US Olympic Committee, all in the 1980 boycott year.  He’s in the National Wrestling Hall of Fame.

          As one of the sport’s most exciting ever, the OW awards were no accident. In 10 bouts to win NCAAs, Mills had seven falls and won, 17-2; 16-13; 28-4.          His 1979 finals win came vs. Joe Gonzalez, the 1980 champion who won five National Opens and was a 3-time World Top 5. The win avenged a 9-8 loss to Gonzalez in the ’79 All-Star Classic. Gene’s last EIWA championship came by fall over Lehigh’s Bobby Weaver in the only known collegiate battle between Olympic teammates. After assisting mentor, Ed Carlin, as coach for many years, Mills resides in nearby Liverpool, NY, where he runs the Pin2Win Club and camps.

     

     

     

     

     


  3. 1 hour ago, drag it said:

    For argument's sake, I'll stipulate that his third place true freshman NCAA, Final X appearance, and victory over Gwiz in a dual meet make him the most accomplished U.S. heavyweight for his age.  I think that most of the criticisms here don't stem from that; instead, they result from  annoyance over his retirement statements in his tweet and interview, and the way they were done -- which seem to be consistent with the same kind of lack of focus that characterized his disappointing losses to Cassar and his getting entangled in off the mat problems, and which demonstrate why many of us are skeptical that he will come close to turning his considerable skills into Gwiz's career so far, let alone succeed in becoming the best ever.  

    Mocco?


  4. 7 hours ago, doubletrouble said:

    And also remember that Ed Banach went up to 190 the following year and was the 2nd seed in the NCAA...not the #1...

     

    Mike Mann had defeated Banach at least twice previous to the NCAA tournament- and deserved the 1st seed. The dual meet win by Mann vs Banach is one of the great matches in NCAA history, in my opinion. 


  5. Wisconsin is also doing the masks. The masks are considered to be part of the uniform.

    Also, no hand shaking before or after match. But touch each other constantly during the match. LOL

    Wonder how many matches I'll whistle-stop because the mask slides down to a wrestler's throat while he is getting pinned?

     

    To add to that misery,  the refs also wear the masks.

    Refs also to raise color of the winning wrestler, no lifting of arms. 

     

    If you think I'm being lassizfaire about Covid, I'm not. Wife and I had it, and it was brutal. But I see the masks ( for the wrestlers at least) as a problem.

     


  6. On 11/15/2020 at 9:03 PM, AnklePicker said:

    Man Mizzou looked really solid this weekend. O’Toole looks off the charts good. Edmonds is a stud and little Elam is legit and all freshman. Throw in their third champ Mauler who killed Demas in the finals and the future is bright.  Smith might be the most underrated coach in the country. 

    Sadly, another great Wisconsin kid boogies out of state.


  7. On 8/29/2020 at 1:42 PM, TobusRex said:

    I'm still disappointed Howe didn't win at least 2 titles. Chris Perry shut him down cold.

    Howe did a great job considering his Achilles injury. He did reach 4 NCAA semis.

    Not sure what happened in the Jarrod King final.

    Perry was a beast, also. No shame there- that guy could bring it- brutal rider.

     

    But yeah, I wanted him to win a few too.


  8. VO2 can be important- depending upon your style of wrestling.

    My teammate/same weight/opponent on the Badgers- the late Jeff Charland and a 3 time state champ, could run all day and had a VO2 of 5.0 L.  He was lean and mean. He wrestled very controlled matches and could take breaks by riding with the legs.

    Mine was 3.5 L and could not run all day, but was stocky (stockier now). I wrestled chaotically and was constantly winded. Apparently 3.5 is the low side of the average for SEDENTARY ADULT MALES.  Yay.

    Somehow we went 4-4 with each other in matches.

    So how important is VO2, and does it outweigh other "gifts"? 

     

    I understand that Jack Cuvo could run all day, was a college AA in XC, and a two time NCAA champ.THAT's physically gifted in my humble opinion.

     


  9. But what IS physically gifted? A great physique, or ability other than wrestling?

     

    Randy Lewis could do phenomenal things on a trampoline/diving board, not to mention throw from any position.

    Ryan Lord, who wrestled for the Badgers won the 100 and 200 at State in high school track. 

    Laurent Soucie and Sgt Gibson made World Teams in both Freestyle and Greco.

    Russ Hellickson could freakin run ALL DAY- amazing at 220 lbs, and beat at least half of us in the 5 mile run.

    Curley Culp and Steven Neal won the NCAAs AND played NFL. Neal decided to tack on a WC while he was at it.

     

     

     

     

     


  10. 4 hours ago, Jim L said:

    I remember a story about Gibson going through Marine basic training with no intention of continuing his wrestling career and when he broke the record for the obstacle course at 200+lbs, the Marines learned about his wrestling background and got him back wrestling again.  

    Also, He was still at the Olympic Greco Roman trials into his late 40s.

     

    On 8/2/2020 at 11:25 AM, fullnelson said:

    All those mentioned are certainly worthy candidates, but I'll add another who should/would have been the only wrestler in the world to have won 3 World titles in 3 different styles. 

    In 1982 I witnessed Greg Gibson do 30 pull-ups AFTER an hour+ practice. Greg won World Championships in Greco and Sambo, and was royally screwed in 1981 World Freestyle Finals, when he gutted the East German 3x, only to have the mat judges rule 2&2 each time resulting in an 11-10  heartbreaking loss. He and Mark Schultz had the best gutwrenchs in US history imo.

    Not to nit-pick, but Sgt Gibson won a World MILITARY Championship in Greco ( just being clear), and 2nd in the Olympics in Greco. But yes, he was feared throughout the land with his unstoppable gut-wrench. A true specimen of a man.

     

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