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Everything posted by BadgerMon

  1. That's common knowledge, Tobus. But there was no such thing as Fargo- it was The Iowa City Jr Free/Greco Nationals, and it was the tournament of the year.
  2. Eau Contraire, TobusRex. Iowa City Jr Nationals was the $#@! back then- it's what Fargo became because the tournament out-grew the U of Iowa Old Fieldhouse. I drew a guy who was 2nd and 1st in the Ohio State Tournament- and he ended up not placing. Tough! (John McNulty- also a Pan Am Espoir bronze medalist). Rudy Isom beat Kenny one year in the finals-pin I think, maybe Bill Moss (Florida) did in the other. Its possible that Kenny only won it once. Not sure who Kenny wrestled his soph year final, but I'm pretty sure he was a four time finalist at Iowa City. By the way, we didn't have this "Cadet" classification thing going, either. So those of us who were young in class still got to scrap with the older guys- lucky us! It was all Juniors-top of age group was just graduated. For the record, Oklahoma always had large contingents at the big tournaments. You had to make your State team back then to qualify.
  3. Kenny shot out of the blocks famous. He won Iowa City ( now Fargo) as a high school freshman, defeating one of the Whelan boys from Missouri in the finals. I think he didn't win it again until possibly his senior year in high school, with two seconds wedged in between? Also, I wrestled him twice and didn't score an offensive point- teched in freestyle and pinned in collegiate. Kenny ( not by virtue over this hack) was one of the best this country has ever had. Cat quick, dangerous thrower, smooth technician, and dialed in. Nate Carr rained on his parade some, but then again, the Skate was pretty special too.
  4. Agreed. Can't land someone like that legally. Ref blew it.
  5. Run XC- better odds of staying healthy AND think of how your wrestle earns the confidence to kick in that 6th gear after that first lung searing first period.
  6. https://www.amazon.com/Cliff-Keen-Brace-Wrestling-Knee/dp/B0000C47J5/ref=asc_df_B0000C47J5/?tag=hyprod-20&linkCode=df0&hvadid=312075398858&hvpos=1o5&hvnetw=g&hvrand=7374222009673311987&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqmt=&hvdev=c&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=9018947&hvtargid=pla-568930130590&psc=1&tag=&ref=&adgrpid=62138615196&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvadid=312075398858&hvpos=1o5&hvnetw=g&hvrand=7374222009673311987&hvqmt=&hvdev=c&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=9018947&hvtargid=pla-568930130590 https://www.dme-direct.com/shop-by-sport/wrestling/wrestling-knee-braces Try these.
  7. I ref (16 years). Sure...remember the bottom of the scapula counts as part of the "shoulder", and he was pretty much propping up with the elbow on the other side. I'd have made it stick, why not? If its two consecutive strokes, call it 2.
  8. I don't think that you CAN wrestle with a prosthetic limb. Too hard unless padded to the utt. Robles didn't seem to need one.
  9. Andy Rein 2, 6, 1 with Olympic Silver kicker Rick Lawinger 2,1
  10. That Tarpley is one heckuvan entertaining writer.
  11. Joe Williams 7,1,1,1 with 10 US National Freestyle titles.
  12. I can think of some coach's kids who turned out pretty tough. Darren Abel. Kip Kristoff Peery Bros Kyven Gadson David Carr Kennedy and Quincy Monday
  13. Barry Davis 7,1,1,1 made two Olympic teams Randy Lewis 2,1,1, 7 with one arm, made two Olympic teams and one ill-advised gator roll from making a third.
  14. Russ Hellickson told me once that Curly Culp would have crushed him. Of course, Russ was a 190 lber in those days...and Curly was toying with the heavies.
  15. May as well ask the question while here...did the Brands Brothers ever have a go at it in an official match? How did it turn out?
  16. Agreed! Jim Scherr pancaking Khardartsev in 1989 World Cup, at the height of Khardartsev's run...https://www.flowrestling.org/video/5098669-1989-world-cup-jim-scherr-vs-makharbek-khadartsev
  17. Nate didn't red-shirt ( was pretty dominant as a true freshman). http://www.wrestlingstats.com/ncaa/pdf/brackets/NCAA 1980.pdf Eight minute matches in those days 2-3-3.....Lord help you if your opponent chose top in the second and threw the legs in right away. Of course, Gable didn't ascend to varsity status as a freshman due to the rules at the time.
  18. Its a screw job because a: the extra point should never have been awarded b: Lewis wins on criteria anyway and c: even when you win a court case, you still feel like you've just been gutted
  19. Years ago, similar things were going on at Iowa. From what I understand, King Mueller was a returning NCAA bronze medalist and defeated Jimmy Zalesky in wrestle offs, but Gable put him in at 158 anyway, and Jimmy responded with a 5th and 3 titles. https://iwcoa.net/hall-of-fame-2/king-mueller/ Feel free to correct me if I'm wrong. Also, Dean Phinney was a returning NCAA bronze medalist, but Lou Banach unseated him for the job. I imagine that big Lou defeated Dean, but not sure about any scores. From what I've seen and heard from other programs, if the coach wants wrestler A in there, despite what B does, A will get the nod.
  20. You got some guys twice near the bottom of the list
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