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AnklePicker

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  1. HH, Doesn't mean there can't be more.
  2. I've never said I could care less about the team race. In fact I care very much. I just think a dual is a much better determinant of a team.
  3. Luch, Yes of course. Still the duals draw plenty of fans and press coverage that are very powerful for the sport.
  4. Creating the national duals will actually create more honor and prestige to the individuals who win and place at the individual tournament. At the end of the day, wrestling is an individual sport. That day should actually be a focus on the individuals not the team. That's how we do it in NJ and it's packed and the kids get their due that they deserve, not their team or school.
  5. People will still attend the individual tourney in droves. Everyone knows at its heart wrestling is an individual sport. We have a team dual state championship and an indiv tournament with no team score here in NJ. Both are attended well but the individual tournament gets far more fans and not just teammates and parents. It's the main event.
  6. I guess he really didn't specifically disagree with anything in your post so my apologies. What he says in that release from Koll is that he's for giving this a try and the pros of it and possibilities of it far outweigh the risks.
  7. Gable is biased towards the sport of wrestling. I never said let him decide all decisions, just on this particular issue, coach disagrees with Houndedhawk's opinion. Lighten up Francis.
  8. You do realize that NWCA stands for national wrestling coaches assoc. correct. You remind me of the people who try to separate a union from its members. The nwca's board members are the coaches! The attitude Cael and Brands have taken is to do what is best for their teams not necessarily what is best for the sport. I don't really blame them for that but it is what it is. The duals don't stand a chance unless they are a true national duals. To try to oppose this based on past nat duals is not acknowledging that without a full participation there can be no accurate data.
  9. Luchador, Martin floreani at flo has said that in fact according to his websites traffic the fans do indeed like the duals. They don't need a packed house to be successful. That's an outdated model. What they need is a bunch of people to watch and follow the surroundings of the tournament. I won't fly to watch the national duals final but you can be sure I'll be following every march leading up and will watch it live on espn.
  10. Also how many team's fans travel to the NCAA tournament the way it is with the expectation that their team has a shot at the NCAA title? I'd guess 5 at best.
  11. IMO it comes down to whether you think the individual tournament or a dual meet determines the better team. That's the heart of the argument. As a high school coach for the last 12 years in a state that has duals decide the team championship, I without question fall on the side of the dual meet format. This becomes very obvious when a team with 2 or 3 very good wrestlers place in the top ten at the NCAAs. That's not a good representation of a team. It's a representation of three great individuals. Wrestling fans know that at the heart of wrestling it is an individual sport. That will never change. Here in NJ our dual state tournament is very popular (think over 4000 showed up) but the individual tournament is still the main event because that's what wrestling is all about, mano y mano. The duals just provide a whole extra dimension to the sport to both compete in and cheer for. It allows each and every guy on the team to bear responsibility for their team's victory. Not getting pinned or getting that bonus. IMO it's a huge part of the fun of the sport. Even if you know you aren't going to be an all American you can still be a champion as part of a team. The individual tournament will still rule, but the team duals will be lots of fun and they are a much better determinant of a team.
  12. Agreed but what truly is the argument against it? Is it traditional? If so I get that I guess but this idea that it has been tried before to me is disingenuous. It has never held any true weight whatsoever. To me that's obvious. Even if every team in the nation attended but the NCAA team title wasn't on the line it wouldn't be the same. When the team title is on the line...the drama will ensue.
  13. Now you're starting to sound like a conspiracy theorist. NO ONE involved at any level of wrestling would consider getting rid of the individual aspect of our sport. The great part is to make the sport more fan friendly and be considered a team sport with the ability to be offered at the high school and collegiate level, the powers that be created the dual meet format. The dual meet format could be the team aspect of the sport. It only makes sense to have a dual meet under lights determine the TEAM champion. Any argument that it's already been tried at the prior national duals is disingenuous. With nothing on the line it never stood a chance. With a true team title on the line it will be awesome. Can't wait!!!!
  14. So they would rather save money than make a profit? Yeah that makes sense.
  15. Luchador, Are you saying when the national dual final goes down on espn you won't be watching? I have a feeling you'll be glued to the screen regardless who's in it.
  16. No difference at all. The drama of duals remains the same. Duals are the true test of TEAM strength. I've always found it ridiculous to crown the team champs from the individual tournament. One of the great things about wrestling is the team and indiv. aspects of it. When you think of the team part you certainly think about dual meets. Thus the team championship should be decided by a dual.
  17. We have this exact same format here in NJ. Dual state championships that crown the team titles and an individual state tournament that crowns the individual champs with no team score calculated. I'm quite certain each and every year the cream of the crop rises to the top in both formats. Both events are very well attended and both carry not only a ton of excitement but also drama. Here is a picture from last year's dual state final. This is what a team championship looks like.
  18. Dr.White, I saw an interview with Mike Novogratz wherein he stated he would be happy to cut a $250000 check to every one of our Wrestling Olympians. Novogratz runs a multi billion dollar hedge fund. I don't think the funding has anything to worry about so long as Mr. Novogratz is on board. The wrestling community needs to do more to thank Mr. Novogratz and anyone else who contributes heavily to this fund. Can you imagine, Olympic gold, $250000 and then your pick of phenomenally hot athletes that you can take back to your Olympic village room all in one night!
  19. I'll admit that at one point I got a kick out of rubbing the CA contingent a bit about Varner always being the bridesmaid to Mike Pucillo who if I remember correctly had beaten Varner in the senior national and NCAA finals. Well I've kept my mouth shut since that point because Jake has been on a tear ever since. Outstanding performances and decision making in his career. Finishing out his commitment to ISU then heading east to make a run at the Olympics with Cael worked out perfectly. Hats off to Varner! I do worry because he's reached the pinnacle that he will call it quits. That weight is nails and everything fell into place perfectly for Jake. I'm of the belief that on any given day Jake can beat every guy who was in that weight but the same could be said for about 6 guys in the weight. He has shown that he can wrestle smart in the biggest matches and not just this year, let's not forget he was third last year. We really need guys like Jake to stick around for the love of competition. He's getting a little cash from the Living the Dream fund so hopefully that will afford him the opportunity to continue competing. Congrats to Varner in hopes that this isn't indeed the last laugh and that there is much more to come!
  20. I'll admit that at one point I got a kick out of rubbing the CA contingent a bit about Varner always being the bridesmaid to Mike Pucillo who if I remember correctly had beaten Varner in the senior national and NCAA finals. Well I've kept my mouth shut since that point because Jake has been on a tear ever since. Outstanding performances and decision making in his career. Finishing out his commitment to ISU then heading east to make a run at the Olympics with Cael worked out perfectly. Hats off to Varner! I do worry because he's reached the pinnacle that he will call it quits. That weight is nails and everything fell into place perfectly for Jake. I'm of the belief that on any given day Jake can beat every guy who was in that weight but the same could be said for about 6 guys in the weight. He has shown that he can wrestle smart in the biggest matches and not just this year, let's not forget he was third last year. We really need guys like Jake to stick around for the love of competition. He's getting a little cash from the Living the Dream fund so hopefully that will afford him the opportunity to continue competing. Congrats to Varner in hopes that this isn't indeed the last laugh and that there is much more to come!
  21. Tirapell, I just read this interesting piece from Bobby Douglas who had written it right after the 2011 ncaas. It advocates a push out and I think his second idea about a point for exposure has merit as well. http://www.thewrestlinggreats.com/meet- ... ider-This/
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