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Posts posted by Tofurky

  1. Went to Swananoa/Asheville three years ago this weekend for a pal's wedding, and that area changed my life for the better. I visited Chimney Rock and Lake Lure while in town, and immediately knew that was the spot for me. (I understand the waterfall scene in "Last of The Mohicans" was filmed at Chimney Rock, and I understand why) As others have said, it's a great place, and sitting at the feet of those mountains... maaaaaannnnnnn... absolutely stunning.

    For me, I've lived almost my entire life in and within an hour of Chicago. We have nothing like that around here. If it weren't 10-plus hours from me one way, I'd be back there more often.

  2. Good for Pat and good luck to him.

    He's a less intelligent Chael Sonnen, in that he is his own hype machine, just not as savvy. If he starts off with a pretty good record, on top of having been an NJCAA Champ, a D1 All-American, and a World Team Member, he could make a name for himself somewhat quickly.

    While I was never a fan of his mouth, he was a much better wrestler than most people here give him credit for being.

  3. 1 hour ago, bnwtwg said:

    Absolutely bigger on a global scale than American football, but rugby sevens is growing exponentially in the US because of the scoring, pace of game, and short game time (two 7 minute halves) but there is still the violence factor without being bogged down like 15s. Carlin Isles and Perry Baker are huge homeruns for the national team and their highlight tapes+backgrounds were big wins and folks should check them out.

    Exponentially? Havibg played 7s for the the majority of the time I played, I am going to suggest that the size was so small to begin with that the growth seems huge.

    Youth rugby still focuses on 15s. Collegiate rugby still focuses on 15s. National team rugby is focused on 15s. Rugby weekend here in Chicago? 15s. Sevens remains a summer sport that the most dedicated backs and eight men play between fall and spring seasons. Hong Kong 7s and Vegas 7s are nice, but you couldn't fill any major stadium in the U.S. with that. 15s is still king and will be for quite a while.

    Speaking of 7s, you want to talk about "pace of game and short game time", did you see Ben Ryan's (Fiji 7s, England 7s) attempt at launching RugbyX this past fall? If not, look it up on YouTube. If he can somehow get that together without changing rules AFTER the tournament had already begun, that could be even more impactful.

    Isles and Baker are track stars with a rugby ball. There's very good reason neither one of them is on the U.S.A. 15s team, because they are one way players who thrive in open pitch play.

    That said, I do not discourage anyone from checking out any rugby. FloSports even has FloRugby. It's okay.

  4. 6 hours ago, bnwtwg said:

    Also, they have an inside edge on rugby, which is most likely going to overtake football in our lifetimes as the premier tackling sport of choice

    I'd argue that rugby is already bigger globally.

    I'm 45 now, I played rugby competitively for more than a decade, and I even play the two hand touch variety at least once a week, as well as help my oldest's team when times are "normal". That said, I don't see the U.S. embracing rugby the way it has football in my lifetime. U.S. fans love and promote the violence the game promotes. The NFL, college football, and youth football are institutionalized parts of American culture that will last for another generation beyond me, I suspect, though I wish otherwise.

  5. On 7/16/2020 at 10:29 AM, RichB said:

    Interesting that Men's Rugby is #1 and women's Rugby not mentioned.

    Side note Football family includes three Genera Gridiron Football, Rugby type Football, Soccer Football

    Species within the genera:


    12 person-- Canadian

    11 Person-  Standard USA

    9 Person

    8 Person

    6 Perspn

    Flag or Touch




    Rugby type

    15 person

    7 person

    Australian Rules

    Irish Rules



    Soccer type

    11 person full size pitch

    fewer persons and smaller pitch




    For rugby, Union is 15-a-side, while League (nowhere near as popular or common as Union) is 13-a-side. You'll also have folks playing 10s, when they can't scratch up 15 per team, but have more than 7-a-side.

  6. 8 hours ago, Coach_J said:

    "Wrestling Room All-American."  Guy who can beat everyone in practice but when you take the mat out in the gym in front of a crowd just can't get it done; he loses to opponents the guys he beats in the wrestling have or would have beaten.

    I've known more than a few of these guys in my time as a coach. It's sad to watch.

  7. 5 hours ago, Major Kong said:

    Is an American the NZ team member?

    For last year's Oceanic Championships, New Zealand had three entries, all having competed for NZ during their entire (though two only have two tournaments under their proverbial belts) careers. 

    That said, I just watched some YouTube videos from "Wrestling NZ Championships 2019" and it left a lot to be desired. It is what it is in a nation that doesn't embrace the sport.

  8. 40 minutes ago, pamela said:

    When George angrily quit his job and just showed up to work the next day like nothing happened. lol

    I'll admit it, I was never a big fan of Seinfeld. I know, I know; go on, boo birds.

    That said, it sounds as though Larry took that same concept and opened a recent movie with that scenario. I know I didn't watch the whole thing, but I'll find it and post the name. The concept is hilarious.

  9. I'll say this about Flo: since Martin started the site as a really odd fanboy however long ago, their staff focus has been on only what they consider to be "elite" wrestling content. They provide excellent material, without question, but it's based on the fanboy arrogance of the staff (and there is enough fanboy arrogance within that staff to fill the University of Michigan football stadium).

    That said, I have experienced first hand that if you publicly call out specific staff members on forums or social media, but back it up with reasonable arguments, they do respond. I did this with Willie and NJCAA wrestling here a few years back. I will not claim that I was the only person proverbially beating that drum, but I know it didn't hurt. At that time, they were prioritizing pre-high school youth wrestling more than any level of college wrestling that wasn't Division I. Whether the people at Flo saw it as opportunity for more subscribers or just that it was the right thing to do, I don't know. What I do know os that they listened and adjusted.

    That said, I go to Flo's site once every few months anymore, as most of the personalities are self-absorbed (there and here), and the content is lacking, especially when they don't cover things that they don't come up with. As if wrestling isn't far enough on the fringe to start, we need the infighting, too? 

    Rudis does a great job of making women a priority through their social media marketing, to include technique videos I faithfully watch when they post them. As a father of two girls, I don't know if I can ever back this enough.

  10. 14 hours ago, CoachWrestling said:

    So apparently Downey threatened to beat up Sarah Hildegrandt on Twitter, Downey apparently was asking for nude pictures from women, and Nomad was asking female wrestlers for bikini pics. This has been a crazy weekend for wrestling gossip. This is all allegations at this point. 

    Is that the sound of the sport feeding into stereotypes and eating itself alive? Ugh...

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