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  1. Medicine Man for the win... again!
  2. No way! That fantasy film is the the fictionalized version of the 2016 documentary, "The 24-Hour War". The latter is far superior story about those events, featuring the people who were involved in those historic events. Also, how about the following?: "Win Win" "Reversal" "Karate Kid" (original) "Cobra Kai" (YouTube follow-up to the original "Karate Kid") "Breaking Away" (cycling) "Wrestle" (streaming on some platform; there'sa thread here about it) Amazon has a documentary about Lee Kemp. "The Sandlot" "Bull Durham" The Netflix series "Losers" - REALLY good! ESPN "30 for 30" shows are usually good.
  3. I'm not a very big at all of this channel, but I admit I fell for the clickbait. Does anyone else know more or have anything to add about this story? I watched the video, then thought, "huh..." and here we are.
  4. I saw the film back in the fall and I echo most of what is stated here: nice film, the level of wrestling left a lot to be desired, the coach was a throwback to an era that we all thought was gone, and the film maker could have made qualifying a little less confusing to the viewer. All in all, good human interest stories with wrestling as the vehicle.
  5. If I might ask, how old are you? It's a serious question.
  6. To your point about Cornell and UNI (I said Mark Scwab, when obviously I meant Doug), that is why I said "recent". Like you, I'm aware of that past success, but it was long ago in both cases. About Cornell and Princeton, they certainly do have the Ivy side of the university with unquestioned academic prestige. It's only been within the last 25 years that we've seen the Ivies, Stanfords, Northwesterns, really thrive. That is why I would think a place such as NIU would be able to attract a coach who would be able to leverage to multiple top 100 recruits each year, most of whom are not admissible to those top end academic institutions of higher learning, the ability to not only be admitted to and compete for a Division I university and program, but earn great, competitive degrees in many different fields such as education, business, journalism, computer science, engineering, etc. I can't argue with NIU not having the prestige of being an Ivy or being in the B10/B12, but that hasn't stopped places like Edinboro, Central Michigan, NC State, and another 10 or so programs from not being those very things. Hofstra in the Tom Ryan days would be another good example to add to the list of, "Yeah, it can be done and it can be done here!" As to Kolat, he's a force, but coaching success hasn't been a guarantee for him at every step of his coaching career. He was named in a few program head coach opportunities before Campbell, if I remember correctly. One other aspect that I've talked about for many years is NIU's inability to produce homegrown talent. They haven't had an All-American from Illinois since 1975, let alone an All-American in the program since 2004, when Scott Owen (New Mexico, fifth) and Ben Heizer (Texas. Runner-up) made the stand and finals, respectively. Here is my last statement and question: if none of his guys make the stand this year, that will make all nine seasons with Ludwig as head coach (15 total with the program) with zero All-Americans in his time there. When is it okay to say that the same old same old is not okay anymore and it's time for change?
  7. Coach J, as someone who lived there, you're correct in that NIU/DeKalb not being a destination. However, that didn't deter Rob Koll at Cornell, Mark Scwab at UNI, Tony Ersland at Purdue, Mark Branch at Wyoming, Cary Kolat at Campbell, Chris Ayers at Princeton, among quite a few others, who took programs with no real recent history of sustained success in areas (except Princeton; Cedar Falls is slightly smaller than DeKalb, population-wise) and turned them into perennial top 25 mainstays. DeKalb is roughly an hour directly west from where I am sitting right now in Oak Park, and I am 15 minutes off of Lake Michigan with zero traffic (so we're talking 3:30 a.m.). DeKalb isn't the middle of nowhere. It's now being considered a far suburb of the third largest city in the United States; one that was vying for the Summer Olympic Games only a decade ago. This isn't a university in rural Mississippi. It has a ton going for it, except leadership. As to the success of the guys who leave, there are too many reasons to know why they didn't pan out, but it could be that NIU was the right size for their abilities, as has been eluded.
  8. Unpopular opinion to follow. As an alum, I'm not as excited about NIU's program as others may be. This is Ludwig's ninth season as head coach. NIU's finishes at the MAC tournament in his time leading the program have gone as follows: 5, 5, 8, 7, 6, 5, 8, 6, 3, finishing in third place this year more than 30 points behind second place CMU. (the conference also expanded from eight to 15 teams starting this season) The Huskies finishes at Nationals in Ludwig's tenure have gone as follows: 64, 41, 53, 67, 50, 30, 48, and 56, with this year to be determined. Their schedule is weak, which included duals against NJCAA and D2 programs. I feel as though Ludwig and company are being lauded for results that are slightly less mediocre than they have been in the past. I know many NIU alumni who are still sour that the athletics administration didn't open up the position after Dave Grant stepped down, instead choosing a direct hand-off to Ludwig. By not opening the position or courting coaching candidates, it was a huge missed opportunity for that program, in a massively rich wrestling state and region, to start knocking on the door of being a potential top 20 to top 25 program on a regular basis.
  9. I hope he's healthy. I want to see the young man compete and do his best with no excuses from his dad, his grandpa, his dad's and grandpa's friends, his dog, or anyone.
  10. Is it bad that when I read his quotes, I read them as if he speaks English with Yoel Romero's voice and accent?
  11. I can see you making that argument, but Iowa Central were the team to beat in the NJCAA during that mid-'00s era and were regularly loaded with former D1 prospects and guys who ended up going D1. They also have a great coaching staff. Had JJ been at (the now defunct) Darton program in southern Georgia, I'd be right there with you, but he was in the best JuCo program in the country at that time. Jones going there, and ICCC having a roster that spans nearly all 50 states, is no mistake. As to your comparison with Ed Ruth... we will never know, but I don't see it.
  12. The video of the Backes-Jones match is gone. I saw it two to three times when it was around years ago. The final was 8-3 with Jones never threatening Backes. https://cyclones.com/news/2006/11/15/684743.aspx - in case anyone wanted to confirm the score. Jones would have never made the finals at NCAA D1.
  13. My two cents: Jon Jones wasn't going to win an NCAA D1 title. He wrestled Kurt Backes of Iowa State the year he was JuCo champ and was not on Backes's level in any sense of the word. Jones was good, and if his focus was in the right place, and he was in the right program, he could have been a one, maybe two-time mid- to low-AA place winner.
  14. I coached in the NJCAA for some years within the last decade and here are some things I found: - Most of the guys who are there are there because academics is not their priority. - That being said, anymore, if you have aspirations of wrestling in the NCAA, you've done enough to pass the Clearinghouse right out of high school. - The level of competition in D3, D2, and NAIA from when I graduated high school nearly 30 years ago is drastically improved as D1 optuons have decreased. - With that last statement, for as many of the gains made by programs on those three levels, D1 is that much tougher, too. - The amount of kids coming to the NJCAA from D1 are small. The number of kids going from NJCAA to D1 is a very small fraction of those guys.
  15. Nosomy Pozo left NIACC and went to Oklahoma for one season. I believe he was redshirting. Either way, he went back south east towards Florida, from where he hails, and wrestled NAIA for Life U in Georgia. Pozo's high school and NJCAA teammate was also a two-time champ for NIACC at the same time and stayed at Oklahoma. I don't know if he qualified for them, but he started for at least a bit.
  16. Don't forget about two-time NJCAA champ (whom I believe pinned Tab Thacker for his second title), Tommy Erikson, from the mighty Triton Trojans in near west suburban Chicago. He was a two-time AA for the Pokes in '85 and '86, I believe.
  17. No, sir, but if you head south and west to a little town called Tempe in Arizona, you just might find your shangrila.
  18. https://www.flowrestling.org/video/5501395-tim-flynn--headlocks-are-a-way-of-lifemov Easily my favorite.
  19. Nope, you are right. It was Max's junior year (I was helping out at Lane that year, having coached there some years prior to that) and he made the finals of the Lincoln tournament against Joey Kielbasa from Crystal Lake (I believe). Both were returning state champs and met in the finals at 145, I believe. Either way, when on top, Kielbasa kept throwing in the boots and going power half on the shoulder where Max was wearing a brace from an injury that happened the previous summer. Max, after a lot of injury time during that match, ended up being pinned by Kielbasa, I believe. Long story short, Max re-tore his labrum in that shoulder during that match and was out the rest of his junior season, except for Regionals. He wrestled there to help Lane win and go on to team sectionals. College was 100% the hamstring when he was at Cal Poly.
  20. Zero dispute; I was merely sharing a story directly related to this topic of a fairly recent match I viewed purposefully. That said, it was just one match. Similarly, two to three years ago, Lehigh's 157 or 165 was a three-time champ in the NCWA (aka club teams) from Central Florida U., I believe. He was pretty good and a qualifier his one year in the valley.
  21. In 2012, the team I was coaching with was at the UW-Parkside tournament. It's a great tournament that draws some really solid D1, D2, D3, AND NJCAA talent. Anyway, Jason Tsirtsis, as a true freshman, makes the finals at 141 against the returning D3 runner-up at 133. For as talented as the D3 kid was (he was a three-time All-American, including that 2012-13 year), Tsirtsis nearly teched him by the end of the second period. I kept our team back to watch the match, and by the middle of the second period they didn't want to see anymore. It was not an even match, to say the least. Elmhurst College and Coach Steve Marianetti have had a few D1 blood round guys win titles for them. Their names are Mike Benefiel (Oklahoma State) and Ryan Prater (llinois). Even one of their non-transfer guys was a three-time D3 AA, but placed at Midlands twice and has been a US Greco team member for some time now.
  22. I feel as though this post's last paragraph should have stated, "Please see the attached resume. References available upon reuqest."
  23. That might happen at the top programs, but not the average program. There was a local kid here who was three-time state champ, a Dapper Dan winner, then a part-time starter for Oklahoma as a true Freshman, making his way into the top 15. He left after that years, then was an All-American in D3 a few years later while weighing six pounds less than the weight class he was at. When asked the difference between two, he said, "depth."
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