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  1. We already know Ivy League wrestlers take time off. We see if every year. I can think of instances from Cornell, Princeton, Brown, Columbia, Harvard, and Penn. That’s why we have the term grey shirt. That’s why there is so much talk about TC3, a community college, that dropped wrestling 15 years ago, on these boards. And there is even more justification now to take the time off with so much remote instruction.
  2. I expect a lot of kids to take the spring semester off.
  3. Stanford's internal policies for endowments calls for a target withdrawal rate of 5.5% but the actual payout varies based on fund performance. https://fingate.stanford.edu/managing-funds/endowments
  4. I thought I had heard Idaho plays summer baseball too.
  5. No tournaments. Dual only schedule is the goal.
  6. This is the same rule that was applies to spring sports. seniors (who were expected to exhaust their eligibility but who are now given another year with everyone else) will not count against the scholarship limit if they return to the program. If they go to a new school they count against the limit. this was done so that coaches wouldn’t have to decide between pulling seniors scholarships or pulling incoming recruits scholarships to stay under the scholarship limit. however, this doesn’t mean schools will do it. Because the schools have to come up with the money and most athletic departments are cutting spending and this would require increasing spending. Even some of the bigger name baseball schools have said they won’t be expanding their scholarship budgets to fund seniors returning on scholarship. Seniors are able to return as walk-one if they like.
  7. The President who recently added Wrestling at Fresno State (Joseph Castro) was recently appointed Chancellor of the California State University System but I believe is still the President at Fresno State. So it would appear that he would have to be discontinuing the program he just started.
  8. That's not how they sunset programs. They do a teach out. Which simply means they stop accepting students into a program and then the program ends when the students in the program have completed their progress. So basically it is typically over four years they phase out the program. And yes, they sometimes allow for online classes for those that fall behind on the progress with a partnering school. So honestly it isn't a big deal. It would only be a big deal for wrestling if the major that was sunset was one that a lot of wrestlers enrolled in and there was nothing else at the school that they moved to. But that isn't likely.
  9. The issue is really the expansion of Penn State and Pitt with their more expansive satellite campuses. Penn State and Pitt have really expanded their regional/satellite campuses and have turned them into full campuses to compete with the State Schools. Most of these campuses were created to only offer two year instruction filling a community college type niche while providing transfer opportunities to the flagship. But they have since become four year schools with full residential campuses. It has created a lot of state funded schools for a limited number of students. And a lot of the expansion of Pitt and Penn State campuses was funded by state funding for economic development to bring jobs to communities were facing economic decline. It has been a slow and subtle chipping away at the schools year after year that has lead to the decline trend. But it probably would make sense for schools to consolidate into a parent subsystem. For instance, the PASSHE having Edinboro, California, Clarion, Indiana, and Slippery Rock sharing leadership as a Western Pennsylvania grouping of schools would allow them to each to remain independent campuses while sharing administrative functions to create efficiencies and with a shared administration the competition between them could be minimized. I do know of other schools that have explored these types of partnerships and consolidations. Things like schools sharing one HR office, one Financial Aid office, one Legal/Regulatory office, as well as many other consolidations makes for less administrative bloat for the schools. It makes perfect sense for state schools that are largely regional schools aimed at serving their local regions of the state.
  10. Allen was really the driver behind it in my opinion. He contributed the most discussion and information with others feeding off him to create a community discussion.
  11. Depending on the majors, it could be a good thing. if a school has a major with very low enrollment then it would make sense for it to be consolidated. At the end of the day they are one system and should operate efficiency. I can’t see a wholesale move where there aren’t any overlap of majors at the three schools. That would just be absurd and create a strange campus without the ability to offer a diverse educational experience. The news headlines I have read seem to be sensationalize to get people worked up and not be in keeping with the actual plans, as I understand it.
  12. My understanding is that the schools will not be merged and will continue to operate their own campuses but they will have shared leadership and share other resources where it is justified. This will cut down on administrative bloat while allowing the schools to operate as their own campuses. At least that is what the letters I have been sent in the mail have said. They affirmed that there would be no merging or closing of campuses.
  13. Basically this year is a redshirt for everyone. So you there is no reason for anyone to be redshirting this year. No matter how many matches you wrestle for your team it won't burn a year of eligibility. The idea being that this will allow kids the chance to compete without fear of the season being cancelled. And if the season is cancelled, they aren't penalized for trying to compete which will hopefully make schools and athletes decide to stop competition if there should be any health risks that pop up because they will get the season back either way.
  14. One provision that is written into endowments is that if a school doesn’t adhere to the terms of the endowment then it names another school that should take possession of the endowment. This creates an incentive for the first school to adhere to the wishes and makes the second school a watchdog that monitors the usage since they get to claim the funds if it is not used correctly. My understanding is that Stanford wants fewer athletes so they can accept more regular students.
  15. If we are looking on the bright side... Not having to pay a head coach right now will really help their budget situation.
  16. Seven months ago... https://www.shubigred.com/sports/m-wrestl/2019-20/releases/20200223razr52
  17. Oregon State was the other team at the Aloha Open. And they also wrestled Hofstra on their swing out East.
  18. They are operated by the Federal government (DOD) so they don’t have to report to the Federal government (DOEd).
  19. As mentioned, the reporting methods aren't standardized for the EADA. The best data is from the NCAA financial disclosures for each school but not every school makes them public. The NCAA's data has better established reporting standards than the department of education. It should be noted that this doesn't include the club (RTC) spending which is really a significant portion of resources made available to a program.
  20. While training often on campus with their college coaches who are paid by the university and recruited the athletes to the school? The RTC model is kind of exposed during Covid as really being a cover for the college teams to just operate as they want.
  21. Yes, he started both companies. Flo took on a lot of large sophisticated investors. Those investors took more and more control of the board with each large check Flo collected and ultimately the new board ended up firing the founder.
  22. Not sure you're understanding... You're saying that you give a lot of credit to Flo because of the value that has been created in the wrestling community and how you feel that without them it wouldn't be possible to have that value. I mention the Ship of Theseus for a reason. If you're not familiar with the concept, I will share a snippet from the wiki: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ship_of_Theseus It is supposed that the famous ship sailed by the hero Theseus in a great battle was kept in a harbor as a museum piece, and as the years went by some of the wooden parts began to rot and were replaced by new ones; then, after a century or so, every part had been replaced. The question then is if the "restored" ship is still the same object as the original. If it is, then suppose the removed pieces were stored in a warehouse, and after the century, technology was developed that cured their rot and enabled them to be reassembled into a ship? Is this "reconstructed" ship the original ship? If it is, then what about the restored ship in the harbor still being the original ship as well? Flo inc is the ship in the museum but all of the pieces have been moved to Rokfin and reassembled. the sip looks different in its new iteration at both locations, but the one at Rokfin very much has all of the original pieces. I understand giving credit to the ship for fighting the good fight. But which ship actually fought for you? I think it is obvious in how litigious Flo inc has been regarding Rokfin. Which is why Rokfin was a party of the matter and why they kept bringing up Rokfin in the hearing. I get that you keep saying that no one would be able to fill the void if Flo inc didn't exist. But this case is literally about competition that would fill a void. That is the whole premise of a non-compete. To prevent others from doing what is being done. I don't understand the argument that this is simply a case about a non-compete and not about Rokfin while also claiming that no one else is able to do what Flo inc does. You realize all the people who did what Flo inc does are now at Rokfin, right? That is what they are trying to prevent from being competition in the non-compete. So which is it? You can only have one. The wrestling community would not have any wrestling media without Flo inc and thus there is no point in spending millions to try to enforce a non-compete because Flo inc is the only one capable of providing the service to the community? There are entities (or individuals) who are able to directly compete with Flo inc and provide the benefits Flo inc has provided to the wrestling community and thus Flo inc needs to spend millions to protect themselves from that competition?
  23. This reminds me of the Ship of Theseus. If we accept your premise... Who is Flo exactly? Flo, inc or Flo (the founders/employees that built Flo inc but are now at Rokfin)? I suspect Flo inc is fighting the legal battle so vigorously because they realize that those going to Rokfin were the key to the wrestling market success and the wrestling market has been the steady business for Flo inc.
  24. Hearings from the court have been conducted via video conference rather than in the courthouse and have been broadcast on youtube for the public to see live. Does anyone know if any journalists are coving this saga? I have only been able to get bits and pieces and would like to read some more detailed accounts of everything.
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