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OldGrappler last won the day on July 26 2018

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  1. OldGrappler

    Ohio State scandal

    I suppose we'll have to wait for the facts to come out through some law firm, and then we'll be able to make a judgement.... or not. Meanwhile Meyer is on leave, whatever that means for a top 10 football coach in August.
  2. OldGrappler

    Ohio State scandal

    If its that clearcut, fine. In the instance we have being reported, the police were apparently involved in the earliest incidence. I'm not sure exactly how someone should handle reports of things that he doesn't witness firsthand, especially if the victim is not willing to corroborate the story. Obviously domestic violence issues are problematic because if the wife reports abuse, her husband loses his job. That makes the whole situation a bit tricky to handle. As if this situation weren't messy enough, it now appears that James O Keefe, (the undercover candid camera guy who is ignored by the mainstream media usually) has just published some "interviews" with former Urban Meyer players from Florida who have non-flattering things to say about him as a coach. It's on the project veritas website. Not sure why he cared about any of this. I'm not a fan of Ohio State generally, but I'm finding all of this surprising.
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    Handshakes immediately after in sports

    I thought the golf handshake was a bit too quick, and delivered "on the fly" as he was leaving. Not good form for that game. In wrestling, I think the before and after shake is good and upholds a sense of honor and respect for the opponent and the competition. I will say that its a bit humorous to see the kids (even up through high school) who get the idea that you have to shake the guy's hand every time there's a fresh start in the center.
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    Modern Era of Wrestling

    Cleary not a guy that you want to pyth off.
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    Modern Era of Wrestling

    Its an interesting topic, and begs for some definition. Certainly the rise of scramble positions is one of the technical hallmarks. I didn't keep up with the sport much in the 80s and 90s, and was very surprised when I was getting back up to speed in the late 90s. I've wondered ever since what the genesis of these scramble positions was, and the only theory that I've come up with is that its a logical outgrowth of the low-single popularity started by John Smith. Smith makes the point that the aim of the low single is to stop the sprawl (since your foot is caught at the ankle and the attacker's head is leveraging your knee.) So if you're attacked and can't sprawl, you either concede the td, or you go over the top and grab whatever's there to work with. Once that became necessary more often, ingenuity began to operate and people came up with different techniques. In addition to the rise in scramble positions, the proliferation of cheap back points has had a big impact, imo. I doubt that there is one ref in 20 that calls the 45 degree criteria for near fall points, let alone counts to five correctly. The additional point for the longer near fall is having an impact too, although its too soon to identify it. The increase in communications and internet video has helped increase the competence of younger wrestlers, and the decline in D1 programs has raised the bar for which hs wrestlers are able to join a roster. Not sure what other phenomena are hallmarks of the modern era, but those are some that I see.
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    2 Lawsuits filed against Ohio State

    We'll see when the final report is issued. Of course, they (Perkins Cole) don't have to do any dirty work on Jordan directly. They can use the journalistic establishment to do that. In any case, I think the point to be made is that the law firm doing the official investigation for OSU is one that is likely holding a quite antagonistic posture toward the former national champ. I'm planning to stay tuned.
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    2 Lawsuits filed against Ohio State

    The Wall Street Journal today has a short piece that wonders why Jordan would have encouraged his relatives to attend tOSU if he thought it was a den of "abuse". The more interesting part of the article notes that the law firm (Perkins Cole) hired by tOSU to investigate the allegations against the doctor is the same law firm that facilitated the payment from the Democratic National Committee and Clinton campaign to the group that assembled the discredited "Trump" dossier that was used in seeking the improper surveillance warrants. http://www.abajournal.com/news/article/perkins_coie_hired_company_that_compiled_trump_dossier_on_behalf_of_clinton/ Unlikely that that particular firm is going to do anything other than attempt to inflct some primary or collateral damage on Jordan.
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    Bo Nickal wins Wade Schalles Award

    Bo has some similarities to Wade. They are both trying to pin you all the time, and from any position. Now. Not in a three move sequence from now, and not when you are worn down and ready to go over. It's always Now. Fun to watch. Hell to wrestle.
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    Why Kids Not Wrestling

    I'm not sure what the right prescription is. Times have changed. I grew up in Western Pa, and our hs had two winter sports--basketball, and wrestling, which started when I was a sophomore. Now our high school has swimming, and hockey. Most of the schools in the area now offer soccer in the fall, and some have winter track, as well as lacrosse in the spring. For the kids in the median and below size category (I was one), wrestling still gives the best opportunity for a "fair" chance at success. But for median and above sized kids, there are opportunities and pressures that weren't there decades ago. There are other sports in the winter, and more pressure from the fall and spring sports to do off-season development and conditioning work. Wrestling also suffers from not being a team sport where substitutions are possible. (Baseball has the same issue.) You're not going to get into the contest in high school unless you can win the spot for the weight class. Which brings up another issue, which is the weight control aspect. It's a serious negative for most parents, and, ironically, it probably affects the lightweights more than the upper weights. Parents of a kid who is small in stature are loathe to see him controlling his calorie intake. It's understandable. I do think the weekend competitions might be able to be shortened. The only point that I'd make is that in watching the grade school and middle school competitions, my observation is that the matchups and competition you get at the larger weekend events is much better than what usually happens in most "duals". In the duals, maybe a third of the matches are decently competitive matchups, and I'd say two thirds of them are mismatches in skill or strength that wind up being completely one-sided. It simply happens because of the difficulty of matching two teams of say, thirty kids each spread across three or four grades. I had an eighth grader one year that no one could handle. I used to describe him to the other coaches by saying "he's a lean 160 pound eighth grader". At the larger tournaments, there would be one or two other kids like him, but usually not on another team that was close to us to wrestle duals. I'm long on observations here and short on solutions, but not sure what can be done.
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    Schools you’d like to see add wrestling

    I may have missed it, but I'm surprised that no one has mentioned BYU. They'd be a very logical candidate, imo, for resurrecting their team.
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    If a poor kid is talented and a winner in the right state, his credibility is there for all to see. PA and NJ kids don't need to go to Super 32 or Fargo to validate what their hs record says. Neither do the Ohio kids. But if you're from a non-top wrestling state, you probably need some wins against kids from those states, and you'll need to get to Fargo and other venues to get them.
  12. There is a different standard for control at the edge than is used in the center of the mat. I was discussing this once with a pretty good North Jersey hs coach and he immediately brought up Oliver-Steiber. If that non-takedown had happened at the edge with Oliver's feet in bound, he gets the two. Middle of the mat and its no takedown, or at least open to interpretation, and that is what happened.
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    Eastern Michigan

    It probably is as simple as that when you are under the gun to cut your budget by a large amount. If cutting a sport won't reduce the applications to your school, (especially the ones from full tuition payers), the school is always going to have that sport in its sights. So goodbye swimming, and two others as well. The revenue part of it comes into play slightly, but not that much, imo. Other than football and basketball, what sports at any school produce any revenue? The fan base issue is interesting though. I do think that the decades long drop off in dual meets in favor of tournaments and quads helps the student body to ignore the wrestling teams. Maybe that doesn't matter. Just another factor in a long list.
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    Nickal vs Valencia

    Bo Nickal is a modern day Wade Schalles. Having a guy trying to pin you from any position, at all times, changes how you wrestle.
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    Worst Coaching staff in D1

    The ivys don't award athletic scholarships, but they have generous financial aid polices that will surprise most recruit families who are in the broad middle class. Price calculators on the various schools sites will give you a very good idea of what your family's cost will be, and they're anonymous and your don't have to give your name or email to find out the cost to you. For example: https://admission.princeton.edu/cost-aid/financial-aid-estimator