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    OldGrappler got a reaction from pamela in Modern Era of Wrestling   
    Its an interesting topic, and begs for some definition.
     
    Certainly the rise of scramble positions is one of the technical hallmarks.  I didn't keep up with the sport much in the 80s and 90s, and was very surprised when I was getting back up to speed in the late 90s.  I've wondered ever since what the genesis of these scramble positions was, and the only theory that I've come up with is that its a logical outgrowth of the low-single popularity started by John Smith.  Smith makes the point that the aim of the low single is to stop the sprawl (since your foot is caught at the ankle and the attacker's head is leveraging your knee.) 
     
    So if you're attacked and can't sprawl, you either concede the td, or you go over the top and grab whatever's there to work with.  Once that became necessary more often, ingenuity began to operate and people came up with different techniques.  
     
    In addition to the rise in scramble positions, the proliferation of cheap back points has had a big impact, imo.  I doubt that there is one ref in 20 that calls the 45 degree criteria for near fall points, let alone counts to five correctly.   The additional point for the longer near fall is having an impact too, although its too soon to identify it. 
     
    The increase in communications and internet video has helped increase the competence of younger wrestlers, and the decline in D1 programs has raised the bar for which hs wrestlers are able to join a roster. 
     
    Not sure what other phenomena are hallmarks of the modern era, but those are some that I see.  
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    OldGrappler got a reaction from teach in Ohio State scandal   
    If its that clearcut, fine.  In the instance we have being reported, the police were apparently involved in the earliest incidence.  I'm not sure exactly how someone should handle reports of things that he doesn't witness firsthand, especially if the victim is not willing to corroborate the story.  Obviously domestic violence issues are problematic because if the wife reports abuse, her husband loses his job.  That makes the whole situation a bit tricky to handle. 
     
    As if this situation weren't messy enough, it now appears that James O Keefe, (the undercover candid camera guy who is ignored by the mainstream media usually) has just published some "interviews" with former Urban Meyer players from Florida who have non-flattering things to say about him as a coach.  It's on the project veritas website.  Not sure why he cared about any of this. 
     
    I'm not a fan of Ohio State generally, but I'm finding all of this surprising. 
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    OldGrappler got a reaction from Peso in Modern Era of Wrestling   
    Cleary not a guy that you want to pyth off. 
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    OldGrappler got a reaction from herma48852 in Modern Era of Wrestling   
    Its an interesting topic, and begs for some definition.
     
    Certainly the rise of scramble positions is one of the technical hallmarks.  I didn't keep up with the sport much in the 80s and 90s, and was very surprised when I was getting back up to speed in the late 90s.  I've wondered ever since what the genesis of these scramble positions was, and the only theory that I've come up with is that its a logical outgrowth of the low-single popularity started by John Smith.  Smith makes the point that the aim of the low single is to stop the sprawl (since your foot is caught at the ankle and the attacker's head is leveraging your knee.) 
     
    So if you're attacked and can't sprawl, you either concede the td, or you go over the top and grab whatever's there to work with.  Once that became necessary more often, ingenuity began to operate and people came up with different techniques.  
     
    In addition to the rise in scramble positions, the proliferation of cheap back points has had a big impact, imo.  I doubt that there is one ref in 20 that calls the 45 degree criteria for near fall points, let alone counts to five correctly.   The additional point for the longer near fall is having an impact too, although its too soon to identify it. 
     
    The increase in communications and internet video has helped increase the competence of younger wrestlers, and the decline in D1 programs has raised the bar for which hs wrestlers are able to join a roster. 
     
    Not sure what other phenomena are hallmarks of the modern era, but those are some that I see.  
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    OldGrappler got a reaction from KSchlosser in Modern Era of Wrestling   
    Its an interesting topic, and begs for some definition.
     
    Certainly the rise of scramble positions is one of the technical hallmarks.  I didn't keep up with the sport much in the 80s and 90s, and was very surprised when I was getting back up to speed in the late 90s.  I've wondered ever since what the genesis of these scramble positions was, and the only theory that I've come up with is that its a logical outgrowth of the low-single popularity started by John Smith.  Smith makes the point that the aim of the low single is to stop the sprawl (since your foot is caught at the ankle and the attacker's head is leveraging your knee.) 
     
    So if you're attacked and can't sprawl, you either concede the td, or you go over the top and grab whatever's there to work with.  Once that became necessary more often, ingenuity began to operate and people came up with different techniques.  
     
    In addition to the rise in scramble positions, the proliferation of cheap back points has had a big impact, imo.  I doubt that there is one ref in 20 that calls the 45 degree criteria for near fall points, let alone counts to five correctly.   The additional point for the longer near fall is having an impact too, although its too soon to identify it. 
     
    The increase in communications and internet video has helped increase the competence of younger wrestlers, and the decline in D1 programs has raised the bar for which hs wrestlers are able to join a roster. 
     
    Not sure what other phenomena are hallmarks of the modern era, but those are some that I see.  
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    OldGrappler got a reaction from gowrestle in Modern Era of Wrestling   
    Cleary not a guy that you want to pyth off. 
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    OldGrappler got a reaction from gromit in Modern Era of Wrestling   
    Its an interesting topic, and begs for some definition.
     
    Certainly the rise of scramble positions is one of the technical hallmarks.  I didn't keep up with the sport much in the 80s and 90s, and was very surprised when I was getting back up to speed in the late 90s.  I've wondered ever since what the genesis of these scramble positions was, and the only theory that I've come up with is that its a logical outgrowth of the low-single popularity started by John Smith.  Smith makes the point that the aim of the low single is to stop the sprawl (since your foot is caught at the ankle and the attacker's head is leveraging your knee.) 
     
    So if you're attacked and can't sprawl, you either concede the td, or you go over the top and grab whatever's there to work with.  Once that became necessary more often, ingenuity began to operate and people came up with different techniques.  
     
    In addition to the rise in scramble positions, the proliferation of cheap back points has had a big impact, imo.  I doubt that there is one ref in 20 that calls the 45 degree criteria for near fall points, let alone counts to five correctly.   The additional point for the longer near fall is having an impact too, although its too soon to identify it. 
     
    The increase in communications and internet video has helped increase the competence of younger wrestlers, and the decline in D1 programs has raised the bar for which hs wrestlers are able to join a roster. 
     
    Not sure what other phenomena are hallmarks of the modern era, but those are some that I see.  
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    OldGrappler got a reaction from Peso in Modern Era of Wrestling   
    Its an interesting topic, and begs for some definition.
     
    Certainly the rise of scramble positions is one of the technical hallmarks.  I didn't keep up with the sport much in the 80s and 90s, and was very surprised when I was getting back up to speed in the late 90s.  I've wondered ever since what the genesis of these scramble positions was, and the only theory that I've come up with is that its a logical outgrowth of the low-single popularity started by John Smith.  Smith makes the point that the aim of the low single is to stop the sprawl (since your foot is caught at the ankle and the attacker's head is leveraging your knee.) 
     
    So if you're attacked and can't sprawl, you either concede the td, or you go over the top and grab whatever's there to work with.  Once that became necessary more often, ingenuity began to operate and people came up with different techniques.  
     
    In addition to the rise in scramble positions, the proliferation of cheap back points has had a big impact, imo.  I doubt that there is one ref in 20 that calls the 45 degree criteria for near fall points, let alone counts to five correctly.   The additional point for the longer near fall is having an impact too, although its too soon to identify it. 
     
    The increase in communications and internet video has helped increase the competence of younger wrestlers, and the decline in D1 programs has raised the bar for which hs wrestlers are able to join a roster. 
     
    Not sure what other phenomena are hallmarks of the modern era, but those are some that I see.  
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    OldGrappler got a reaction from Powerline in 2 Lawsuits filed against Ohio State   
    The Wall Street Journal today has a short piece that wonders why Jordan would have encouraged his relatives to attend tOSU if he thought it was a den of "abuse".  
     
    The more interesting part of the article notes that the law firm (Perkins Cole) hired by tOSU to investigate the allegations against the doctor is the same law firm that facilitated the payment from the Democratic National Committee and Clinton campaign to the group that assembled the discredited "Trump" dossier that was used in seeking the improper surveillance warrants.
     
    http://www.abajournal.com/news/article/perkins_coie_hired_company_that_compiled_trump_dossier_on_behalf_of_clinton/
     
    Unlikely that that particular firm is going to do anything other than attempt to inflct some primary or collateral damage on Jordan.  
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    OldGrappler got a reaction from John Coctostan in 2 Lawsuits filed against Ohio State   
    We'll see when the final report is issued.  Of course, they (Perkins Cole) don't have to do any dirty work on Jordan directly.  They can use the journalistic establishment to do that.
     
    In any case, I think the point to be made is that the law firm doing the official investigation for OSU is one that is likely holding a quite antagonistic posture toward the former national champ.
     
    I'm planning to stay tuned. 
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    OldGrappler got a reaction from John Coctostan in 2 Lawsuits filed against Ohio State   
    The Wall Street Journal today has a short piece that wonders why Jordan would have encouraged his relatives to attend tOSU if he thought it was a den of "abuse".  
     
    The more interesting part of the article notes that the law firm (Perkins Cole) hired by tOSU to investigate the allegations against the doctor is the same law firm that facilitated the payment from the Democratic National Committee and Clinton campaign to the group that assembled the discredited "Trump" dossier that was used in seeking the improper surveillance warrants.
     
    http://www.abajournal.com/news/article/perkins_coie_hired_company_that_compiled_trump_dossier_on_behalf_of_clinton/
     
    Unlikely that that particular firm is going to do anything other than attempt to inflct some primary or collateral damage on Jordan.  
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    OldGrappler got a reaction from tbert in 2 Lawsuits filed against Ohio State   
    The Wall Street Journal today has a short piece that wonders why Jordan would have encouraged his relatives to attend tOSU if he thought it was a den of "abuse".  
     
    The more interesting part of the article notes that the law firm (Perkins Cole) hired by tOSU to investigate the allegations against the doctor is the same law firm that facilitated the payment from the Democratic National Committee and Clinton campaign to the group that assembled the discredited "Trump" dossier that was used in seeking the improper surveillance warrants.
     
    http://www.abajournal.com/news/article/perkins_coie_hired_company_that_compiled_trump_dossier_on_behalf_of_clinton/
     
    Unlikely that that particular firm is going to do anything other than attempt to inflct some primary or collateral damage on Jordan.  
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    OldGrappler reacted to swoopdown in Define "hammer" for me   
    Zain - hammer
    Dake - chain saw
    Gilman - monkey wrench
    Kyle - angle grinder
    Burroughs - impact drill
    Stieber- vise grip
    Taylor - nail gun
     
     
     
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    OldGrappler got a reaction from silver-medal in Poverty   
    If a poor kid is talented and a winner in the right state, his credibility is there for all to see.  PA and NJ kids don't need to go to Super 32 or Fargo to validate what their hs record says.  Neither do the Ohio kids.  
     
    But if you're from a non-top wrestling state, you probably need some wins against kids from those states, and you'll need to get to Fargo and other venues to get them.
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    OldGrappler reacted to gowrestle in Gable - Owings   
    Gable only has 1 match he can’t get over. I have too many.
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    OldGrappler got a reaction from Old142 in Nickal vs Valencia   
    Bo Nickal is a modern day Wade Schalles.   Having a guy trying to pin you from any position, at all times, changes how you wrestle. 
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    OldGrappler got a reaction from WRfan1 in 25 Years of Hate   
    Can't resist, even if it is about football.
     

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    OldGrappler got a reaction from PSUMike in 25 Years of Hate   
    Can't resist, even if it is about football.
     

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    OldGrappler got a reaction from TobusRex in Is it time to get rid of the escape point?   
    I really dislike the 4 point near fall.  There is no way that that is worth two takedowns.  Add the fact that the refs count way way too fast, and they can't tell what 45 degrees is, and we move towards freestyle with four points for a turn.    Not my call though. 
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    OldGrappler got a reaction from steamboat_charlie in High School Numbers Down AGAIN   
    Though I agree with most of the post, I don't see that as good news in any case.
     
    If football dies,  it's not going to die because of the injury situation.  Its going to die because of the social justice warrior war on football, abetted by the journalist community.  That group disdains any combative sport.   If they get football, wrestling won't be far behind.  Hockey and lacrosse will be in their sights too.  
     
    They're part of a group of people who want to decide everything for everyone, so that nothing can occur without their permission, or  license.  They are quite strong, relentless, and have powerful allies in journalism and media. 
     
    One of my favorite quotes about (pro) football, from Bill Parcells (apparently borrowed from Eugene McCarthy) , applies equally to wrestling.  He said "The problem with football is you have to be smart enough to understand it, and dumb enough to think its important."   In other words, it has to have intrinsic value in your eyes.
     
    If you don't think that wrestling "makes you somebody", you'll never put up with the grind that it is.  I'm not sure we've found the approach to combat the idea that being a wrestler makes you someone that you don't (or shouldn't)  want to be.  Good coaches at all levels are the best answer to this, I suppose.  I'm not sure what else is.   At a minimum, it would be good if the combative sports weren't at war with each other. 
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    OldGrappler got a reaction from nom in 25 Years of Hate   
    Can't resist, even if it is about football.
     

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    OldGrappler got a reaction from HurricaneWrestling in 25 Years of Hate   
    Can't resist, even if it is about football.
     

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    OldGrappler got a reaction from TobusRex in 25 Years of Hate   
    Can't resist, even if it is about football.
     

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    OldGrappler got a reaction from headache in 25 Years of Hate   
    Can't resist, even if it is about football.
     

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    OldGrappler got a reaction from GranbyTroll in Gabe Dean   
    I got a big kick out of his story about having pretended to have been paralyzed after he lost to a girl in one of his first matches in grade school.  And his parents calling him out on it. 
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