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Posts posted by ionel

  1. 5 hours ago, 1032004 said:

    Sorry I was more just referring to in terms of college accomplishments, not necessarily “best,” in response to the suggestion to “take the medal score of tbe 3 best years.”

    Uetake never lost in college, he was never challenged, he was arguably the best collegiant wrestler all time which also makes him the best OSU college wrestler all time.  And again, he won gold while in college so also best in the world at his weight class at that same point in time (and actually for 4 yrs) in college.  John & Pat both lost.  Ask John & Pat if you dont believe me.  

  2. 3 hours ago, 1032004 said:

    I don’t think Uetake has an argument over Pat Smith (and yes I know these rankings are just based on math).  Regardless of the circumstances, 4 titles is better than 3 even if the guy with 3 never had a chance for 4.

    Uetake never lost in either folk or free, he won Olympic Gold while in college and again after, he was never challenged. John could big brother Pat after Pat won 4, and John was probably more dominate last two years than Pat.  Pretty sure if you asked John  and/or Pat who was the best ever OSU wrestler, I know who they would both say.

  3. 10 hours ago, BobDole said:

    My guess is there will at least be a lot of early season "preliminary" redshirts until coaches are more confident that there will be a championships. You'll see guys like Spencer Lee, Nick Lee, Roman Bravo-Young, etc that have redshirts to burn probably sitting out of "scheduled" competition early on.

    Bob,  my home county doubled case count from 1 to 2, noticed Russell county went up 8x so good to see you are still kicking, screaming & posting. :)

  4. 28 minutes ago, Idaho said:

    As of Aug. 1, teams will be allowed to provide need- and merit-based aid to student-athletes without it counting toward a program’s athletic scholarship limit. 

    So with schools struggling financially, where does the money come from for this extra aid? I get it’s now “allowed” but where does the school actually get the money to do it? 

    Carl knows and has a plan.  ;_;

  5. 38 minutes ago, Idaho said:

    Yeah, I don't see how they can have the schedule if they don't have the season defined yet. When they finally define what will happen (which is still an "if") the AD's can move forward with plans. I can easily see conference only duals (like the B10 in football) or even regional only , 1 tournament, conference, NCAA. That's just my guess. 

    and I could be wrong but don't think will have wrestling schedules till after we have football schedules (prob no W schedule till halfway thru football).  Do we have football schedules?  ;_;

  6. 45 minutes ago, PSUSMC said:

    The Big 10 announced the cancellation of all non-conference games. 

    Most of those are the first few weeks of the season (although Wisci-ND was to be Oct 3rd). 

    Reasoning, the conference states is, "... By limiting competition to other Big Ten institutions, the Conference will have the greatest flexibility to adjust its own operations throughout the season and make quick decisions in real-time based on the most current evolving medical advice and the fluid nature of the pandemic."

    I have been expecting the major conferences to do this.  Much easier to the control testing protocol and standards regarding how to handle positives plus the schedule flexibility issues.  Would think wrestling should plan for similar, only conference duals after Jan 1, maybe only 1 tournament if possible pre conference.

  7. 2 hours ago, Antitroll2828 said:

    They have a 27.7 billion dollar endowment, but you know the dean might need to put an addition on his winter home or the football team might need Gucci carpet in the locker room so bring out the axe for the “lesser” sports. 

    I'm guessing that is an endowment for academics.  Do you think they should raid an academic endowment to support athletics, what if a univ raided an endowment specifically set up to fund an athletic scholarship and used it for academic research.   But regardless its tough times and admin has to make tough decisions and think long term, I don't like it but there it is ...

  8. 16 minutes ago, gimpeltf said:

    I was responding to your saying all classes were online. I guess you meant all classes COULD be online not that every kid had to be online which is how I took your statement.

    Yes that's what I said, all classes online for 2020/21


    but you replied with a link about freshman and up to 40% on campus, I did not say "could be."

  9. 16 hours ago, aknipp said:

    Considering that Harvard (and other schools) have stated that next semester (or even next year) will be on line,  I am not really surprised. 

    Pretty sure Harvard has said all classes for 2020/21 will be online so probably all athletics will be virtual/online as well or simply cancelled?  ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

  10. 1 minute ago, jackwebster said:

    Not sure of your tone, but I know a lot guys who have arranged clandestine training camps. Private mats, word of mouth ... 

    Anybody know folks doing this?

    check with jackwebster he knows  ;)

  11. 14 hours ago, Idaho said:

    University of Oregon lost 1.3 million last year - perhaps the better question is which program loses the least amount? 

    Hard to find info on baseball but this article from 2016 shows that 4 of the 12 SEC baseball teams made money and one stayed even. The overall budgets of SEC athletics shows that every school made a profit for the year with Kentucky making the least profit at nearly 5 million. In short, the SEC could add wrestling for men and women if they wanted to. 


    How much NCAA baseball teams spent 2013-17


    Most cost effective NCAA baseball programs 2018


    Looking at details of the first article I'd still say we have no evidence that any baseball programs are profitable.  The table shows that LSU and TAM both include contributions/donations.  This is a table of "cash coming in" but the author attributes it to revenue in the article but does also mention that TAM was an anomaly as it included donations for a stadium renovation.  Moreover the "cash going out" table does not include all relevant expenses.  What it does show is that LSU is perhaps the one and only ( program that actually cash flows its baseball operation within baseball, no outside athletic or university help.  But that does not mean the program is "profitable."

    Regarding BSU dropping baseball, I certainly would not blame them, this is going to be an extraordinary year.  There may not even be any football or basketball programs that are profitably this year or able to cash flow operations with current year revenue.  Saves a lot of money to drop the first year after attempting to restart than later after more infrastructure investment.  We are going to see more of this at the smaller universities, the large programs just keep getting bigger with conference TV etc. but more cost added with feeding all athletes, paying athletes etc. the smaller universities are going to be faced with which programs make sense and can keep afloat.  If they'd kept wrestling it would've been dropped this year.  Not good news but its the situation we face this year.  

  12. 40 minutes ago, 1032004 said:

    According to this recent article (which is making some similar suggestions Wrestling fans are) , about 15 of 300 teams - https://www.omaha.com/sports/cws/raise-revenue-or-cut-costs-one-solution-could-do-both-and-save-college-baseball/article_43ebc05f-80ee-5bea-98b2-e2b990612064.html


    Article says 5% are profitable but didn't see (skimmed it) any details or specifics on which programs, whether over time etc.  Does the author consider it "profitable" if revenue plus donations exceeds total operating expense or is it just direct revenue accrued to baseball from tickets, tv etc less expense?  Without the details hard to know what the 5% means.  But yeah like wrestling they pretty much all lose money.  

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