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Everything posted by Fletcher

  1. It would be interesting to see what would happen if themat.com had two different forums: 1. One for posters using their real names - no anonymity allowed. They could have some sort of verification system in place. This way, legit. college and former college wrestlers can post without concern for cheap shots from the anonymous peanut gallery. 2. One for anynymous posters. There's definitely still some value to having an anonymous board, where people can post rumors or inside info. without fear of being outed, or post negative opinions (legitimate or not) about teams/wrestlers without fear of getting tracked down and beat up.
  2. You're making it harder for me to root against him, you bastard.
  3. [/quote[/url]] Amazing how Cael makes it look so easy. This video also makes me nostaligic for the days when Iowa State was relevant.
  4. I suspect lots of posters on this board are undefeated in Carver Hawkeye, as well as many other collegiate wrestling venues.
  5. Badgermon, Gable lost the most important match of his collegiate career. You seem to be glossing over that.
  6. I root for the underdog and I root for whoever is going against Iowa. If it's Dake and St. John in the finals, there should somehow be a way for both of them to lose.
  7. Your last point is well-taken. The best athletes in the country who are 185-220 lbs. are playing football, baseball, or basketball.
  8. He was period. BUT his weight was never quite as stacked as some of the old ones I mentioned, therefore he was far more unchallenged than Schultz, J Smith, and a Kenny Monday for example. Just looked thru the brackets from '97-'02 and this statement simply is not true. Cael's weight classes were littered with future NCAA champs and world medalists. And as MagnetBack pointed out, Cael didn't beat them - he majored, teched, or pinned them. I recall Cael went up a weight class because he didn't want to cut weight his last year. Dake should do the same.
  9. I like the article about Magrum being named an academic all-american, where they explain his wrestling career in detail but don't say one word about his academic accomplishments.
  10. Its hard to argue anyone against Mark Schultz. At one point he was brutalizing all in the world; in Wikipedia: In 1984 Mark and Dave Schultz both won Olympic Gold. The following year Mark won the World Championships and faced all the Soviet-block countries that boycotted the 1984 Olympics. In the World finals Mark built a 10-2 lead after one minute and won 10-5. Dave Schultz is the only 1984 Olympic Champion to win the 1983 World Championships and Mark is the only 1984 Olympic Champion to win the 1985 World Championships. When Mark won another World Championship in 1987, he became the first Olympic Champion to add two additional World titles, and also tied Lee Kemp's U.S. record for World golds. In 1991 Mark Schultz, Lee Kemp, and John Smith were recorded in the Guineess book of World Records as "The most world titles won by a US wrestler." Also in 1985 Wrestling Masters Magazine named him international wrestler of the year. Of any weight in any country...not too shabby. My post was a joke. Due to the weight difference, a head-to-head matchup would result in Dake's neck being broken.
  11. 2nd on Tirapelle. Also McGinnis and his dad. I think Jeff stopped posting due to people on here being jerks, but oldsalt is still good for some inside information on Iowa every now and then. Always good to have former successful college wrestlers posting on here, but unfortunately the rest of us anonymous idiots scare them off by asking too may creepy personal questions or attacking their careers.
  12. I know this will be controversial, but I say in their primes Schutz beats Dake head-to-head.
  13. I don't remember Cael ever: (i) gassing; (i) winning by the skin of his teeth; or (iii) coasting when he was ahead. He never employed Dake's style of shut-down defense because he was too busy constantly trying to score. I think you all are forgetting how truly dominent Cael really was.
  14. I don't think of the Hodge as a statistically-driven award. It's more about who brings excitement to the match. Based on that subjective criteria, Ness overwhelms Varner - because of both his pins and his nailbiter finals win. Back in those days Varner still had the varnish reputation, not that of a freestyle gold medalist. Also, let's not forget that, though it may appear that there is a critical mass of Ness disrespect on this board, it's mainly being generated by one person (COBRA/Suzie Shagwell) using several different handles that are all agreeing with each other - with a half-hearted attempt at a different vernacular for each voice.
  15. Disagreed. Though he may rack up some losses, it will help Welch at NCAAs if he wrestles Taylor and St. John as many times as possible during the season.
  16. He was just hanging around to scream at Steve after the show for not giving 110% and outperforming the opening act so much that they quit the music business. Later this week, he's coming to your office to yell at you for not blowing past your barriers on your powerpoint presentations.
  17. "You think DSJ, or Pucillo, or Nickerson, or Mike Grey, or anybody else who wrestles at a high D1 level who happens to suffer an injury, doesn't have the discipline to "train, condition, stretch" or "go to physical therapy" or "eat the right diet"?" I'm sure they all do a great job of this - it's just that among the elite, some do it better than others. If I say that Jordan Burroughs is quicker than Andrew Howe, it doesn't mean that I think Howe is slow. "To state that the cause of many injuries in the D1 wrestling world are due to a wrestler's lack of discipline to go to physical therapy, diet right, stretch, and train is not only laughable but offensive." Managing injuries requires a mentality that runs contrary to the instincts of elite athletes. It requires rest, restraint, and moderation. I think many elite athletes have trouble properly recovering from injuries precisely because of their strong work ethic. "I'm pretty sure that wrestler's at the top D1 level do all of this, and still injuries are often times inevitable." Agreed that injuries are often times inevitable. They're part of the sport. That's why they shouldn't be used as an excuse/explanation for losing.
  18. I'm also not buying this "it's not an excuse, but it's an explanation" line. As the politicians say - that's a distinction without a difference. Call it whatever you want - you're saying, but for the injury, wrestler X may not have lost to wrestler Y.
  19. Both guys did it against some tough competition too. Russell's is noted above, but it's easy to forget how tough Bertin's weight class was as well, year after year. Tirapelle, Johnson, Percival, Paulson, Gentry, Hendricks, Becker, Roller, Schneider. Lot of AAs and a few national champs in there.
  20. Not what I was saying. Take the Dake/DSJ match for example. Iowa faithful have been going on about how DSJ was injured most of the year and the finals match woould have been different if he hadn't been. The truth is we don't know What DSJ's health status was - he could have been 100%, 50%, or for all we know, Dake could have been hurt and just gutted it out. Maybe DSJ didn't get a good night sleep the night before the match. Maybe his girlfriend broke up with him or his dog died. There's a million factors that affect the outcome of a match and injuries are only one of them.
  21. Can we all have a gentleman's agreement on this board to stop using injuries as an excuse when someone loses? Reasons: 1. They're all wrestling injured by the time the NCAA tournament rolls around, it's all just a matter of degree. 2. Injuries often can be avoided thru training, conditioning, stretching, etc. Avoiding injuries is part of a wrestler's skill set, just like a good double leg TD (I recognize this is a generalization and some injuries are unavoidable). Same goes for recouperation from injury. Proper physical therapy, diet, and all other recovery factors are part of the discipline required to be a good wrestler. This doesn't apply to all injuries, but does apply to many. 3. It's an easy catch-all excuse for losing. When you say wrestler X only lost because he was injured, it's impossible for anyone to prove you wrong. It's like my wife saying she would beat me at Words with Friends if she had the time to waste to come up with high-scoring words. This is not to say that wrestlers do not lose matches due to injury - they do. It's just that it's pointless for us to argue over the extent of those injuries and their impact on performance because those factors will always be unknowable to us. The more sensible approach is to assume that everyone who steps on the mat is giving it 100% and whoever wins is the better wrestler. Anything else is just speculation. Agreed?
  22. Agreed. Muz/Hendricks was more egregious than Churella/Hendricks, but it was a round earlier so not as much lip service.
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