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  1. What in the world do prices for housing immediately off-campus have to do with the housing costs for coaches? Why would a head or assistant coach need a duplex unit with five bedrooms? You don't have to live at Penn to coach at Penn. And, if you have school-age kids, you'll be looking at Delaware and Montgomery Counties, anyway.
  2. 1989-93. Did you come on a recruiting visit? My fellow freshmen teammates and I may have hosted you.
  3. The Ivy League only allows undergraduates to compete in varsity sports. However, to echo wrestlingnerd, many Ivy League wrestlers enter school now with a 5-year plan. So, how does a wrestler make it work? Many majors across the Ivy League, like dual degree programs at Penn (Wharton & Engineering, for example) take five years to compete, so a student and his coach may plan out their schedule to take a year off competing, often after two years or during the most challenging/time-consuming part of the curriculum (internships, design projects, etc.). Injuries may cause adjustments to the original plan. A student with a four-year program will likely have to withdraw from school for at least a semester to stop their competition clock. Ivy League rules get weird here in that they can restrict the amount of competition a wrestler can seek out (i.e a withdrawn student is often allowed to compete in open tournaments during the holidays but not during the normal competition calendar). Previously, wrestlers were not even allowed in the room during to practice to work out during their off year, but I'm not sure how these rules are applied now given the rise of the RTCs. Again, wrestlers may take "advantage" of an injury to take withdraw from school to stop their clock. I believe Cornell is the only Ivy League program that actively "greyshirts". In practice, this allows their students to complete general requirement classes, often at TCCC, and compete in open tournaments through the first semester of freshman year. You often see greyshirts sit out the first semester of competition senior year, as that open competition freshman year counts on their clock. Personally, I think students who are contemplating greyshirts might just be better off taking a full gap year and training at Colorado Springs or another RTC to stop their clock from starting, but who am I to argue with Cornell's success. For me, I was always good at school, but I saw school first and foremost as a means to an end. One big reason I selected Penn was because it was the only Ivy League school that offered an undergraduate program in Communications. I've worked in media and public policy for almost 25 years now, and it is not an industry that typically requires an advanced degree. When I broke my foot sophomore year, the coaching staff and school administration approached me about expanding my course load to a dual degree with Wharton and getting my fifth year. I looked at the amount of classes I would have to "re-take" and said never mind, and if I ever withdrew from school I probably would've found work in media and never looked back. So, I was four years and done. "Sorry" you went to Pitt, Jason. We would've loved to have you at Penn.
  4. Brad Johnson saves the round for Oklahoma.
  5. Context can sometimes be hard to convey via message boards. Of course, the Ivy League schools have their standards - some kids just can't get in, and many who can get in shouldn't consider attending for a variety or reasons. As a student athlete, the academic workload at ivy League schools is much higher than at other schools. They're not for everyone. Still, I will push back against the general notion that 1) non-Ivy League wrestlers are just a big bunch of dummies who couldn't get into Ivy League schools, and 2) that Ivy League schools won't do everything they can to admit and enroll elite athletes within their own standards, both from an academic and financial standpoint. (These standards can very significantly by school and sport.)
  6. On a related note, Tom Crean goes down, which means the AD will be paying even less attention to the wrestling program. Good or bad for IU wrestling? Who knows.
  7. Adam Coon is studying aerospace engineering at Michigan. Many of the Nittany Lion starters are on the honor roll. Spencer Lee had Penn and Stanford on his consideration list. There are great students and great wrestlers everywhere. I'd love to see more of them in the Ivy League.
  8. Penn C'93. Four-year wrestler. I got 80% of my tuition comped in need-based aid. And, I'm pretty well aware of admissions standards for normal students (I conduct prospective student interviews) and athletes at both my school and the rest of the Ivies. We can't admit everybody, but we can admit a lot more students than you think, including a lot of the top kids at a lot of the top wrestling schools. Hard to believe some of the nonsense on this thread...
  9. I get a kick out of anyone saying Ivy league teams, especially Cornell, do so well with so little. Our schools can give out more need-based aid than fully-funded programs give out in scholarships, and the wrestler keeps the aid if he quits the sport. Plus, the Friedman Center is one of the best wrestling facilities in the country, period. Sure, there are some kids our schools can't recruit because of admissions standards, but don't make them out to be more than they are.
  10. Unfortunately, I think IU's problems may start with the AD.
  11. EIWA had 7 auto bids at 184. Dean's competition has been more than adequate to prepare him for NCAAs.
  12. Snyder doesn't have enough matches to qualify the conference for a bid.
  13. As the Fabulous Sports Babe used to say, the fish rots from the head... http://www.cyclones.com/staff.aspx?staff=7 After all, according to the ISU AD's bio: The Iowa State athletics brand is stronger than it has ever been. During Pollard’s administration, ISU has registered its all-time best Directors’ Cup ranking (34th in 2010). Assembled, arguably, the strongest coaching staff in ISU history...you know, after losing a once-in-a-generation icon and coach.
  14. I think the fascination here is with people's preconception of what "college age" means today and with maintaining some level of fairness in athletic competition. I marvel at the fact that my eligibility was over when I was 21 - an age when the clock for some student-athletes, some as talented at Hall, hasn't even begun. Likewise, by the time I turned 25 - when Hall's clock would end if he takes an Olympic Redshirt - I had already moved to four different cities as I was establishing my career in media. Not saying its wrong, just different than my experiences. Personally, I'm fine with delaying college admission and competition for as long as any athlete wants, although I would love to see a total revamping of redshirting rules. As many students take five years to attain an undergraduate degree, I would like to see athletes given five years to compete. But, no redshirts (I'm open to an exception for a Mormom mission) and your clock starts the moment you step foot on any campus anywhere. BTW, if you think its "bad" in wresting, you should check out men's hockey and men's lacrosse.
  15. Actually, the "secret" of the Ivy League programs is that when you factor in need-based aid, many wrestlers/athletes get more money to attend an Ivy League school than they would via a partial athletic scholarship at other D-I schools. Way back when, Penn covered 80% of my tuition. Sure beats quarters, thirds and halves.
  16. Really consistent performer, if just a cut below the best worldwide. Always gave his best effort. Shame for his back to flare up today. Best of luck at OSU.
  17. Besides being a wonderful form of self-defense, a fantastic way to build conditioning and self-confidence, a potential source for financing schooling and a much better form or grappling if you want to develop into a mixed martial artist, how so? I think I will stop feeding the troll now...
  18. The anti-thesis to real wrestling? I didn't know you were the final arbiter. Some of the pro-international posters really have to get over themselves.
  19. Spectacular front headlock throw, but the Japanese wrestler got away with a leg hook as the Azerbaijani was coming up with the original movement. Too long before to merit a challenge? Sucks for Jesse.
  20. Diabetes is a bitch...Come if you can. No shame in your tears. Hi, Just wanted everyone to know we just got a really beautiful setting for Morris' celebration that will seat over 300 (just in case). Here is all the information: May 21, 10:30-12:00 St. Martins in the Field 8000 St Martins Ln, Philadelphia, PA 19118 Reception to follow Thank you all and feel free to share the information! Ellen​ -- Dr. Ellen Fishman-Johnson Composer/EducatorDirector of The Arts and Head of the New Media Department Springside Chestnut Hill Academy-Philadelphia  Apple Distinguished Educator 2007  www.efjcomposer.com
  21. Casey does have a year of eligibility remaining after sitting out 2014-15. School policy lists all students' "grades" from the year they enter school. If he returns, he will be listed on the roster again as a Senior. He was not recognized at Senior Day this year. Casey had wins over Realbuto and Rogers at the Scuffle. Minus one bad day at EIWAs, he would've been a Top 10 seed at NCAAs.
  22. That being said, if there are to be any consequences for this event, the officials working the Miller-Realbuto bout, and perhaps the table crew, should be asked to take the rest of the tournament off.
  23. Well, the way we can have less anonymous message board brawling is to have less anonymity. That being said, I echo TFBJR's offer and also offer to buy a round of drinks next year at MSG.
  24. Gimp - No sarcasm intended. Hopping in and out of meetings at work today and trying to keep up. Didn't know bout sheets were being communicated electronically. DJM
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