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    Vertical got a reaction from spjets160 in Girls Go Greco   
    Friday, June 15th, in what is believed to be the First Girls' Greco Duals Competition, 160 young ladies from 10 states making up 12 teams, wrestled 24 Greco Duals.  States represented at Pocatello, Idaho's Turf Wars, were Alaska, California, Colorado, Hawaii, Idaho, Montana, Nevada, Oregon, Utah, and Washington.  The Turf Wars Washington finished the Duals 5-0, and in what amounted to the finals, defeated Hawaii 40-33.  California finished in 3rd Place.  Girls Greco is alive and well out west!
    1st Place:  Washington 
    2nd Place:  Hawaii
    3rd Place:  California 
     
    #GoGreco
     
    The man behind this event is Ned Zollinger, a longtime supporter of Wrestling in The West.  Zollinger has been involved with USA Wrestling since the inception of the organization. In years past, Ned was president of the East Idaho chapter of the organization, before the Idaho association combined into one group. He participated in the very first Western Regional Kids/Cadet Championships when it was held in Gillette, Wyoming.  He has been at every Western Regional event since, pushing three decades of service. 
     
    Back in 2010, Ned Zollinger was honored as The USA Wrestling's President Award, signifying Exceptional State Leadership.  Back then Ned said, "I am hoping I can bring something back to inspire, and help the people I work with, on the grassroots level."  Zollinger has certainly lived up to that statement and more!  Three years back, Girls Freestyle was added to the long running Junior Boys Duals, since that time, Middle-School, and Elementary School Duals were also include.  And this year for the very First time, Girls Greco was added.  "It's time," said Zollinger "It's the right time, A lot of very stellar careers will begin right here."
     
    Matches consisted of Pool Competition and then places rounds.  In Alphabetical order, the record and results were:
    ALASKA 4-1
    Alaska 48 Utah 20
    Alaska 40 Nevada 35
    Alaska 44 Oregon 20
    Alaska 35 Idaho 34
    Colorado 49 Alaska 20
     
    CALIFORNIA 3-2
    California 33 West Orphan 10
    California 42 Utah 10
    California 49 Colorado 18
    Hawaii 35 California 30
    Washington 43 California 30
     
    COLORADO 2-3
    Colorado 37 Idaho 25
    Colorado 49 Alaska 20
    California 49 Colorado 18
    Washington 58 Colorado 15
    Hawaii 53 Colorado 20
     
    HAWAII 4-1
    Hawaii 59 Oregon 15
    Hawaii 51 Washington B 17
    Washington 40 Hawaii 33
    Hawaii 35 California 30
    Hawaii 53 Colorado 20
     
    IDAHO 3-2
    Idaho 45 West Orphan 15
    Idaho 44 Montana 19
    Idaho 30 Washington B 29
    Alaska 35 Idaho 34
    Colorado 37 Idaho 25
     
    MONTANA 1-4
    Nevada 38 Montana 15
    Washington 61 Montana 11
    Idaho 44 Montana 19
    Montana 32 West Orphan 15
    Washington B 36 Montana 22
     
    NEVADA 1-4
    Nevada 38 Montana 15
    Washington 58 Nevada 12
    Oregon 25 Nevada 25 (tie-breaker criteria)
    Alaska 40 Nevada 35
    Utah 41-29
     
    OREGON 3-2
    Oregon 25 Nevada 25 (tie-breaker criteria)
    Oregon 30 Utah 29
    Alaska 44 Oregon 20
    Oregon 34 Washington B 21
    Hawaii 59 Oregon 15
     
    UTAH 2-3
    Alaska 48 Utah 20
    Oregon 30 Utah 29
    Utah 41 Nevada 29
    Utah 50 West Orphan 
    California 42 Utah 10
     
    WASHINGTON 5-0
    Washington 58 Nevada 12
    Washington 61 Montana 11
    Washington 40 Hawaii 33
    Washington 58 Colorado 15
    Washington 43 California 30
     
    WASHINGTON B 2-3
    Washington B 36 Montana 22
    Oregon 34 Washington B 21
    Hawaii 51 Washington B 17
    Washington B 32 West Orphan 21
    Idaho 30 Washington B 29
     
    West Orphan Team was comprised of various girls from numerous states.
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    Vertical got a reaction from smcfee in Applaud the Refs   
    When I watched this match, I scored it 4 Red.  Red initiated the shot, never relinquished his hold, and obviously put blue in danger.  As an official, I can understand, there are various angles to a move/hold/action.  The Official on the mat felt there was a change of direction, and thus offered 4 Blue which was confirmed by the Judge, and in a moment of quick action also signaled for a Fall.  The Chairman, did in fact confirm, and that is what everyone is seeing and commenting on.  
    While the results were originally scored for Blue, including the Fall, after review, it was changed to Red winning by Fall.  We as officials, do the best we can, not once, have I ever known anyone to wake-up and go to a tournament or match and say "let's mess this up, or score it wrong."  We're human and it (mistakes) happens.  They got it right in the end.  That is what really does matter.  There is NEVER a Wrong time to do the Right thing.  I have spoken with 2 of the 3 involved, we discussed the move, match, and outcome, they agreed, it could/should have been different.  That's a learning curve in and of itself.
    Everyone that day earned their pay (nothing), like coaches, and table workers, they are volunteers.  I love what Flo does to promote wrestling, I have listened to countless matches they have broadcasted, and commentated on, many times they (Flo) gets it wrong on their own scoring opinions, they just don't put themselves on blast like they threw this volunteer crew under the bus.  I still respect and support them, but would love for their next event, let me run a camera, and comment, while I give them a whistle and wristbands and let them make the call.  And, if we all have the chance to watch a video, slow it down, rematch it again and again, we'd be even better, but calls are watched, analyzed, and scored in real-time, not with the benefit that all the naysayers have.
    Just my $.02, which is many, many times, more than I make as a volunteer. 
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    Vertical reacted to Angry_Fish in Bubba Jenkins apparently discusses the Pico situation   
    I listened...There were two people interviewing him.  Focus was MMA, but wrestling was touched on. 
     
    Below are some of the things he mentioned related to wrestling...
     
    -- Explained what a redshirt was.
    -- Explained history of unicorn slayer nickname.
    -- Talked about all the women he banged when he transferred to ASU
     
    Then he talked about Cael controversy.  Here is what he basically said....
     
    1. While at Iowa St, Cael never recruited him out of HS despite being the #1 recruit in the country.
    2. When Cael came to PSU he was already an AA (after losing to Metcalf in the finals), but coaches shunned him due to his flamboyant style.
    3. Coaches would not even tell him times of practice, etc, he had to find out from teammates.
    4. Coaches stripped him of his captaincy without explanation.
    5. Controversy related to something over Thanksgiving break about wrestling in a voluntary holiday tourney (East Stroudsburg Open?). Coaches thought he was going to compete.  Communication gap of some sort.
     
    Pretty much everything above he stated as being irrefutable facts that neither the coaches nor he would dispute (although I doubt that), but then he hit on what seemed to be the biggest issue (of which he conceded the facts are in dispute).
     
    There was an issue with the scale used at the beginning of the season for weight certification.  Bubba claims that others, unbeknownst to him, jury rigged the scale with tape before the weigh-ins started.  The officials discovered the issue when Bubba was being weighed and they and coaches believed it was Bubba who was behind it all.  That seems to be the biggest issue in the saga (according to Bubba) -- and when that happened Cael was pretty much done with Bubba
     
    Then he got into the whole situation with Cael not releasing him. Would have had to sit out a year if he stayed in the B1G, etc..
     
    He also stated that he wanted to go to Cornell more the ASU and have Dake as his sparring partner.  I missed why he ended up at ASU instead of Cornell.
     
    He did acknowledge that Cael tried to seek him out to congratulate him after pining Taylor, but Bubba had no time for him.
     
    Then he moved back to MMA discussion, which seems to be his real focus (as one would expect).  He said going from NCAA wrestling to MMA is like going from HS to College.  He never even thinks about his wrestling days any more.  He has moved on.
     
    Most interesting part of the interview were his tales of tails at ASU.
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    Vertical reacted to Angry_Fish in Bubba Jenkins apparently discusses the Pico situation   
    Nope, just "pink taco".  Maybe that confused people....
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    Vertical reacted to scribe in USA Freestyle @ 74kg - 2015-2016 Timeframe   
    Dake's definitely not as high as you right now.
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    Vertical reacted to nom in Anthony Valencia at the Sr. Level   
    Ahh, your reply was too fast for me ... I was joking.
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    Vertical reacted to armspin in U.S. Open as Spectacle   
    I didn't watch flo but on NBC the Greco and women are already playing second fiddle to the freestylers, with 2 bouts each shown to MFS 5. Greco already has a 2 man wrestle off instead if a real wtt coming up. What would you have the organizers do? Seperate events? Blatant ignoring of female and Greco athletes?
     
    To each their own I guess but I much preferred watching Biseks throws and Grays nasty leg lace than watch Metcalf and Oliver stare at each other.
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    Vertical reacted to VakAttack in Who Gets the Hodge?   
    When Joey Davis wins next year over Dieringer.....
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    Vertical reacted to dougb in Greatest top wrestlers all-time, not counting leg wrestlers   
    Alan Paradise of Cal State Bakersfield.
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    Vertical reacted to gutfirst in Martinez at 154   
    are you guys arguing about who our 2nd and 3rd ranked guys are going to be in a weight we haven't medaled in several years?
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    Vertical reacted to silver-medal in Ohio State Part 2   
    Preseason:  Minny is the team to beat...Schiller, both Dardanes, Ness, Storley...5 potential finalists...Ohio State is too inexperienced.
     
    Early season:  Iowa has emerged.  Every starter a potential placer.  Beating everyone in sight....Ohio State has injuries and took 2nd in Vegas...lost two duals on criteria...just not there....
     
    Later in Season:  Maybe it's Mizzou with Waters, Cox and Houdashelt and a great lineup...they're beating everyone....three likely champs....Hunter is hurt badly and who will make the finals besides Logan?
     
    Big Tens:  Great tourney for Ohio State but Iowa should have won it.  Bucks peaked too early.  Some of those guys won't score at NCAA's.  It's still Mizzou or Iowa.  
     
    NCAA Tourney:  With three frosh in lineup and no Hunter Stieber in terms of scoring, OHIO STATE LED THE TOURNAMENT FROM START TO FINISH!  
     
    Three young wrestlers, one more flawless effort from Logan and a minor miracle in Courts took the Bucks from wire to wire.  Congrats to the wrestlers, coaches and their families.  Every wrestling fan in the country should take a moment to at least acknowledge that this was seldom seen brilliance in a team that had every reason not to be this good.  Congrats to the Buckeyes.  You are the National Champs.  
     
    (Pause for a moment before beginning your posts about how good PSU will be next year or the pros and cons of Iowa.)
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    Vertical got a reaction from Tofurky in Jason Bryant   
    Nobody ever sends me dirty emails Jason.
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    Vertical got a reaction from scribe in Jason Bryant   
    Nobody ever sends me dirty emails Jason.
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