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  1. oldcougar

    Lehigh at Iowa

    Correct me if I'm wrong, but I didn't notice one offensive point scored by Lehigh, just neutral points: No takedowns, no backs, no reversals. If so, it's the first meet I ever saw with one team being held to no offensive points. I remember a high school dual meet in 1961 that our team won 67-0. Can't remember any offensive points then, either, but that was a looong time ago.
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    All-Native State NCAA Team!

    I guess I can do the obvious one, since I'm from PA. Pennsylvania: 125 #1 - Spencer Lee - Iowa 'nuff said 133 #5 - Luke Pletcher - Ohio State 141 #16 - Max Murin - Iowa 149 #8 - Brock Zacherl - Clarion 157 #1 - Jason Nolf = Penn State 165 #1 - Vincenzo Joseph - Penn State 174 #6 - Mike Kemmerer - Iowa * He's injured so we'll throw in #11 - Mikey Labriola - Nebraska 184 #5 - Zack Zavasky - Virginia Tech 197 #17 - Jake Woodley - Oklahoma (several higher rated kids but Woodley has the most potential) 285 #8 - Jordan Wood - Lehigh It's a competitive lineup.
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    My Ringer Beat Your Ringer

    I was coaching youth wrestling. We had a meet for the league championship. The other coach cheated with his kids at every opportunity, hiding kids, lying about weight classes and then protesting - 'we don't have time to do weigh-ins', etc. The previous year our teams met for the championship and he won by cheating, so I was ready for him the next year. It was going to be a close meet. He came to me and said, "I have a kid from the Jr Hi who is looking for a bout. He's pretty good, but not great. Okay if we set one up?" The kid was a ringer and I knew it. The kid ended up as a PA state place winner in high school. What the other coach didn't realize that I had brought my own ringer. So I said, "I have a kid who came along to watch the meet. He's in Jr Hi and is pretty good, too. Let's set it up." My ringer beat his ringer. We won the dual by 6 points.
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    Ohio State scandal

    you right wing ideologues amuse me. It's gospel to you about the 'communist', 'left wing' media. 1) why do you bring your weird political opinions to a wrestling website? Don't we get enough of this crap elsewhere? 2) Most of the 'main stream media' is owned by just a few companies. Leftist is the last thing you could call them. I'm not just talking about Faux News and Sinclair, an extreme right wing organization that owns more TV stations than anyone else and insists that their local news follow the company line. 3) What you are mad about is those news outlets that report facts rather than echo trump. That's it, isn't it NJWC? You're a trump supporter who hates those damn fake news outlets for telling the truth! 4) enough politics.
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    Best Ever PSU wrestler

    This is one of those topics where one's own opinion is all that matters. No amount of argument from others is going to change that opinion, nor will your arguments sway others to change theirs. I've been watching PSU more or less since the '60s. I had one brother who was with Lehigh (wrestling behind Caruso) then, so I didn't follow PSU so much, just how they related to the Engineers. But my other bro gave Matter a battle in a dual and I followed him and became a Lion fan from the 70's on. And though there were several great ones before, Caels influence must change all opinions. For artistry, originality, pure offense, and drama, Cael's kids have done it all. For me to select one as 'the greatest' is no problem. But in a week my opinion might be different. I'm a great David Taylor fan. Ed Ruth threw a cradle and it was lights out. Zain may be the bestest hammer on top ever. He brings the pain and the points. Jason Nolf is simply the most creative wrestler I've ever seen. And if he needs to wrestle on one foot, he can completely change his style to accomplish that. Been following Joseph since he was a 106 pound 9th grader. I've always loved his heart, and now it looks like his hips are immovable. Mark Hall has the best 'feel' for what's happening on the mat of anyone I've ever seen. Even while losing the finals this year, he had a transcendental scramble with an outstanding Valencia. And Bo brings high drama and total excitement to the mat. For me to pick one of them is easy, but I'd pick someone else next week. Think I'll rotate them by week.
  6. Good to see some compassion on a forum. This is close to being a political issue as well as a social issue because of Jordan's position in the House. But it probably shouldn't be. Jordan's camp has circled the wagons and is apparently applying pressure on people in a position to know what went on to keep their mouths shut. Jordan's knee jerk reaction was to deny, deny. But now that denial is coming back to bite him on the butt. Some of the witnesses to this sordid mess make a very good case that Jordan MUST have known about what was going on since it was often discussed in the locker room. A couple of wrestlers who are his strong political supporters gave very convincing statements that Jordan's must have had knowledge of what was gong on. Who knows what Jordan should have/could have done at that time. Given the circumstances, who knows what they themselves would have done? But Jordan has dug himself a bit of a hole. Don't think it will hurt his career, but maybe he can learn something about truthiness.
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    Ohio State scandal

    That's called 'blaming the victim'. Filing charges or even admitting abuse always seems difficult if not impossible by the abused. That's why there is so much of it. But don't blame the victim. Blame the abuser.
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    Modern Era of Wrestling

    I think a part of it was the explosion of youth wrestling. When we started our program, SE PA had two youth leagues. The league covering the largest area had about 6 teams. Within 5 years that league had 23 teams. This was the late '70s, early '80s. Year round wrestling had started by then and you could find tournaments in July. Our teams would have a dual on Saturday and a tournament on Sunday. Kids were wrestling 80-100 bouts a year. They would wrestle folkstyle during the regular season, then switch to freestyle for the off-season. I saw the improvement in the quality of wrestling at the high school level - there was a lag of a few years, IMO, as kids worked their way through the system. And there was an explosion of new styles and new moves in the 80's as well. And Gene Mills turned people on to the tilt, and caused a change in the scoring system: technical falls, majors. I recall Mills winning the semi-finals of NCAA's something like 28-4! And once tilts took over, they found new ways to do it. Changes in style, conditioning, practice techniques were all part of '80s culture. And kids had been wrestling since they were 6 years old. By the time those kids reached college, they had a lifetime of experience and training. I had a friend in the '60s who was a 2x NCAA D1 finalist. He started wrestling in his Junior year of high school! How likely would that be today?
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    Comparing dynasties

    When I started wrestling, Yojiro Uetake was the greatest wrestler in the world. 50 years later I gotta include him in my top 3 of all time. (Feel free to speculate who the other 2 are.) Who couldn't be impressed with Okie State at that time, or Iowa a couple of decades later. Both inspired programs. I'm truly over the top about Penn State now because they are so much fun to watch. Guys like Jason Nolf and Bo Nickal win style points for their creativity. I guess today's style of wrestling is just more spectator friendly because of improvements in technique and coaching. I can remember sounding/feeling like an old fogie because I always claimed that wrestlers from my time (read Okie State/Lehigh/Oklahoma/etc.) were every bit as good as those then currently wrestling. I no longer make that claim. Wrestling is the best it's ever been. Period. Thank goodness I'm still around to watch it.
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    Northwestern - Cody Brewer

    I actually coached Storniolo when he was 6-7 years old. Even then I told his mother he was going to be a star. He could fold his body like a pretzel and come out the other side. I too thought he didn't have much of a chance to succeed, given the state of NW's team when he took over. But he certainly has it moving in the right direction.
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    Easton Coach

    You're correct, never wrestled a 3 day tourney. I did wrestle quite a few two days, some with an additional pound allowance, some with no additional pound. I can remember carrying a match to its full length because I really needed to get a sweat going in order to make weight the next morning. When I wrestled, I took responsibility for making weight. I coached for 20 years and I gave my wrestlers the respect to make weight as a part of their own commitment to an event. I never had a kid who didn't make weight at a post-season tourney, two day tourneys included. And I had nothing to do with it. I just let my kids know they were in control of their own destiny and they accepted that responsibility.
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    Easton Coach

    and now a report has come out criticizing the Easton administration's lack of openness and communication during Jamar's dismissal. Important information was not given to some administrators but the ax fell on Billman almost instantly. Why? That's still to be answered. When I wrestled, the 'making weight' problem hung over my head all through high school and college (till I caught the Hong Kong flu and lost 14 pounds in two weeks lying in bed- that year making weight was easy.) My coaches assumed I knew what weight I had to make, period, including during multi-day tournaments. When I was at states I spent the night before in a wet suit with the heat turned up in my room, trying to sweat off those final couple of pounds. I don't remember my coach hanging over my shoulder telling me to make it or asking me if I was going to make it. If I didn't make it it was on me, not him. You don't make it into the final day of states not knowing the rules if you are sane. What, was the kid six years old? I have no sympathy for the kid. And the kid's grandpa should be drawn and quartered. I hate to be political, but in today's environment, the first thing people do when something is wrong is to blame someone else. Billman's race perhaps made placing that blame even easier than if he were white. I don't want to use the 'race' card, but grandpa's words and deeds make it unavoidable. The kid should have taken responsibility for his own actions -- but in today's America, that's not the popular option.
  13. I was at matside at the Beast of the East maybe a decade ago when Kenny Courts was a 135 lb freshman wrestling for Central Dauphin in the finals. It was early in the first period when Courts seriously hurt his knee. He was in major pain but he continued to wrestle. Then he would have to take a break. Then he would continue again, then have to stop again. Courts ran out of injury time. He had just a couple seconds left. The next break he took would be his last and he would forfeit the finals. With his last possible start on top, Courts somehow stacked his opponent and decked him. It was the bravest performance I've ever seen by a wrestler. Kenny was through for the year. You gotta respect a kid that pulls something like that off.
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    best college hwt?

    Jim Nance deserves to be in the conversation: a heavyweight who wrestled like a lightweight. Nance is in the Patriot's Hall of Fame. He led the AFL in rushing, He was a 2x NCAA champ. And name one other guy that had a weight class created just for him.
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    Spencer Lee vs Suriano prediction thread

    re: the Jersey argument--- I wrestled and coached against a number of Jersey kids, and a lot of them had that element of trying to out-tough their opponents. I'd come off the mat with scratches on my face and a generally lousy attitude. But they never beat me or my kids. OTOH, I've known plenty of Jersey kids who were finesse wrestlers. I had a good buddy who was an NJ state champ who was the most artful staller I ever knew. He could untie his shoe laces from any position. re: Suriano vs Lee --- NS hasn't given up a point yet in the tourney. But Lee looks like he's finally back from those injuries that slowed him the last couple of years. As great as Suriano is, I just can't see him stopping Spencer Lee. 9-3 Lee