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    oldcougar got a reaction from TobusRex in My Ringer Beat Your Ringer   
    I was coaching youth wrestling.  We had a meet for the league championship.  The other coach cheated with his kids at every opportunity, hiding kids, lying about weight classes and then protesting - 'we don't have time to do weigh-ins', etc.  The previous year our teams met for the championship and he won by cheating, so I was ready for him the next year.   
    It was going to be a close meet.  He came to me and said, "I have a kid from the Jr Hi who is looking for a bout. He's pretty good, but not great. Okay if we set one up?"  The kid was a ringer and I knew it.  The kid ended up as a PA state place winner in high school.  What the other coach didn't realize that I had brought my own ringer.    So I said, "I have a kid who came along to watch the meet.  He's in Jr Hi and is pretty good, too.  Let's set it up."
    My ringer beat his ringer.  We won the dual by 6 points.
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    oldcougar got a reaction from 5inaRow in Best NCAA Championship Match of All-Time   
    You got the Nickal vs Martin part right. You just missed the year. 2018 with the team title on the line, Nickal appears to go to his back, tOSU fans go nuts. Nickal elevates. tOSU fans crash. 
    It was a thing of beauty.
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    oldcougar got a reaction from BadgerMon in Coaching ?   
    My high school coach never wrestled in high school,  started as a freshman in college and never made the team again. By the time he was a senior he was the team manager. He could barely play tennis and was too small for football.  
    When I was in school, his wrestling team was undeated, his football team was undefeated, and his tennis team was un-scored on. That means all singles and doubles were undefeated in matches, and he had the doubles state champs. He is in the PIAA wrestling hall of fame. 
    A coach needs to communicate and inspire, regardless of the sport. 
    Another coach I was a camp councilor for, was the most successful coach in Long Island history. He never wrestled,  but he kinda founded the sport in New York State.  National Wrestling Hall of Fame member. 
    So, no, a coach doesn't have to have been a star wrestler. But he better be knowledegable.
     
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    oldcougar got a reaction from KTG119 in What makes Mark Hall so good?   
    most are getting it right.  He wrestles like he has multiple brains controlling different parts of his body. I cannot recall anyone with more mat sense that Markie, and I've been watching wrestling for 60 years.
    It's uncanny how he can seem to be in an untenable situation when he moves a knee or subtly shifts his weight and suddenly he's on top! It's inspiring to watch.  
     
      
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    oldcougar got a reaction from TobusRex in Looking back, who had the better career Nickal or Nolf?   
    Two of the most awesome wrestlers ever. And i'm old enough to have seen most of them.
    Nolf's constant pressure kind of revolutionized a lot of people's thinking about how to approach a match. The 'play defense and win by a point' style of an Iowa, Nolf has thrown out the window. 
    Bo knows throws. And Bo seems to wrestle best on the biggest stage, at the most important moments. It's inspiring to see. 
    I mostly feel sadness that their college careers are over. Both have given me some of my favorite wrestling highlights, and I've been watching since 1958. For people to say definitvely that one's career was 'better' than the other is specious. Their numbers were close enough to be almost identical, but their paths were different enough to make each totally unique. 
    What an honor, what a pleasure it was to see them perform their very special talents for four years. Each should be considered on his own merits, without some artificial comparison by people who couldn't hold their wrestling shoes.
     
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    oldcougar got a reaction from pamela in Looking back, who had the better career Nickal or Nolf?   
    Two of the most awesome wrestlers ever. And i'm old enough to have seen most of them.
    Nolf's constant pressure kind of revolutionized a lot of people's thinking about how to approach a match. The 'play defense and win by a point' style of an Iowa, Nolf has thrown out the window. 
    Bo knows throws. And Bo seems to wrestle best on the biggest stage, at the most important moments. It's inspiring to see. 
    I mostly feel sadness that their college careers are over. Both have given me some of my favorite wrestling highlights, and I've been watching since 1958. For people to say definitvely that one's career was 'better' than the other is specious. Their numbers were close enough to be almost identical, but their paths were different enough to make each totally unique. 
    What an honor, what a pleasure it was to see them perform their very special talents for four years. Each should be considered on his own merits, without some artificial comparison by people who couldn't hold their wrestling shoes.
     
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    oldcougar got a reaction from TobusRex in Coaching ?   
    My high school coach never wrestled in high school,  started as a freshman in college and never made the team again. By the time he was a senior he was the team manager. He could barely play tennis and was too small for football.  
    When I was in school, his wrestling team was undeated, his football team was undefeated, and his tennis team was un-scored on. That means all singles and doubles were undefeated in matches, and he had the doubles state champs. He is in the PIAA wrestling hall of fame. 
    A coach needs to communicate and inspire, regardless of the sport. 
    Another coach I was a camp councilor for, was the most successful coach in Long Island history. He never wrestled,  but he kinda founded the sport in New York State.  National Wrestling Hall of Fame member. 
    So, no, a coach doesn't have to have been a star wrestler. But he better be knowledegable.
     
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    oldcougar got a reaction from stp in Best High School Team Ever?   
    Lock Haven HS in 1961.  They had 4 PIAA champs, and 5 of their team placed 9 times at NCAA's.  Two of those Lock Haven teammates met in the NCAA consolation finals one year. They were pretty good.
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    oldcougar got a reaction from jeffrideal in Best High School Team Ever?   
    Lock Haven HS in 1961.  They had 4 PIAA champs, and 5 of their team placed 9 times at NCAA's.  Two of those Lock Haven teammates met in the NCAA consolation finals one year. They were pretty good.
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    oldcougar got a reaction from stp in Who's the most hated coach in college wrestling?   
    you're like those trump people who can't let Hillary go. Dake and Taylor are both world champs at different weights. Give it up.
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    oldcougar got a reaction from TBar1977 in Barstool Sports Vincenzo Joseph Interview   
    I've been following Cenzo since he was a HS freshman.  At PA states that year he placed 7th at 106 - a pretty tough weight class with Ethan Lizak, Michael Kemmerer, and Scottie Parker in the bracket.  I liked Cenzo then because he was so small but with so much poise and determination.  As a soph, Cenzo was 3rd at 120.  Cenzo kept growing.  Junior Cenzo was state champ at 138, with a bracket including Mike Kemmerer, Hayden Hidlay, and Kaleb Young.   Senior Cenzo was state champ at 152, with a bracket including Young, Josh Maruca, and Mikey Labriola.  
    It ain't easy winning states in Pennsylvania.  But the more Vincenzo Joseph grew, the more he won.  
    Joseph has extraordinary core strength.  And he wrestles with uncanny calmness.  He's lost a couple of matches when he just decided to get into a shoot out.  But it looks like he learned from indulging in his excesses.  Because when he wrestles within himself and under control, Cenzo looks to be pretty unbeatable.  
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    oldcougar got a reaction from HurricaneWrestling in Best Ever PSU wrestler   
    This is one of those topics where one's own opinion is all that matters.  No amount of argument from others is going to change that opinion, nor will your arguments sway others to change theirs.  
     
    I've been watching PSU more or less since the '60s. I had one brother who was with Lehigh (wrestling behind Caruso) then, so I didn't follow PSU so much, just how they related to the Engineers.  But my other bro gave Matter a battle in a dual and I followed him and became a Lion fan from the 70's on.  
    And though there were several great ones before, Caels influence must change all opinions. For artistry, originality, pure offense, and drama, Cael's kids have done it all.  For me to select one as 'the greatest' is no problem.  But in a week my opinion might be different.  I'm a great David Taylor fan.  Ed Ruth threw a cradle and it was lights out. Zain may be the bestest hammer on top ever.  He brings the pain and the points.  Jason Nolf is simply the most creative wrestler I've ever seen.  And if he needs to wrestle on one foot, he can completely change his style to accomplish that.  Been following Joseph since he was a 106 pound 9th grader.  I've always loved his heart, and now it looks like his hips are immovable.  Mark Hall has the best 'feel' for what's happening on the mat of anyone I've ever seen.  Even while losing the finals this year, he had a transcendental scramble with an outstanding Valencia.
    And Bo brings high drama and total excitement to the mat. 
     
    For me to pick one of them is easy, but I'd pick someone else next week.     Think I'll rotate them by week.
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    oldcougar got a reaction from TBar1977 in Best Ever PSU wrestler   
    This is one of those topics where one's own opinion is all that matters.  No amount of argument from others is going to change that opinion, nor will your arguments sway others to change theirs.  
     
    I've been watching PSU more or less since the '60s. I had one brother who was with Lehigh (wrestling behind Caruso) then, so I didn't follow PSU so much, just how they related to the Engineers.  But my other bro gave Matter a battle in a dual and I followed him and became a Lion fan from the 70's on.  
    And though there were several great ones before, Caels influence must change all opinions. For artistry, originality, pure offense, and drama, Cael's kids have done it all.  For me to select one as 'the greatest' is no problem.  But in a week my opinion might be different.  I'm a great David Taylor fan.  Ed Ruth threw a cradle and it was lights out. Zain may be the bestest hammer on top ever.  He brings the pain and the points.  Jason Nolf is simply the most creative wrestler I've ever seen.  And if he needs to wrestle on one foot, he can completely change his style to accomplish that.  Been following Joseph since he was a 106 pound 9th grader.  I've always loved his heart, and now it looks like his hips are immovable.  Mark Hall has the best 'feel' for what's happening on the mat of anyone I've ever seen.  Even while losing the finals this year, he had a transcendental scramble with an outstanding Valencia.
    And Bo brings high drama and total excitement to the mat. 
     
    For me to pick one of them is easy, but I'd pick someone else next week.     Think I'll rotate them by week.
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    oldcougar got a reaction from Eagle26 in Best Ever PSU wrestler   
    This is one of those topics where one's own opinion is all that matters.  No amount of argument from others is going to change that opinion, nor will your arguments sway others to change theirs.  
     
    I've been watching PSU more or less since the '60s. I had one brother who was with Lehigh (wrestling behind Caruso) then, so I didn't follow PSU so much, just how they related to the Engineers.  But my other bro gave Matter a battle in a dual and I followed him and became a Lion fan from the 70's on.  
    And though there were several great ones before, Caels influence must change all opinions. For artistry, originality, pure offense, and drama, Cael's kids have done it all.  For me to select one as 'the greatest' is no problem.  But in a week my opinion might be different.  I'm a great David Taylor fan.  Ed Ruth threw a cradle and it was lights out. Zain may be the bestest hammer on top ever.  He brings the pain and the points.  Jason Nolf is simply the most creative wrestler I've ever seen.  And if he needs to wrestle on one foot, he can completely change his style to accomplish that.  Been following Joseph since he was a 106 pound 9th grader.  I've always loved his heart, and now it looks like his hips are immovable.  Mark Hall has the best 'feel' for what's happening on the mat of anyone I've ever seen.  Even while losing the finals this year, he had a transcendental scramble with an outstanding Valencia.
    And Bo brings high drama and total excitement to the mat. 
     
    For me to pick one of them is easy, but I'd pick someone else next week.     Think I'll rotate them by week.
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    oldcougar got a reaction from TobusRex in Ohio State scandal   
    you right wing ideologues amuse me.  It's gospel to you about the 'communist', 'left wing' media. 
     
    1) why do you bring your weird political opinions to a wrestling website?  Don't we get enough of this crap elsewhere?
     
    2) Most of the 'main stream media' is owned by just a few companies.  Leftist is the last thing you could call them.  I'm not just talking about Faux News and Sinclair, an extreme right wing organization that owns more TV stations than anyone else and insists that their local news follow the company line. 
     
    3) What you are mad about is those news outlets that report facts rather than echo trump.  That's it, isn't it NJWC?  You're a trump supporter who hates those damn fake news outlets for telling the truth! 
     
    4) enough politics.
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    oldcougar got a reaction from Cletus_Tucker in Best Ever PSU wrestler   
    This is one of those topics where one's own opinion is all that matters.  No amount of argument from others is going to change that opinion, nor will your arguments sway others to change theirs.  
     
    I've been watching PSU more or less since the '60s. I had one brother who was with Lehigh (wrestling behind Caruso) then, so I didn't follow PSU so much, just how they related to the Engineers.  But my other bro gave Matter a battle in a dual and I followed him and became a Lion fan from the 70's on.  
    And though there were several great ones before, Caels influence must change all opinions. For artistry, originality, pure offense, and drama, Cael's kids have done it all.  For me to select one as 'the greatest' is no problem.  But in a week my opinion might be different.  I'm a great David Taylor fan.  Ed Ruth threw a cradle and it was lights out. Zain may be the bestest hammer on top ever.  He brings the pain and the points.  Jason Nolf is simply the most creative wrestler I've ever seen.  And if he needs to wrestle on one foot, he can completely change his style to accomplish that.  Been following Joseph since he was a 106 pound 9th grader.  I've always loved his heart, and now it looks like his hips are immovable.  Mark Hall has the best 'feel' for what's happening on the mat of anyone I've ever seen.  Even while losing the finals this year, he had a transcendental scramble with an outstanding Valencia.
    And Bo brings high drama and total excitement to the mat. 
     
    For me to pick one of them is easy, but I'd pick someone else next week.     Think I'll rotate them by week.
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    oldcougar got a reaction from TobusRex in Best Ever PSU wrestler   
    This is one of those topics where one's own opinion is all that matters.  No amount of argument from others is going to change that opinion, nor will your arguments sway others to change theirs.  
     
    I've been watching PSU more or less since the '60s. I had one brother who was with Lehigh (wrestling behind Caruso) then, so I didn't follow PSU so much, just how they related to the Engineers.  But my other bro gave Matter a battle in a dual and I followed him and became a Lion fan from the 70's on.  
    And though there were several great ones before, Caels influence must change all opinions. For artistry, originality, pure offense, and drama, Cael's kids have done it all.  For me to select one as 'the greatest' is no problem.  But in a week my opinion might be different.  I'm a great David Taylor fan.  Ed Ruth threw a cradle and it was lights out. Zain may be the bestest hammer on top ever.  He brings the pain and the points.  Jason Nolf is simply the most creative wrestler I've ever seen.  And if he needs to wrestle on one foot, he can completely change his style to accomplish that.  Been following Joseph since he was a 106 pound 9th grader.  I've always loved his heart, and now it looks like his hips are immovable.  Mark Hall has the best 'feel' for what's happening on the mat of anyone I've ever seen.  Even while losing the finals this year, he had a transcendental scramble with an outstanding Valencia.
    And Bo brings high drama and total excitement to the mat. 
     
    For me to pick one of them is easy, but I'd pick someone else next week.     Think I'll rotate them by week.
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    oldcougar got a reaction from BigTenFanboy in Best Ever PSU wrestler   
    This is one of those topics where one's own opinion is all that matters.  No amount of argument from others is going to change that opinion, nor will your arguments sway others to change theirs.  
     
    I've been watching PSU more or less since the '60s. I had one brother who was with Lehigh (wrestling behind Caruso) then, so I didn't follow PSU so much, just how they related to the Engineers.  But my other bro gave Matter a battle in a dual and I followed him and became a Lion fan from the 70's on.  
    And though there were several great ones before, Caels influence must change all opinions. For artistry, originality, pure offense, and drama, Cael's kids have done it all.  For me to select one as 'the greatest' is no problem.  But in a week my opinion might be different.  I'm a great David Taylor fan.  Ed Ruth threw a cradle and it was lights out. Zain may be the bestest hammer on top ever.  He brings the pain and the points.  Jason Nolf is simply the most creative wrestler I've ever seen.  And if he needs to wrestle on one foot, he can completely change his style to accomplish that.  Been following Joseph since he was a 106 pound 9th grader.  I've always loved his heart, and now it looks like his hips are immovable.  Mark Hall has the best 'feel' for what's happening on the mat of anyone I've ever seen.  Even while losing the finals this year, he had a transcendental scramble with an outstanding Valencia.
    And Bo brings high drama and total excitement to the mat. 
     
    For me to pick one of them is easy, but I'd pick someone else next week.     Think I'll rotate them by week.
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    oldcougar got a reaction from silver-medal in Ohio State scandal   
    That's called 'blaming the victim'.  Filing charges or even admitting abuse always seems difficult if not impossible by the abused. That's why there is so much of it.  But don't blame the victim.  Blame the abuser.  
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    oldcougar got a reaction from stp in Flo's silence on the Ohio State accusations & Jim Jordan story   
    Good to see some compassion on a forum.  This is close to being a political issue as well as a social issue because of Jordan's position in the House.  But it probably shouldn't be.  Jordan's camp has circled the wagons and is apparently applying pressure on people in a position to know what went on to keep their mouths shut.  Jordan's knee jerk reaction was to deny, deny.  But now that denial is coming back to bite him on the butt.  
     
    Some of the witnesses to this sordid mess make a very good case that Jordan MUST have known about what was going on since it was often discussed in the locker room.  A couple of wrestlers who are his strong political supporters gave very convincing statements that Jordan's must have had knowledge of what was gong on.
     
    Who knows what Jordan should have/could have done at that time. Given the circumstances, who knows what they themselves would have done?  But Jordan has dug himself a bit of a hole.  Don't think it will hurt his career, but maybe he can learn something about truthiness.
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    oldcougar got a reaction from killdozer in Flo's silence on the Ohio State accusations & Jim Jordan story   
    Good to see some compassion on a forum.  This is close to being a political issue as well as a social issue because of Jordan's position in the House.  But it probably shouldn't be.  Jordan's camp has circled the wagons and is apparently applying pressure on people in a position to know what went on to keep their mouths shut.  Jordan's knee jerk reaction was to deny, deny.  But now that denial is coming back to bite him on the butt.  
     
    Some of the witnesses to this sordid mess make a very good case that Jordan MUST have known about what was going on since it was often discussed in the locker room.  A couple of wrestlers who are his strong political supporters gave very convincing statements that Jordan's must have had knowledge of what was gong on.
     
    Who knows what Jordan should have/could have done at that time. Given the circumstances, who knows what they themselves would have done?  But Jordan has dug himself a bit of a hole.  Don't think it will hurt his career, but maybe he can learn something about truthiness.
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    oldcougar got a reaction from Coach_J in Flo's silence on the Ohio State accusations & Jim Jordan story   
    Good to see some compassion on a forum.  This is close to being a political issue as well as a social issue because of Jordan's position in the House.  But it probably shouldn't be.  Jordan's camp has circled the wagons and is apparently applying pressure on people in a position to know what went on to keep their mouths shut.  Jordan's knee jerk reaction was to deny, deny.  But now that denial is coming back to bite him on the butt.  
     
    Some of the witnesses to this sordid mess make a very good case that Jordan MUST have known about what was going on since it was often discussed in the locker room.  A couple of wrestlers who are his strong political supporters gave very convincing statements that Jordan's must have had knowledge of what was gong on.
     
    Who knows what Jordan should have/could have done at that time. Given the circumstances, who knows what they themselves would have done?  But Jordan has dug himself a bit of a hole.  Don't think it will hurt his career, but maybe he can learn something about truthiness.
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    oldcougar got a reaction from wrestlingphish in Flo's silence on the Ohio State accusations & Jim Jordan story   
    Good to see some compassion on a forum.  This is close to being a political issue as well as a social issue because of Jordan's position in the House.  But it probably shouldn't be.  Jordan's camp has circled the wagons and is apparently applying pressure on people in a position to know what went on to keep their mouths shut.  Jordan's knee jerk reaction was to deny, deny.  But now that denial is coming back to bite him on the butt.  
     
    Some of the witnesses to this sordid mess make a very good case that Jordan MUST have known about what was going on since it was often discussed in the locker room.  A couple of wrestlers who are his strong political supporters gave very convincing statements that Jordan's must have had knowledge of what was gong on.
     
    Who knows what Jordan should have/could have done at that time. Given the circumstances, who knows what they themselves would have done?  But Jordan has dug himself a bit of a hole.  Don't think it will hurt his career, but maybe he can learn something about truthiness.
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    oldcougar got a reaction from ThatLogSchuteWasCarrying in Ohio State scandal   
    That's called 'blaming the victim'.  Filing charges or even admitting abuse always seems difficult if not impossible by the abused. That's why there is so much of it.  But don't blame the victim.  Blame the abuser.  
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    oldcougar got a reaction from LoStNuMbEr in Comparing dynasties   
    When I started wrestling, Yojiro Uetake was the greatest wrestler in the world.  50 years later I gotta include him in my top 3 of all time. (Feel free to speculate who the other 2 are.)
     
    Who couldn't be impressed with Okie State at that time, or Iowa a couple of decades later.  Both inspired programs.  I'm truly over the top about Penn State now because they are so much fun to watch.  Guys like Jason Nolf and Bo Nickal win style points for their creativity.  I guess today's style of wrestling is just more spectator friendly because of improvements in technique and coaching.  I can remember sounding/feeling like an old fogie because I always claimed that wrestlers from my time (read Okie State/Lehigh/Oklahoma/etc.) were every bit as good as those then currently wrestling.  
    I no longer make that claim.  Wrestling is the best it's ever been.  Period.  Thank goodness I'm still around to watch it.
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