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  1. There is a paradigm shift in wrestling. And proper strength training is proving to be necessary in this sport.

     

    For too long, wrestlers have bucked any notion that scientific evidence is better than "wrestling is different." Look no further than my Iowa Hawkeyes. Those guys are behind the times in adding muscle mass. Its the great equalizer to the "Cut Weight" mythos. Because wrestlers have been so stubborn on the subject of strength training, "making the cut" has been ethos in terms of being a strength equalizer.

     

    Is it no wonder Phil Keddy and Chad Beatty had their best seasons after lifting with football strength and conditioning coach Chris Doyle?

     

    And guess what? Wrestlers SHOULD be lifting like the football team - only with less rest. Please refer to Nick Heflin. Didn't cut a pound, ends up in the national finals, and literally, is LESS THAN A SECOND away from a national title. The difference? He lifted with the football team (is now a strength coach for them) and applied it to wrestling.

     

    The old ways of ONLY circuit lifting are being scientifically proven to do almost nothing for the sport of wrestling. Yes, it makes you tougher, yes you move those muscles and burn them out, and make your conditioning better. But it is far more important to lift, lift heavy, lift explosively and do it with less rest.


  2. This:

     

    125 - Conaway (Low AA)

    133 - Gulibon (Low AA)

    141 - Beitz (Low AA)

    149 - Alton (3rd - 8th)

    157 - Alton (3rd - 8th)

    165 - Shakur (Non-Qualifier)

    174 - Matt Brown (1st - 5th)

    184 - McCutcheon (Low AA)

    197 - McIntosh (5th - 8th)

    285 - Lawson (Low AA)

     

    Penn State could be looking at a possible 9 All-Americans. Not likely, but all will be ranked near the top 8. My finishes above are *best case* scenario. There is no Penn State next year, with a Ruth and Taylor producing bonus points like an assembly line. The real question, is will Sanderson pull a 'John Smith' and bring someone out of redshirt due to injury? I don't see him doing it if a starter has productivity issues. But if someone in that starting lineup gets hurt, Cael's going to have a hard time justifying starting anyone other than one of those redshirts.


  3. "Appreciation" no longer exists. Hasn't existed for a LONG time. Those were only awarded for a High-Arching, feet to back, and if the ref had a jones for you, I guess.

     

    There are two separate 1-point "holds" that have fans/coaches/wrestlers continually scratching their head:

     

    Correct hold - This is an old one, has been on the books and in use for as long as I can remember. This is a one point given for a throw that is executed and your opponent's feet are in the air and he rotates. Imagine someone countering an arm throw in a cartwheel-esque manner.

     

    Almost/near takedown - I saw this called in the Pico match at Cadet Worlds last year, and it completely baffled me. This is a one point for getting to a leg and putting the wrestler in danger. Literally, and I shi*t you not, think of it as a score in the ball grab era *facepalm*


  4. Greco, at its core, is a sport for a great 'athlete.' It is no secret that the best athletes are identified and moved to greco in the Russian system.

     

    It is the reason for the success of a majority of the medal winners. Its no reason that our best wrestlers/medalists had supreme athleticism (Lester, Byers, Mango). It is clear that we are a step behind technically, and to some extent athletically in some areas.

     

    The USOEC, losing Ivan and some/most of its financial support is a BIG reason for the success we had, and the success we no longer have. USA Greco is making a big mistake if they are not bringing Ivan back. It should preferably be at the USOEC, with a significant pay raise.


  5. Got news for you, Sammie's not building anything at WV. He'll be there for 2 or 3 years until he gets a better offer and then he'll be gone. This is his 8th college coaching job, and I don't think he's stayed at any of them for more than 2 years. He is a good coach, but not somebody you could base the future of your program on.

     

     

    Dude. Get off it. That was as an Assistant Coach. Barring getting fired (which won't happen) or leaving for a BIG TIME job the likes of an Iowa, Penn St., Missouri (alma mater), et al. He's not going anywhere for a while. Being an assistant coach isn't the most luxurious lifestyle (see, Frayer, Jared) and his constant movement in search of a better opportunity ($$$), is a knock wrestling fans need to get over.


  6. bravo young man.

     

    Proved us all wrong. It was a close match, a truly close match, and not just by score. I didn't think he'd be able to move Gatsalov as much as he did.

     

    Watching that match, it makes me re-think Slay's decision to only wrestle Snyder at the Junior level... He would finish second to Varner, and would give Varner a tough go.


  7. Interesting conversation, and something I'm working on right now...

     

    Cael Sanderson. He's a right leg lead, who wrestles with a left leg lead. His offense starts with his ankle pick, so he's able to use his strong hand (right hand) for his collar tie. Notice that all of offense after the ankle pick ends in a righty offense. His Hi-C, his single, his front headlock, are all right handed.

     

    Cejudo played with this a bit as well. Being able to attack both sides and with both legs. I've become a bigger and bigger fan of the Jordan Trained/Jeff Jordan State Champ Camp system. He doesn't believe in Hi-Cs and I see his point to some degree. So it's a single to both sides. See Micah Jordan as a blueprint for what a single to both sides brings.

     

    tell iran hi-c's don't work.

     

    High School and Collegiately I mean. I can't link it at work, but the: wrestlingcoachacademy.com has an article on the scoring at NCAAs. A Head-Inside Single reigns supreme. With as good as guys are getting at scrambling, it almost makes ALMOST no sense to hit a HI-C in folkstyle. It's an easier attack to defend.


  8. Interesting conversation, and something I'm working on right now...

     

    Cael Sanderson. He's a right leg lead, who wrestles with a left leg lead. His offense starts with his ankle pick, so he's able to use his strong hand (right hand) for his collar tie. Notice that all of offense after the ankle pick ends in a righty offense. His Hi-C, his single, his front headlock, are all right handed.

     

    Cejudo played with this a bit as well. Being able to attack both sides and with both legs. I've become a bigger and bigger fan of the Jordan Trained/Jeff Jordan State Champ Camp system. He doesn't believe in Hi-Cs and I see his point to some degree. So it's a single to both sides. See Micah Jordan as a blueprint for what a single to both sides brings.


  9. Interesting conversation, and something I'm working on right now...

     

    Cael Sanderson. He's a right leg lead, who wrestles with a left leg lead. His offense starts with his ankle pick, so he's able to use his strong hand (right hand) for his collar tie. Notice that all of offense after the ankle pick ends in a righty offense. His Hi-C, his single, his front headlock, are all right handed.

     

    Cejudo played with this a bit as well. Being able to attack both sides and with both legs. I've become a bigger and bigger fan of the Jordan Trained/Jeff Jordan State Champ Camp system. He doesn't believe in Hi-Cs and I see his point to some degree. So it's a single to both sides. See Micah Jordan as a blueprint for what a single to both sides brings.


  10. In this post, you are being BOTH, arrogant and obnoxious. Arrogant because you believe it is Maple's lack of technique that failed him this year (proven wrong). Then when proven wrong you publicly proclaim that your statement contains "truth." - Obnoxious.

     

    Vhsalum, say whatever you want, but I have not been proven wrong. Not in reality at least, maybe in your imagination.

     

    Marty, it's okay. You were proven wrong. I'm sure you'll never admit to it. But it's ok.


  11. In this post, you are being BOTH, arrogant and obnoxious. Arrogant because you believe it is Maple's lack of technique that failed him this year (proven wrong). Then when proven wrong you publicly proclaim that your statement contains "truth." - Obnoxious.

     

    Vhsalum, say whatever you want, but I have not been proven wrong. Not in reality at least, maybe in your imagination.

     

    Marty, it's okay. You were proven wrong. I'm sure you'll never admit to it. But it's ok.


  12. Again... What. In. The world is wrong with you? You are no better than the fat coach who tells an athlete to 'cut weight.' And no better than the critic in the stands, who's seen a few too many technique DVDs and concludes EVERY LOSS can be contributed to technique. Wake up! Wrestling is about FAR MORE than technique. You're venturing into Marty territory here. You continue to denigrate athletes, even after your stated reason is proven wrong.

     

    Vhsalum, what I said about Maple has absolutely not been proven wrong. If you insist it has, could you explain how?

     

    Your f'ing trolling on an athlete with a medical condition, asshat. THAT IS how you are WRONG.

     

    Why are you so upset Tbar? I'm not trolling. Every post I have ever made here is a serious post. Maple's unfortunate medical condition does not take away from the truth of my statements.

     

    THIS. This is why you are douchebag. The definition of the word: "a pejorative term for an arrogant or obnoxious person."

     

    In this post, you are being BOTH, arrogant and obnoxious. Arrogant because you believe it is Maple's lack of technique that failed him this year (proven wrong). Then when proven wrong you publicly proclaim that your statement contains "truth." - Obnoxious.

     

    I'm calling you Marty from now on.


  13. Again... What. In. The world is wrong with you? You are no better than the fat coach who tells an athlete to 'cut weight.' And no better than the critic in the stands, who's seen a few too many technique DVDs and concludes EVERY LOSS can be contributed to technique. Wake up! Wrestling is about FAR MORE than technique. You're venturing into Marty territory here. You continue to denigrate athletes, even after your stated reason is proven wrong.

     

    Vhsalum, what I said about Maple has absolutely not been proven wrong. If you insist it has, could you explain how?

     

    Your f'ing trolling on an athlete with a medical condition, asshat. THAT IS how you are WRONG.

     

    Why are you so upset Tbar? I'm not trolling. Every post I have ever made here is a serious post. Maple's unfortunate medical condition does not take away from the truth of my statements.

     

    THIS. This is why you are douchebag. The definition of the word: "a pejorative term for an arrogant or obnoxious person."

     

    In this post, you are being BOTH, arrogant and obnoxious. Arrogant because you believe it is Maple's lack of technique that failed him this year (proven wrong). Then when proven wrong you publicly proclaim that your statement contains "truth." - Obnoxious.

     

    I'm calling you Marty from now on.


  14. Again... What. In. The world is wrong with you? You are no better than the fat coach who tells an athlete to 'cut weight.' And no better than the critic in the stands, who's seen a few too many technique DVDs and concludes EVERY LOSS can be contributed to technique. Wake up! Wrestling is about FAR MORE than technique. You're venturing into Marty territory here. You continue to denigrate athletes, even after your stated reason is proven wrong.

     

    Vhsalum, what I said about Maple has absolutely not been proven wrong. If you insist it has, could you explain how?

     

    No Marty.


  15. Does anyone believe that Maple is a great technician on his feet?

     

    The kid's father comes on here and passionately tells us about a medical condition and you, superold, are still pounding your little drum. There is something very wrong with you.

     

    To papa maple, thanks for sharing your son's story. Please accept the rest of this msg. board's wishes that Kendrick solve his medical issue to the fullest extent. Best wishes to your son and family.

     

    I didn't see that post. I just now saw it. If true, that's unfortunate for Maple. With that said, and with all due respect to Mr./Mrs. Maple, what I said about Maple's technique stands. I would have said the same thing last season too.

     

    Again... What. In. The world is wrong with you? You are no better than the fat coach who tells an athlete to 'cut weight.' And no better than the critic in the stands, who's seen a few too many technique DVDs and concludes EVERY LOSS can be contributed to technique. Wake up! Wrestling is about FAR MORE than technique. You're venturing into Marty territory here. You continue to denigrate athletes, even after your stated reason is proven wrong.


  16. I posted this in an earlier thread about Maple:

     

    Maple is not that good on his feet. He has great quickness/explosiveness, but he is lacking in technique. His TD setups are usually very poor. Of course he has decent setups sometimes, but he lacks consistency. Imo, he's not even close to being a legitimate contender for the World team right now. With that said, he has a lot of potential, and if he adds one or two solid go to TDs to his arsenal, he will be a problem for anyone currently on the circuit imo. He has the necessary physical attributes. Now he needs to develop the skills to go with it. I think he should be further along than where he is right now.

     

    And what you posted earlier, as you have in the past, is PATENTLY WRONG. If you are a wrestling coach, jesus I feel bad for your wrestlers. Technique is NOT the answer to every wrestler's pitfalls. And I know for a fact, that, it had nothing to do with Maple's regression.


  17. Gulibon needs to brush up on his technique and match strategy/tactics too. I always hear the size issue brought up with Gulibon, but never the technique issue. He really let many PSU fans down this year with his performance. I wonder what his future looks like. Will Conaway be challenging for 133 next year?

    Name a PSU fan that Gulibon let down with his performance.

     

    Don't include a question in your response, either.

     

    Just the names of us Penn Staters that you claim he let down.

     

    Get to it...

     

     

    That's right, Old Marine Wrestler.

     

    superold is basically just a troll, and this post you called him out for is a prime example. He's a clever troll, but a troll none the less.

     

     

    He's the worst kind of troll. One with no variety. He's a 'technique' troll.


  18. Tbar, are you afraid to give your specific college prediction for Marsteller for some reason? I've asked you multiple times, and you continue to beat around the bush.

     

    superold, you'd be fortunate if I gave you the time of day after the way you have acted in MANY threads. Grow up first, then start making stupid demands of people. If you are lucky as all get out then maybe, MAYBE, someone will decide you are worth conversing with.

     

    Tbar, have I ever insulted you? I don't think I have. If I did, please name the time. You've insulted me on many occasions, and have offered no apology. So you can't be serious about mentioning the way I have acted in threads when I haven't done or said anything that's on par with the things you have said. Stop trying to turn the tables and play the victim. What's sad is that you have to muster up in your imagination insults that I've made towards Marsteller just so you can somehow justify your behavior on this board. That's very sad Tbar. If you're honest with yourself you'd agree with that. You know that many of your claims have no basis in reality. Just look at this last post that you've made to me. If I grow up then maybe someone will converse with me? Really? Look at all the back and forth that I've had on this very thread. Look at the discussions that have had on other threads. Reality has escaped you.

     

     

    And instead of replying to me with accusations, why don't you simply just give a specific prediction? Are you afraid to give a prediction for some reason?

     

     

    Tbar, i got cho back son!

     

    Yo superold, lemme spell it out fa you SON! Tbar said he mad tired of yo ish. Sez you ak like a spoiled, insecure only child and shizz. He will answer yo questions, when you ak like a adult. One who don't insult kidz and can participate in meaningful dialogue YO!


  19. Again, you don't get to make that choice. It is clear from the 10 pages of thread, that I am the clear victor. The consensus from ALL who have replied (other than your, old, self) is that my arguments pass the proverbial taste test. Yours sour in the mouth of a newborn.

     

    In the words of 2004, "YOU GOT SERVED!"

     

    But according to your own posts I "win". Claim "victory" all you want. You are clearly emotionally invested in this one. :) Trying to ignore poor technique by claiming a significant strength disadvantage (which went unproven btw) is laughable at best.

     

     

    And the crowd goes - BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!! BOO the lack of evidentiary accountability!!!! BOOOOOOOOOO!!!!! BOO the lack of any superold providing any further analysis after being soundly refuted by vhsalum! BOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!! BOO superold for not listing any college coaches that agreed with him, as he purported in earlier statements, and then was silenced when vhsalum named ten of his own!!!!!! BOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!! BOO superold for having all of his questions answered and not answering any of vhsalum's!!!!!! BOOOOOOOOOO!!!!! BOO superold for not saying vhsalum agreed with your major points, even though he has illustrated in minute detail that he does not!!!! BOOOOOO!!!!!!! BOO superold for being crotchety and clearly in need of pain medications!!!!!!! BOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!! BOO we say!

     

    Jeez. The masses have spoken.

     

    What college coaches did you list btw? Are you talking about college coaches who believe that Marsteller showed perfect technique in his match with Rhoads? If not, I'm not sure what your point is.

     

    So, like, umm... I was TOTALLY, like, joking with you, like, that, you suck at reading comprehension.

     

    But now its clear. You suck at reading comprehension. My list of college coaches maintained that AS A HIGH SCHOOLER, he had ADVANCED technique AND FUNDAMENTALS for a Division I wrestler. I also posted one quote by a coaches who said that Chance (as a sophomore) was better than guys in their room and one quote who intimated Chance would have won big tens at 149 that year. So again, here is the list of colleges where-in a coach on staff TOLD ME that Chance was ready to compete in college while still in high school. And they say he would have done BETTER THAN 'well.' This goes to your SECOND, MAJOR POINT, that I do not agree with, that Chance needs better fundamentals to do 'well' at the college level:

     

    Cornell

    Penn State

    Michigan State

    OTC

    Air Force

    Iowa

    NC STATE

    Arizona State

    Missouri

    Rutgers

    Virginia.

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