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    vhsalum got a reaction from Jasonmitchell32 in 74KG -- 2017   
    J'Den is a different breed.  Talks a lot about not wanting his legacy to only be about wrestling.  He's serious about the 2020 Olympics, but 2017 Worlds?  I don't think he cares.  He had to be convinced to even wrestle at the Trials.  He definitely wants a *break* and a different challenge.  He'll NEVER have the opportunity to play football again, a sport which he loves.  Wrestling?  It's clear he'll have that for as long as he wants to compete.
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    vhsalum got a reaction from de4856 in It's Hit the Fan!   
    Abdullahgadzhi,
     
    Understand, there is cultural difference between the two nations.  While state-sponsored doping and match-fixing are a staple of Russian sports (see: Tsargush vs. Saitiev).  That doesn't exist here in America.  So much so, that we go after our own heroes (ask Lance Armstrong)
     
    Instead of throwing up a picture of cartoon stick figure, why don't you give us a little perspective from your side of the ocean?  
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    vhsalum got a reaction from Coach_J in It's Hit the Fan!   
    Abdullahgadzhi,
     
    Understand, there is cultural difference between the two nations.  While state-sponsored doping and match-fixing are a staple of Russian sports (see: Tsargush vs. Saitiev).  That doesn't exist here in America.  So much so, that we go after our own heroes (ask Lance Armstrong)
     
    Instead of throwing up a picture of cartoon stick figure, why don't you give us a little perspective from your side of the ocean?  
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    vhsalum got a reaction from Housebuye in It's Hit the Fan!   
    Abdullahgadzhi,
     
    Understand, there is cultural difference between the two nations.  While state-sponsored doping and match-fixing are a staple of Russian sports (see: Tsargush vs. Saitiev).  That doesn't exist here in America.  So much so, that we go after our own heroes (ask Lance Armstrong)
     
    Instead of throwing up a picture of cartoon stick figure, why don't you give us a little perspective from your side of the ocean?  
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    vhsalum got a reaction from Alwayswrestling in Second Flo Officials Article   
    No.  It's not that simple and is not only the fault of the officers.  The numbers support a conspiracy in which the head knew and directed certain officials to certain matches.  What we saw at the Olympics, the obvious corruption, the officers being 'banned' - only one person assigned them to those matches.   Heads need to roll here.  But, alas, it is FILA, and they do not care.
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    vhsalum got a reaction from LemonPie in Mark Cody steps down as coach at Oklahoma   
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    vhsalum got a reaction from Ari Gold in I Really Enjoyed the Kyle Snyder at tOSU Era   
    Dear God, why do we have to keep rehashing this?  He is not leaving tOSU until his eligibility is complete.  He doesn't have to not take the money, and apparently he, AND EVERY OTHER NCAA/OLYMPIC MEDALIST, can spend the money as they please.  Right now.

    http://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/olympics/rio-2016/2016/08/21/kyle-snyder-gold-medal-bonus-ncaa/89078436/
     
    And yes, his parents have money.  They are doctors. He's fine guys.
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    vhsalum got a reaction from stp in I Really Enjoyed the Kyle Snyder at tOSU Era   
    Dear God, why do we have to keep rehashing this?  He is not leaving tOSU until his eligibility is complete.  He doesn't have to not take the money, and apparently he, AND EVERY OTHER NCAA/OLYMPIC MEDALIST, can spend the money as they please.  Right now.

    http://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/olympics/rio-2016/2016/08/21/kyle-snyder-gold-medal-bonus-ncaa/89078436/
     
    And yes, his parents have money.  They are doctors. He's fine guys.
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    vhsalum got a reaction from xander in 74kg discussion   
    Stop it. That's ridiculous.  He lost.  Not because of his mouth, but because of his performance.  He was saying the same things in 2011, 2012, 2013, 2014 and 2015.
     
    I will be interested to hear if something is/was wrong with him.  Injury-wise.  In his first match he just didn't look right after the first period.  Either way, he didn't have the gas tank we are accustomed to seeing.  and I don't mean that, Iowa-style. Iranian style gas tank.  I mean the, rope-a-dope, here comes the scramble and 7 shots in a row gas tank.  That he didn't fire off at the end of the 1st period says a lot.  He was biding his time.
     
    He DEFINITELY got too strategic, and I don't know if he didn't FEEL like he could fire off in the first, or was just content that Geduev would be the one put on the clock in the second.
     
    When he had the intent of scoring, he was 1-for-2.  He's always said he's fine with the missed opportunities because he has the gas tank to create another one.
     
    I am utterly depressed.  Can't believe I saw that happen.  Just my two cents, I hope he goes back to the lab.  It's clear, that when he wants to score he can, but those flurries are taking more out of him than in his younger days.  I hope he develops a score from a controlled tie.   He's always been smart enough to evolve.  I think he would be phenomenal with an "Iranian" underhook series.  Guess we'll have to wait and see.
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    vhsalum got a reaction from GranbyTroll in 74kg discussion   
    Stop it. That's ridiculous.  He lost.  Not because of his mouth, but because of his performance.  He was saying the same things in 2011, 2012, 2013, 2014 and 2015.
     
    I will be interested to hear if something is/was wrong with him.  Injury-wise.  In his first match he just didn't look right after the first period.  Either way, he didn't have the gas tank we are accustomed to seeing.  and I don't mean that, Iowa-style. Iranian style gas tank.  I mean the, rope-a-dope, here comes the scramble and 7 shots in a row gas tank.  That he didn't fire off at the end of the 1st period says a lot.  He was biding his time.
     
    He DEFINITELY got too strategic, and I don't know if he didn't FEEL like he could fire off in the first, or was just content that Geduev would be the one put on the clock in the second.
     
    When he had the intent of scoring, he was 1-for-2.  He's always said he's fine with the missed opportunities because he has the gas tank to create another one.
     
    I am utterly depressed.  Can't believe I saw that happen.  Just my two cents, I hope he goes back to the lab.  It's clear, that when he wants to score he can, but those flurries are taking more out of him than in his younger days.  I hope he develops a score from a controlled tie.   He's always been smart enough to evolve.  I think he would be phenomenal with an "Iranian" underhook series.  Guess we'll have to wait and see.
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    vhsalum got a reaction from treep2000 in Penn State-Hall to Redshirt   
    Taking a year off, in the past, has caused improvements for some of these young guys.  You can't say some and then add that "from a general perspective" and THEN ADD "I would prefer they ascend their own lives."  That's the whole point.  It's not your life.  It is also isn't your right to tell someone else how to live theirs.  Certainly there is free speech, but you are entitled to your wrong opinion, and be ready to be categorically wrong.  We are the only country in a RUSH, a rush to graduate high school, a rush to graduate college, a rush to start your career.  It doesn't matter.  It's not up for a discussion, because the facts prove you wrong.  In the same way that you may dislike an athlete graduating at 19, guess what?  The numbers are in his favor that he will be a more productive college student (graduation rate among males, 18 vs. 19) and athlete.  That, sir, make your comment ignorant at best.  
     
    And it sure is a good thing you are not a coach of any sort.  There is a such thing as a TEAM, and its why NCAA athletes graduate at a higher rate and have more success than their peers after graduation.  Sacrifice and humility.  Doing what is best for the team, despite your own thoughts on the subject.  You know, the things us old-timers say these millennials lack?
     
     
    To be fair, you don't know what you're talking about.  "Very few care about the team"  - Jesus.  First, that's a ridiculous thing to say, as it spits in the eye of what athletics is all about.  Second, you are, again, categorically, wrong about what most wrestlers want to do when they arrive on campus.  Third, you have no facts, no statistics or even anecdotal evidence to provide that would make your claims true.
     
    A far MAJORITY of wrestlers who arrive on campus want to redshirt.  And do you want to know why?  You are correct, that it very usually has little to do with the team.  Most of them can't get a takedown for the first semester.  Most of them realize there is another level when they enter collegiate wrestling.  And being that they CAN take a redshirt, and the rules allow them a free year to improve and better prepare them for 4 years of competition, they WANT to take it.  I'm not sure how many high-level wrestlers you have been around, but the redshirt year is an honorable thing.  Wrestlers want to be the best, and, in general, have a very patient way of dealing with this concept.  If you can't get a takedown in your room, why would you want to wrestle a waste a year.  As has been previously mentioned, there is no going pro in wrestling.  Very few will be able to compete post-collegiate.  Having as much success as you can with the four years available is very important.
     
    and what do you mean it sets his life back a year?  Holy hell.  You act like the life expectancy is 32!  Graduating college as an athlete is nothing more than a leg up.  Period.  Feel free to ask a recruiter near you.  The kid who graduates with a masters at 29, is he setting his life back a year?  I mean, he could just jump into the work-force at 17, complete his online degree and have experience right?  
     
    The point you seem to be forgetting is every NCAA athlete is a living embodiment of a Constitutional right - the right to the pursuit of happiness.  That is a RIGHT.  You are wrong both statistically and morally.  Please do us all a favor and keep your wrong opinions to yourself. 
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    vhsalum got a reaction from Alwayswrestling in 2016 Olympic Team and Worlds Comments   
    Here's why I say 5.
     
    57: Tony is right there with the World no. 2
    65: Green already has a medal
    74: The. Man
    86: I really do think David will be big enough to compete.  If he beats Herbet he CAN medal.  
    97: odds-on favorite
    125: a healthy Dlagnev is a consistent top 5.
     
    I think we CAN win 5 out of 6. Is it likely?  Course not.  
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    vhsalum got a reaction from Jim L in Living the Dream fund   
    Guys,
     
    He's all good.  He can keep the money.  Can't touch it until graduation, but yes, it is placed in a trust.  The LTD medal fund, not sure how they did it, but it is exempt from the "pay for play" rules of the NCAA.  Athlete can't touch it until he graduates, but he does not have to give it up either.
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    vhsalum got a reaction from Fishhook in Living the Dream fund   
    Guys,
     
    He's all good.  He can keep the money.  Can't touch it until graduation, but yes, it is placed in a trust.  The LTD medal fund, not sure how they did it, but it is exempt from the "pay for play" rules of the NCAA.  Athlete can't touch it until he graduates, but he does not have to give it up either.
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    vhsalum got a reaction from Cletus_Tucker in Pico's Future Weight   
    Wait, what????
     
    What is your deal?  What is wrong with Pico's "coaching" ? 
     
    His goal is to be a 2016 Olympic Gold Medalist.  How in the hell does that happen by the conventional route of wrestling a high school folkstyle season, wrestling high school counterparts, with conventional coaching?  It's quite clear the path to medaling young in Wrestling requires the exact type of coaching he is receiving, and the type of environment he is in.  Wrestling senior-level athletes and having ONE coach, focusing on ONE style.  Please ask Henry Cejudo how that worked out for him.
     
    Now. Ask the Russians, the Azeris, Iranians, the Japanese, the North Koreans, the Georgians, the Turks, how that has worked for THEIR countries?!
     
    idiot.
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    vhsalum got a reaction from sbdude in Hi-C popularity declining?   
    I'm not sure it's worth the trouble anymore...  For my guys, and this will be the first year, but we're not allowing HI-C's.  The risk/reward just isn't there.
     
    It's easier to defend, and you get put in more compromising situations than you would a head-inside single.  
     
    The guys who CAN hit it?  Lately, they've been freaks and/or compact.  Molinaro, Snyder, Tomasello,  Even Metcalf, with his lefty HI-C has been put in some pretty compromising situations at the highest levels.  Notice he changes off to a single A LOT more than he used to.
     
    In order to have a good HI-C, IF you are not a freak (i.e. getting to your feet is a "relatively" easy feat for you), your team had better be willing to spend a lot of time in the crack down position.  It's no wonder the Okie State boys still count this in their repertoire.
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    vhsalum got a reaction from DuckFor2 in UWW Juniors - 74kg   
    Oh my!  Please forgive me OH Omniscience One.  Humbly forgive my impudence! I kneel beneath thee in utter embarrassment of my pontification!
     
    To date: Pico has beaten the reigning World Champion, and finished 2nd in Junior World.  At this stage in his career he IS a Togrul Asgarov.  I apologize that you have seen the future and know that Pico isn't making next year's Olympic team!
     
    Pico does nothing EXCEPT get "exposure to seniors" - he trains with them, has competed against them, and more importantly, seeks training opportunities with foreign "senior" opponents.  He isn't 'going the Junior route."  He is attempting to wrestle in the Junior World championships, which IS optimal, as it is the breeding ground for the Olympic and World medals.  Feel free to look at the number of Junior World Champs who go on to represent their country in the Olympics/World Championships, the number MAY surprise you.
     
    This "american" concept of needing competition at the 'next' level is the biggest reason we don't do as well Internationally.  Pico is getting far more out of training with the Senior level Americans and foreigners than he would competing in the US Open.  It's ONE tournament. He isn't the favorite to win it, so I understand the 'patience' is coach is undertaking in this PROCESS that is preparing him for a run at an Olympic Medal.
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    vhsalum got a reaction from Cletus_Tucker in UWW Juniors - 74kg   
    Oh my!  Please forgive me OH Omniscience One.  Humbly forgive my impudence! I kneel beneath thee in utter embarrassment of my pontification!
     
    To date: Pico has beaten the reigning World Champion, and finished 2nd in Junior World.  At this stage in his career he IS a Togrul Asgarov.  I apologize that you have seen the future and know that Pico isn't making next year's Olympic team!
     
    Pico does nothing EXCEPT get "exposure to seniors" - he trains with them, has competed against them, and more importantly, seeks training opportunities with foreign "senior" opponents.  He isn't 'going the Junior route."  He is attempting to wrestle in the Junior World championships, which IS optimal, as it is the breeding ground for the Olympic and World medals.  Feel free to look at the number of Junior World Champs who go on to represent their country in the Olympics/World Championships, the number MAY surprise you.
     
    This "american" concept of needing competition at the 'next' level is the biggest reason we don't do as well Internationally.  Pico is getting far more out of training with the Senior level Americans and foreigners than he would competing in the US Open.  It's ONE tournament. He isn't the favorite to win it, so I understand the 'patience' is coach is undertaking in this PROCESS that is preparing him for a run at an Olympic Medal.
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    vhsalum got a reaction from rlw028 in UWW Juniors - 74kg   
    Tell that Togrul Asgarov...  After winning a senior medal at 55 kg in 2010, he wrestled Juniors in 2011 in preparation for the Olympics.  
     
    It's not unheard of, and some of you don't understand just how tough that Junior World tournament.  I like Pico's coach.  He's taking the time.  It's not like he isn't training and competing against the Seniors.  I would guess he has a goal of winning a Junior World goal.  Patience is far more important than most Americans realize.
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    vhsalum got a reaction from Glane18 in Something I noticed at Junior Worlds   
    I get your point, but the fact is, Wrestling isn't Football.  You don't have the "time" to change tactics. It's not MMA, where you have MONTHS to prepare for ONE opponent.
     
    Wrestling is just different in that manner.  Your job is to be YOUR best... be the best at YOUR attacks, have the ability to attack and have trained yourself to get to your best positions in a multitude of ways.  
     
    Not sure what wrestling fans expect see when you say "change tactics."  Do you want him to start moving/wrestling like Anthony Valencia?  It doesn't work like that.  You are correct on the Snyder observation.  Not sure I would have went back to that HI-C.  But what makes a wrestler great IS his stubbornness, to a certain extent.  This is my best move, and its my opponents job to stop it.  That confidence cannot be taken away in the middle of the match to "change tactics."
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    vhsalum reacted to vhsalum in Valencia Progress vs Pico Progress   
    Definitely Gatsalov's lefty HI-C.
     
    What's funny is, and is indicative of the Russian system in general, Gatsalov will shoot just to create action.  He'll literally shoot "just to shoot" and score from there.
     
    Now, how wise are the Russians/Gatsalov?  He was pretty much a head-inside single attacker at 120kg.  Shooting a HI-C against guys bigger than you just isn't that smart (see: Kyle Snyder v. Gergii Gogaev) 
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    vhsalum got a reaction from hasbeen in Valencia Progress vs Pico Progress   
    Yikes.  Wrong, wrong and some more wrong.
     
    A) You need Low Level attacks to win at the senior level.  No, you don't.  You NEED a mid-level attack.  Might want to look at the scoring breakdown of the World Championships and Olympics that can be found.  It's single leg (specifically categorized is "low-level attacks" - low single, ankle pick, etc.)
     
    B) Aaron hasn't progressed in his takedowns.  UMMM.... Yes. Yes, he has.  He debuted a misdirection/outside snatch single at Jr. Worlds.
     
    C) "How many Olympic champs start out as an age group athlete all the way through."   Ummm.... a MAJORITY of them.  The Russian system is based SOLELY on the relationship of a coach staying with ONE ATHLETE his entire career, from youth up.
     
    D) I understand your bias towards what the NLWC is doing CURRENTLY, but it's all cyclical.  There was a time here, just recently, I might add, that Oklahoma State was the place to train; a year ago which club had the most World Team Members?  That would be the Ohio RTC!
     
    E) " I'm talking development. From 1 yr to the next I see him doing the same thing which obviously he is great at but it gives the opposition something to figure out."  This tells me just how much wrestling you actually watch at the world level.  The best wrestlers in the world do ONE THING great (offensively) and combine that with great defense.  The second best wrestler in the world? Reza Yazdani.  Has a step on your foot single that he has mastered.  All of his offense starts from there.
     
    F) You might want to take a look at Burroughs FIRST World Championships.  He scored more often, and initiated more attacks with his single than his double.  This dude is an all-time great, RIGHT NOW.  You can't use him as a comparison to what EVERYONE else should be doing.  Pico is progressing and it's clear you are not seeing that.  He won a Cadet World Title last year. Won a Junior Silver as a first year Junior... a tournament that can be as tough as the Senior tournament on occasion.  And, I know that he is beating US Senior level athletes RIGHT NOW.  He is progressing just fine. 
     
    The point is, your claims that Pico will not reach his potential because of his coaching/training situation could not be further from the truth.
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