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  1. Jim Bennett of Yale won the 1975 NCAA tournament at 142 lbs as an unseeded wrestler. He had finished second in the EIWA losing to Pat Sculley. The next year he came in 4th at 150 in the weight that included Chuck Yagla, Pete Galea and Mark Churella. He lost in the EIWA finals to Ken Wilson of Syracuse.
  2. Lacrosse's origins are Native American.
  3. Lou Mascola from Maryland. Started last year, redshirted this year. Good freestyler - Fargo All-American.
  4. The other person they mentioned was Golic.
  5. Halfway through the last session today a nose tackle was taken, don't remember who, and it was mentioned he was a high school state champ. There followed a whole discussion about how many of the top nose tackles were former wrestlers. Curley Culp was named and someone else. I thought they would mention Kelly Gregg, but they didn't.
  6. It is the ten wrestlers who wrestle in the conference tournament and two others who also wrestled in at least one dual meet.
  7. Isn't the tournament in Turkey the one where Jordan lost to Marable? He wrestled back and took third.
  8. That last takedown looked after the buzzer to me. The ref had no idea when the period ended.
  9. Yes Zeeb I think you are correct here. As far as the Foundation though we are equal opportunity all the way. We want to start programs. Two of the ones we sponsored are men and women. Two are men only. We will do women only. Every one we start moves the ball forward.
  10. That is generally right. As I stated earlier and on a number of other threads when we have made these announcements many smaller colleges need enrollment. DII, DIII, NAIA. Mostly private colleges. There may even be some DI colleges concerned about enrollment. But in the particular DIII school I am referencing the coach told me that that is what the administration told HIM. That is how they saw it, not the coach. So in their circumstance they believe he was adding substantial revenue. And this school is a bit of a tweener - high academic standards and high tuition, but not the big time reputation and name recognition of some others. So maybe they have somewhat of an enrollment problem but I am not close enough to the situation to know.
  11. I started a thread about the new NAIA program at Warner Pacific in Oregon. There have now been 100 new programs added in the last ten years at all levels. The enrollment angle is what is driving this. The numbers of 18 year olds is down and schools need kids. Mike Moyer sells this relentlessly. The actual numbers will vary from school to school but Old Dirty's formula is basically right. The only missing piece is there is very likely a systematic discount from the stated tuition that all schools offer with the amount of the discount dependent on a variety of factors. One Division III coach who I won't name recently told me that his administration was estimating that the wrestling program had added $1.9 million to the school. Now this is a pretty high end academic school with high tuition but the number was impressive. And they were willing to add another part time ass't because of it.
  12. In response to the previous thread asking about the economics of new NAIA programs, I am posting the announcement of Warner Pacific, an NAIA school in Oregon starting new men's and women's programs. This is the fourth new program that has been started in part with grants provided by the US Wrestling Foundation working in partnership with the NWCA and USA Wrestling. These new programs are very much driven by the economics of schools who need enrollment. A new program is a net provider of funds to the school. The issue many schools have is the start up costs. That is where the US Wrestling Foundation is coming in and helping with grants. At our board meeting held between the quarters and semis at nationals we approved another grant for the NWCA to work with schools to help start programs. We would like to continue and grow this program. The release is below: Warner Pacific Wrestling Receives Grant from US Wrestling Foundation 3/19/2014 4:14:00 PM PORTLAND, Ore - Startup costs can be an obstacle to launching any new athletic program and wrestling is no different, but the newest sport on campus at Warner Pacific College received a major boost with a generous grant from the US Wrestling Foundation. "We are very thankful to the US Wrestling Foundation and the National Wrestling Coaches Association for their willingness to help," said Jamie Joss, Warner Pacific's Director of Athletics. "The ability to defray our costs as we begin our new wrestling teams will allow us to push forward with confidence in our inaugural season and improve the experience for our student-athletes." Warner Pacific will use the funds to purchase high quality mats for practice and competition, along with other equipment needs such as uniforms. "The United States Wrestling Foundation, in partnership with the National Wrestling Coaches Association and USA Wrestling, is exceedingly pleased to provide financial support to Warner Pacific as they initiate men's and women's wrestling," said Jeff Waters, Board President of the Foundation. "Wrestling has a long and deep tradition in the Pacific Northwest and we believe more college wrestling opportunities should be available to our men and women athletes." "There has never been a more important time for the wrestling community to be working together," said Mike Moyer, Executive Director of the National Wrestling Coaches Association. "Over 100 new collegiate wrestling programs have been established/re-established since 2001 and now that we have this partnership with the US Wrestling Foundation and USA Wrestling, we are in a great position to establish many more college teams over the next decade." Head Coach Frank Johnson is actively recruiting wrestlers for the fall, and Warner Pacific will compete in the sport for the first time since 1975.
  13. Yes Missouri should be added to the list. Brian Smith does a great job. So my next five would include the Tigers.
  14. Really great post and summary. I for one think it would be great to see some teams that have never won the championship break through. If you told me in the next four years tOSU, Cornell, Northwestern and Nebraska would win championships I would sign up for that right now. Would be very healthy.
  15. Teach's point about negativity is a good one. And Teach, if you think you are going to get a generally positive outlook on something here, you have come to the wrong place. This is a place where negativity rules. Of course there are many constructive posters but the overarching tone here is negative. That is just the way it is. As another example, many posters decry the loss of programs and threads will go on for pages. But when we post about a new program being started there is virtually not a peep. Maybe it is just the nature of these types of message boards. Your son is an elite person for accomplishing what he has. And he will get recognized for it in many ways throughout his life. Most wrestling people I know will hold him in high regard. Just not here.
  16. Didn't OSU have five AAs? What about Marsden?
  17. You are correct. Any thoughts on the establishment of a new wrestling program?
  18. NAIA. Huntingdon is DIII. Lyon is not the only NAIA looking to add women's also. The other school about to announce will also do both. This is also creating new opportunities for coaching positions. Chance to start a program from scratch. We want to do MUCH more of this. Next time we reach out to "The Silent Army" we hope more folks will enlist. Last year we just said we were going to do this. Now we have done it.
  19. Lyon College, an NAIA school in Arkansas, is starting a new men's and women's program. The US Wrestling Foundation is providing a grant to help with start-up costs. The release is below. This is the third new program that the Foundation has helped provide funding for including Huntingdon College, a DIII school in Alabama and Williams Baptist, also an NAIA school in Arkansas. This is a partnership between the Foundation, the NWCA and USA Wrestling. Also for the schools in Arkansas, Foundation Board member Greg Hatcher plays an integral role donating mats and other support. We have one more program that may issue a release imminently. We expect to continue providing support for the start-up of new DII, DIII, and NAIA programs who realize that wrestling is underserved and can bring enrollment to their schools and other benefits. Last year we had a Greatest College Wrestler Tournament online and asked people to donate to help start these programs. We had some donations and that money, along with funds from our generous board members, is what is leading to these announcements. Expect more in the future. Lyon receives wrestling grant from USWF $5,000 donation to help Scot programs with start-up costs MANHEIM, Pa. – With some help from Lyon College wrestling supporter Greg Hatcher of Little Rock, the Lyon College men and women’s wrestling programs are receiving a $5,000 grant from the United States Wrestling Foundation (USWF) and the National Wrestling Coaches Association (NWCA), according to Mike Moyer, Executive Director of the NWCA. The funds are available for start-up costs to assist institutions to join the growing number of colleges that are looking into starting the sport. Lyon College officially announced in August that it was starting men and women’s programs and will begin intercollegiate competition in the 2014-15 academic year. At that time there were 43 National Association of Intercollegiate Athletics (NAIA) institutions that sponsored the sport. Lyon becomes one of only five colleges in Arkansas that has wrestling and will put the first women’s program on the mat in the state. “With the support of the National Wrestling Coaches Association, we are able to build wrestling at the collegiate level in Arkansas,” said Lyon head wrestling coach Kevin Carter. “For Lyon College, the donation and support from the NWCA was a valuable step in getting our program moving in a positive direction.” Moyer said that the start-up grants for colleges is a way for the U.S. Wrestling Foundation to obtain more visibility and is good for the sport. “The purpose behind the grants is to provide incentives to get college wrestling programs started,” Moyer explained. “The NWCA partners with the foundation for these grants to help colleges across the country that are looking at the possibility to starting the program – or have decided to start – get going in a right direction.” Jeff Waters, Board President of the US Wrestling Foundation, said a big hurdle for many schools to start the sport is start-up costs, so grants such as this will help facilitate that. “There are a number of NCAA Division II, III and NAIA colleges that are either looking at starting the sport or are in the process of doing it,” Waters stated. “We feel (the grant) is a way to get colleges entrenched in parts of the country that might not have it. We’re just trying to be a catalyst. In addition, we are excited that Lyon is also starting a women’s program and we are finding increasing interest in the model of starting both men’s and women’s at the same time. Our partnership with the NWCA and USA Wrestling is building momentum around the country.” Lyon College plans to have 30-40 wrestlers on campus for the first year of competition and expand from those numbers in the second year.
  20. We watch every consolation match in every round. And then wait for the team score to be announced. The only time we left a session early was to compete in the NCAA Wrestling Trivia contest they had at Philly. Had to miss a few consi matches. But we won the tournament and free tickets to the next year's tournament and a pretty cool official NCAA chair. All those years of reading AWN when I was a kid finally paid off for something.
  21. Yes when I went back and looked at the bracket I noticed all those Long Island boys, many of them very familiar to me, especially Eddy Fiorvanti whom I almost beat in the 1976 Nassau County tournament (don't worry it only took me about 20 years to get over it). That was about the peak for Nassau County which I think went downhill for a while but seems to have rebounded here recently.
  22. Yes Hammer you are right it was Carl. I guess I had Bob's name on the brain as I was a senior when he won his first title. The two younger brothers, Carl and I think Albert, were also two time state champs. The oldest brother Ken, who I wrestled twice and didn't have my hand raised either time, was "only" a Nassau County runner-up! Poor slouch!
  23. That guy was Ed Pidgeon of Locust Valley High School on Long Island (same high school as ncaa champ bob Destefanis of penn st) and Hofstra. I remember his match with glenn. the place was rocking - huge early round upset. he also battled back and took fourth. impressive showing.
  24. I couldn't agree with you more JT. I have posted on here several times in support of Jason. And I have been up close with him as he recruited my son a few years ago and was a class act all the way. It is clear the apple hasn't fallen far from the tree. And the admissions standards for Stanford are as tough as it gets so he is working within that construct, which is not all negatives by any means but it still reduces the talent pool he can approach substantially.
  25. Since I am always trying to learn more about wrestling can someone tell me what happened in that match? How did the Hungarian win? There wasn't anything approaching an offensive move in that match.
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