Coach_J

If that was your mother, daughter or wife you’d probably feel differently

Would have to eliminate the tech.  Imagine Taylor going 15 rounds with Downey.  It would be something close to 70-5.

In college, I coached a young man named Ron Lucy.  In high school, Ron qualified for the Ohio state meet one time and won a total of zero matches at that level.  College, ended up beating the likes of NCAA Division I All-American Matt Suter (7th, Arizona State) and Big 10 3rd placer Will Knight (Ohio State).  He was recruited by zero Division I schools (in fact, I think my lowly NAIA school was the only one that gave him a phone call); nobody had him on the radar for college success and there wasn't one D-I college that would invest any time or money into helping him develop his potential. It took a giant investment in time and mentoring in this young man to help him reach that level of achievement.   I personally coached dozens of kids like this; so many more at other schools all across the country.  The whole cheapshot "if you don't want to work hard go to Augsburg" is ignorant BS.  May God bless the "lower" division wrestlers who do amazing things and work their tails off.  Oh, and he is now an immensely successful business man and a leader in his community.  Many ways to determine success.  This "lower" division guy has shown what heart and the true gifts of wrestling are all about.

no, some americans fix my pages i guess. Rashidov's page is mine, but i didnt do that. idk who gave him this nickname, it began after his victory over Logan at the 2017 world.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2021_Russian_National_Freestyle_Wrestling_Championships
 
Event Gold Silver Bronze 57 kg
details  Zaur Uguev  Nachyn Mongush  Abubakar Mutalimov  Azamat Tuskaev 61 kg
details  Abasgadzhi Magomedov  Muslim Mekhtikhanov  Chermen Tavitov  Aldar Balzhinimaev 65 kg
details  Gadzhimurad Rashidov  Zagir Shakhiev  Kurban Shiraev  Abdulmazhid Kudiev 70 kg
details  Israil Kasumov  Evgeniy Zherbaev  Chermen Valiev  Abdula Akhmedov 74 kg
details  Zaurbek Sidakov  Razambek Zhamalov  Magomed Kurbanaliev  Magomedrasul Gazimagomedov 79 kg
details  Malik Shavaev  Akhmed Usmanov  Gadzhi Nabiev  Radik Valiev 86 kg
details  Artur Naifonov  Dauren Kurugliev  Magomed Ramazanov  Akhmed Gadzhimagomedov 92 kg
details  Magomed Kurbanov  Anzor Urishev  Soslan Ktsoev  Azamat Zakuev 97 kg
details  Alikhan Zhabrailov  Aslanbek Sotiev  Znaur Kotsiev  Khokh Khugaev 125 kg
details  Sergey Kozyrev  Atsamaz Tebloev  Baldan Tsyzhipov  Anzor Khizriev

In college, I coached a young man named Ron Lucy.  In high school, Ron qualified for the Ohio state meet one time and won a total of zero matches at that level.  College, ended up beating the likes of NCAA Division I All-American Matt Suter (7th, Arizona State) and Big 10 3rd placer Will Knight (Ohio State).  He was recruited by zero Division I schools (in fact, I think my lowly NAIA school was the only one that gave him a phone call); nobody had him on the radar for college success and there wasn't one D-I college that would invest any time or money into helping him develop his potential. It took a giant investment in time and mentoring in this young man to help him reach that level of achievement.   I personally coached dozens of kids like this; so many more at other schools all across the country.  The whole cheapshot "if you don't want to work hard go to Augsburg" is ignorant BS.  May God bless the "lower" division wrestlers who do amazing things and work their tails off.  Oh, and he is now an immensely successful business man and a leader in his community.  Many ways to determine success.  This "lower" division guy has shown what heart and the true gifts of wrestling are all about.

In college, I coached a young man named Ron Lucy.  In high school, Ron qualified for the Ohio state meet one time and won a total of zero matches at that level.  College, ended up beating the likes of NCAA Division I All-American Matt Suter (7th, Arizona State) and Big 10 3rd placer Will Knight (Ohio State).  He was recruited by zero Division I schools (in fact, I think my lowly NAIA school was the only one that gave him a phone call); nobody had him on the radar for college success and there wasn't one D-I college that would invest any time or money into helping him develop his potential. It took a giant investment in time and mentoring in this young man to help him reach that level of achievement.   I personally coached dozens of kids like this; so many more at other schools all across the country.  The whole cheapshot "if you don't want to work hard go to Augsburg" is ignorant BS.  May God bless the "lower" division wrestlers who do amazing things and work their tails off.  Oh, and he is now an immensely successful business man and a leader in his community.  Many ways to determine success.  This "lower" division guy has shown what heart and the true gifts of wrestling are all about.

Not sure about some of the comments on this thread.  I've coached D-I, D-II, D-III, and NAIA.  Trust me, the kids at the "lower" levels work extremely hard but it's a different process of talent development.  My lower division teams were 11-8 against D-I teams, lost to the likes of Minnesota, Nebraska, Ohio State, and Michigan State, beat the likes of Northern Illinois, Illinois State, and Kent State (this was the year they were MAC runners-up, a very solid team).  We were tremendously outresourced by the D-I teams in terms of scholarship, facilities, travel and equipment budget, etc., so to compare the two is senseless, especially if it is to demean the effort levels put in by the guys who aren't D-I.  At the lower level, we rarely had a state champ on the roster, mostly guys who were 3rd or 5th or just state qualifiers; the growth and development process was much longer for those kids than having a 3 or 4-time state champ who's been to Fargo multiple times and all across the country competing come in with all the fundamentals fully intact. Many of the kids we got had very little coaching in high school and only a few training partners to push them--they hadn't even come close to meeting their potential.  Yes, the lower division kids worked just as hard and put in the same hours--it just took longer to master technique, tactics, and strategy.  And consider this, my first year we went to nationals, none of the national qualifiers had ever been on an airplane before. The great Tom Jarmon, who coached at both Northwestern and Manchester (D-I and D-III) summed it up best:  when he handed out work-out t-shirts at the D-III school at the beginning of the year, the most asked question was:  "Do we get to keep these?"

Not too shabby - thrid with the deck job in hershey.

In college, I coached a young man named Ron Lucy.  In high school, Ron qualified for the Ohio state meet one time and won a total of zero matches at that level.  College, ended up beating the likes of NCAA Division I All-American Matt Suter (7th, Arizona State) and Big 10 3rd placer Will Knight (Ohio State).  He was recruited by zero Division I schools (in fact, I think my lowly NAIA school was the only one that gave him a phone call); nobody had him on the radar for college success and there wasn't one D-I college that would invest any time or money into helping him develop his potential. It took a giant investment in time and mentoring in this young man to help him reach that level of achievement.   I personally coached dozens of kids like this; so many more at other schools all across the country.  The whole cheapshot "if you don't want to work hard go to Augsburg" is ignorant BS.  May God bless the "lower" division wrestlers who do amazing things and work their tails off.  Oh, and he is now an immensely successful business man and a leader in his community.  Many ways to determine success.  This "lower" division guy has shown what heart and the true gifts of wrestling are all about.

In college, I coached a young man named Ron Lucy.  In high school, Ron qualified for the Ohio state meet one time and won a total of zero matches at that level.  College, ended up beating the likes of NCAA Division I All-American Matt Suter (7th, Arizona State) and Big 10 3rd placer Will Knight (Ohio State).  He was recruited by zero Division I schools (in fact, I think my lowly NAIA school was the only one that gave him a phone call); nobody had him on the radar for college success and there wasn't one D-I college that would invest any time or money into helping him develop his potential. It took a giant investment in time and mentoring in this young man to help him reach that level of achievement.   I personally coached dozens of kids like this; so many more at other schools all across the country.  The whole cheapshot "if you don't want to work hard go to Augsburg" is ignorant BS.  May God bless the "lower" division wrestlers who do amazing things and work their tails off.  Oh, and he is now an immensely successful business man and a leader in his community.  Many ways to determine success.  This "lower" division guy has shown what heart and the true gifts of wrestling are all about.

If you look at the general picture of cross-division results from opens and the handful of neighborhood duals every year, a rule of thumb tends to be this: D2/D3/NAIA all-americans are D1 starter level and their champions are national qualifier level. A select few of those 30 lower-division champs each year would also be in the D1 AA hunt.

Not sure about some of the comments on this thread.  I've coached D-I, D-II, D-III, and NAIA.  Trust me, the kids at the "lower" levels work extremely hard but it's a different process of talent development.  My lower division teams were 11-8 against D-I teams, lost to the likes of Minnesota, Nebraska, Ohio State, and Michigan State, beat the likes of Northern Illinois, Illinois State, and Kent State (this was the year they were MAC runners-up, a very solid team).  We were tremendously outresourced by the D-I teams in terms of scholarship, facilities, travel and equipment budget, etc., so to compare the two is senseless, especially if it is to demean the effort levels put in by the guys who aren't D-I.  At the lower level, we rarely had a state champ on the roster, mostly guys who were 3rd or 5th or just state qualifiers; the growth and development process was much longer for those kids than having a 3 or 4-time state champ who's been to Fargo multiple times and all across the country competing come in with all the fundamentals fully intact. Many of the kids we got had very little coaching in high school and only a few training partners to push them--they hadn't even come close to meeting their potential.  Yes, the lower division kids worked just as hard and put in the same hours--it just took longer to master technique, tactics, and strategy.  And consider this, my first year we went to nationals, none of the national qualifiers had ever been on an airplane before. The great Tom Jarmon, who coached at both Northwestern and Manchester (D-I and D-III) summed it up best:  when he handed out work-out t-shirts at the D-III school at the beginning of the year, the most asked question was:  "Do we get to keep these?"

Not sure about some of the comments on this thread.  I've coached D-I, D-II, D-III, and NAIA.  Trust me, the kids at the "lower" levels work extremely hard but it's a different process of talent development.  My lower division teams were 11-8 against D-I teams, lost to the likes of Minnesota, Nebraska, Ohio State, and Michigan State, beat the likes of Northern Illinois, Illinois State, and Kent State (this was the year they were MAC runners-up, a very solid team).  We were tremendously outresourced by the D-I teams in terms of scholarship, facilities, travel and equipment budget, etc., so to compare the two is senseless, especially if it is to demean the effort levels put in by the guys who aren't D-I.  At the lower level, we rarely had a state champ on the roster, mostly guys who were 3rd or 5th or just state qualifiers; the growth and development process was much longer for those kids than having a 3 or 4-time state champ who's been to Fargo multiple times and all across the country competing come in with all the fundamentals fully intact. Many of the kids we got had very little coaching in high school and only a few training partners to push them--they hadn't even come close to meeting their potential.  Yes, the lower division kids worked just as hard and put in the same hours--it just took longer to master technique, tactics, and strategy.  And consider this, my first year we went to nationals, none of the national qualifiers had ever been on an airplane before. The great Tom Jarmon, who coached at both Northwestern and Manchester (D-I and D-III) summed it up best:  when he handed out work-out t-shirts at the D-III school at the beginning of the year, the most asked question was:  "Do we get to keep these?"

Wonder why people even need to comment on the difference between the different divisions...it's like no sh#@ sherlock!!  There is a reason there are 3 divisions and quite frankly it is great!!  Kudo's to any kid that can go to college and play a sport/wrestle.  I have hired hundreds of people in my career and the resume's of college kids who played sports/wrestled (or were farmers) ALWAYS moved up to the top.  Anyway, point is all these kids are hard workers, deserve respect, and shouldn't have to come on here and read about how their accomplishment at a certain level of wrestling is diminished in any sort of way.
Can't wait till next year when we can get back to "normal" and stupid idiots stop taking opportunities away from kids.  

I’ve done some announcing for Maryville and they asked me to help this year. I was on mat 4 on Friday and mat 2 today. It was a great tournament even with all the restrictions and less kids. 
 
Hopefully everything is back to normal next year cuz I’ll be back behind the mic again. 

Yes, exactly what happened at 157.  I needed draws like that back when I was competing!

The 2021 DIII tournament is not representative of DIII in general. Only 33 teams participated and there was no qualification. 80 teams did not take part. Nobody is putting seven in the semis this year if there's a full tournament.

Your point about the level is well made, though Wartburg won 165 and 174 against ISU to start the season. It's not that odd that the guys two levels down with no scholarships aren't as good as the best guys in DI.

Tough making 57 kilos--get hungry at the weirdest, uncontrollable times.

Tough making 57 kilos--get hungry at the weirdest, uncontrollable times.

Burroughs may have spent more time in Italy than Chamizo

Well at least we won’t have to hear from Blue Dragons for a while!

David Taylor has changed from being 0 worried about PDIII to being "negative worried."

Tough making 57 kilos--get hungry at the weirdest, uncontrollable times.

Tough making 57 kilos--get hungry at the weirdest, uncontrollable times.