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    Illifornia reacted to Illifornia in Health of the International Styles in the USA   
    I hear ya. Maybe I am complaining but it comes out of a genuine concern. Actually currently doing what I can to help and see some embers burning but it’s not enough. We have rescued a completely dead entity by us and quality and quantity have improved, but not to where I would see it as a complete success. Guess I think we need some paradigm shifts or even some professional consultants or something to come in and completely revamp the system because the old one is broken and not coming back. The days of major volunteerism and investing in the community are dead. But maybe it just needs a facelift and United professionalism.
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    Illifornia got a reaction from de4856 in Health of the International Styles in the USA   
    Our top level guys are doing great at the World Level and that is awesome. But one thing that is alarming is the relatively small numbers of actual participants in  grade level/age group events. For that matter, National level events can have tiny numbers. In the early/mid 90's it was easy to have 50-100 kids in one weight class at a state tournament. Now, the numbers are usually between 10 to 30. Local tournaments had 300+ total and now are lucky to break 100. 
     
    CA has been the #1 producer of Olympic talent over the years. But now, FS and GR Wrestling in Southern California is on life support. Sure there are some great athletes out competing, but its very hard to get people out. A little research will show the same exact thing all over the country. Heck, look at the numbers for Junior Freestyle for the state of ND at Fargo. The National Tournament is in the same town and they can't get people to go!
     
    There are plenty of potential explanations such as: most kids do not want to go get their ass kicked if they are not going to win, the coaching pool is declining, so and so governing body is at fault, etc. The thing is though that this needs to be addressed or the only people Wrestling these styles in 20 years will be the 5 best dudes in the country and no one else. And without age group and grassroots participants, there will be no Freestyle and Greco in America. 
     
    It is super awesome how great we are doing on the World Level, but I think there is some smoke and mirrors here. "Regional Training Centers" often consist of like 3 dudes who are there just to train with the college kids. We need to invest in the youth and developmental programs.
     
     I am seeing our governing body out here making some very needed changes so that is good. But the truth is youth Wrestling is light years behind up and coming youth sports in terms of professionalism and a branded product. Without pointing fingers and placing blame what are your thoughts on how to move forward and increase participants?
     
     
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    Illifornia got a reaction from BigTenFanboy in Snyder to WWE?   
    I do not even understand how anyone could be dumb enough to even equate the two things at all. 
     
    They have nothing to do with one another. Pro Wrestling does nothing to hurt amateur wrestling. 
     
    Pro wrestling has afforded some former Wrestlers a really good living. 
     
    Who gives a **** what Kyle Snyder does? Would you be mad if he became a rich businessman because of his name? God bless him if he went to WWE and became rich. (Even though he probably will not anyway.)
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    Illifornia got a reaction from pjm46 in Taha Akgul training at tOSU   
    Even without the sauce? Because I don’t count his results. Tervel should have a medal. It’s not like wasn’t juiced to the gills at the Olympics 4 years older than the one he got popped at.
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    Illifornia got a reaction from cjc007 in Taha Akgul training at tOSU   
    Even without the sauce? Because I don’t count his results. Tervel should have a medal. It’s not like wasn’t juiced to the gills at the Olympics 4 years older than the one he got popped at.
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    Illifornia got a reaction from Tofurky in Greatest wrestler from each State?   
    Wrong. JW was phenomenal though.
     
    http://articles.chicagotribune.com/2006-06-10/news/0606100066_1_wrestling-dana-point-olympic-committee
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    Illifornia got a reaction from 2td3nf in Jordan Burroughs   
    I don't get all the analysis on this guy losing a step. He looked fast as greased lightening at Worlds. He is tough as hell and incredible. He lost by 1 point to a most likely juiced to the gills Geduev and had a rough time after that loss.  This year back to the same old guy.
     
    Look back at all of his history and he has countless close matches that he has won at the end or came from behind to win. Its a great story that he has made all of these adjustments and all, well of course he has because he has to! He is probably the most frequently watched athlete in Wrestling history so of course others will adapt their game to him.
     
    Absolutely amazing wrestler. Hes waaaaay better now than he was before in all aspects of his game. There are some freakin mad scientist coaches out there that can coach against anyone's style. This obviously has happened with Burroughs and he still is unreal. No way has he lost a step. Its a great move by him to "play possum" but I do not believe it for a second. He is a stone killer and at his absolute best. And his best may just make some other guys be better than him. That is how it works sometimes.
     
    Either way, to me he is like watching the 85 Bears, Jordan Bulls, Tom Brady, etc. It will end at some point but what an amazing run and an absolute treat to witness. Being in person at his Gold in London was the coolest fan sports fan experience I have ever had.
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    Illifornia got a reaction from dtl38 in Jordan Burroughs   
    I don't get all the analysis on this guy losing a step. He looked fast as greased lightening at Worlds. He is tough as hell and incredible. He lost by 1 point to a most likely juiced to the gills Geduev and had a rough time after that loss.  This year back to the same old guy.
     
    Look back at all of his history and he has countless close matches that he has won at the end or came from behind to win. Its a great story that he has made all of these adjustments and all, well of course he has because he has to! He is probably the most frequently watched athlete in Wrestling history so of course others will adapt their game to him.
     
    Absolutely amazing wrestler. Hes waaaaay better now than he was before in all aspects of his game. There are some freakin mad scientist coaches out there that can coach against anyone's style. This obviously has happened with Burroughs and he still is unreal. No way has he lost a step. Its a great move by him to "play possum" but I do not believe it for a second. He is a stone killer and at his absolute best. And his best may just make some other guys be better than him. That is how it works sometimes.
     
    Either way, to me he is like watching the 85 Bears, Jordan Bulls, Tom Brady, etc. It will end at some point but what an amazing run and an absolute treat to witness. Being in person at his Gold in London was the coolest fan sports fan experience I have ever had.
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    Illifornia got a reaction from KTG119 in The one weight where we are like Russia   
    Joe Williams, Slay
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    Illifornia got a reaction from Peso in The one weight where we are like Russia   
    Joe Williams, Slay
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    Illifornia got a reaction from Chrissn2001 in What weight class in HS do you notice that speed and talent generally drop?   
    It's without question 170.
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    Illifornia reacted to BigTimeFan in 61 KG Discussion...   
    WOW ... close call for Ness. Almost got stuck there. 
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    Illifornia got a reaction from Abdullahgadzhi Khuzin in Migran Arutyunyan   
    Lalovic is also from Serbia correct? WOW.
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    Illifornia got a reaction from WreslingSuperior in Migran Arutyunyan   
    Lalovic is also from Serbia correct? WOW.
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    Illifornia got a reaction from Grecojones in Russia is out @ 57KG   
    While I am very skeptical of the Russians, this is unfair. If you are going to let the others in, then let in Bogomoev
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    Illifornia got a reaction from rd149 in Russia is out @ 57KG   
    While I am very skeptical of the Russians, this is unfair. If you are going to let the others in, then let in Bogomoev
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    Illifornia got a reaction from Alwayswrestling in Russia is out @ 57KG   
    While I am very skeptical of the Russians, this is unfair. If you are going to let the others in, then let in Bogomoev
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    Illifornia reacted to maligned in Lebedev Controversial Matches 2016 Nationals   
    I don't believe anything I've written here goes against JB (he's clearly got incredible knowledge and background) ...I'm more trying to highlight the "rhythm" of how passivity calls will feel to the viewer and the fallacy that somehow it won't be called because a guy doesn't seem to be stalling.  If there's no scoring happen, no matter what we feel like the rulebook is telling us; it is getting called without fail against the guy who is not the most aggressive.  
    The only point JB's made in this thread I would slightly disagree with is that Musukaev being put on the shot clock was a surprise.  Again, it's not that he was passive by definition, per se; it's that he was protecting a lead (which comes with its biases for passivity calls, too, by the way...it could be another point on my list) and Lebedev was the one that appeared the most aggressive with his urgency and snapdowns during that non-scoring stretch for nearly a minute leading up the shot clock.  No scoring. Passivity every time on someone.  That's how it's being called practically.
     
    By arm ties..I just mean an arm and wrist Russian-style tie.  
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    Illifornia got a reaction from stp in Myles Martin should have Redshirted   
    Think of the improvement....
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    Illifornia got a reaction from Coach_J in CTE in wrestling   
    Myself and teammates definitely concerned about what the future has in store for us.
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    Illifornia got a reaction from silver-medal in Climate of College Wrestling today   
    On the very positive side first:
     
    The increased professionalism and effort by college coaches today is ten fold. Almost gone are the days of unproven coaches getting their spots due to their Wrestling credentials. With Flo and the constant promotion of programs, up and comers are getting a great example of how high the bar is set and it makes everyone up their game. The right way to do things is spread all over, not just at Iowa. 
     
    Wrestlers seem to be much, much more behaved. It used to just be a given that College Wrestlers were fighting, partying on the regular. Now I am sure that this still happens, but the incidents are WAY down due to higher standards.
     
    Between the lack of professionalism and poor athlete conduct, I think this had a major impact on the dropping of programs as well. 
     
    On the negative side:
     
    It seems that less kids want to wrestle. You see tons of forfeits. It seems that less guys want to walk on programs if they are not already elite. This hurts in terms of workout partners and in dual meets when back ups are needed. 
     
    The season is still WAY too long. My opinion in a bit different but I feel it should be a Fall Semester sport. 
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    Illifornia got a reaction from Coach_J in Coach's Sons Coming Up   
    Carson Kharchilava, son of Miron Kharchilava. Watch out for that kid in the coming years.
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    Illifornia got a reaction from armspin in Ramos   
    Wow did he show class at the end of that Iran match. He had every right in the world to break the jaw off the side of Rahimi's face. That ref was awful for letting that stuff go on after that match.  Dude just shoved Ramos with no intervention or anything. Tony represented the US very well. That guy deserved to get hit hard for that threatening behavior. 
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