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    maj reacted to JeanGuy in Best Program Over Last Three Years--Ohio State?   
    It is always difficult for me to decide if international success has any bearing on where a college team should be "ranked."
     
    How much of Snyder's success is related to being in the tOSU room?  It is hard to quantify. 
     
    I think everyone would agree they have been one of the 5 best programs.  Ordering becomes subjective based upon what issues you rank as most important.
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    maj reacted to silver-medal in Maryland Coaching   
    Great Dane:  Love to buy your sales pitch but I can't.  McCoy is getting mauled in recruiting and ends up with too many guys just not cut out for the BT.  He'd be fine in the MAC.  Example:  Jamar Williams just committed to Ohio State over MD and his chances of cracking the Bucks lineup are slim.  He's not a big time prospect, he'd have been better off at Maryland but the Bucks talked him into coming just to add depth.  If you can't convince a kid like that to come to your program, you're not very good at this aspect of your job.  
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    maj reacted to GuillermoBilletas in Is Wrestling Doomed?   
    again
     
    flo isn't covering the forfeit fests that dominate non elite HS teams
     
    numbers are down.  period
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    maj reacted to Tofurky in Is Wrestling Doomed?   
    As someone who has been involved with the sport for roughly 30 years, I can't stand these sorts of kids tournaments. Honestly, it was a major reason why my oldest stopped wrestling and I was happy to not have to attend another one ever again.
     
    These giant mega tournaments are just cash cows for a lot of programs. Having 1,000 kids in a tournament at $20 a head (not including parents and fans paying to get in and eat) can be great for a club, but not for the families involved.
     
    One thing my son's old kids club started doing was going to dual meets where each kid would end up wrestling twice at a minimum. We were done in less than two hours and everyone was happy. Where you sacrifice money, you gain in parent/kid happiness that it is not their entire days spent so their kids can wrestle a total of eight minutes.
     
    One other local club would invite three to four other clubs into their room for an informal round robin tournament, not weigh kids in, but use an honor system and everyone was done in less than three hours. The best part is that parents couldn't be in the room because they needed space for kids to compete, so it significantly cut down on the craziness and the kids could focus on wrestling and then getting on with their lives.
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    maj got a reaction from Tofurky in Is Wrestling Doomed?   
    No magic to growing or maintaining high school numbers- build middle school and youth programs. In some areas of the country the demographics are going to make it difficult. I'm not sure what the breakdown of your figures is or where you got them but I suspect there was a drop in total enrollment for high school students is some traditional wrestling areas and all sports not just wrestling are affected.
     
    Obviously if you want to get kids wrestling , you have to sell the parents and not the ones on this board , they are already sold. Poorly run kids tournaments can KILL a potential wrestling family in it's tracks. I have seen many examples of parents and grandparents waiting hours for a tournament to start and between matches to watch their beginner kid get pinned in 20 seconds. A tournament that could be run in a couple hours takes all day and parents say I'm not doing this any more.  I've been out of youth wrestling for a while so this point may be moot, if there are any single elimination tournaments still going on that needs to stop forever. I made it a point never to put my kids in one even when they were favored to win it. I'd like to see weight classes relaxed , Madison weight type thing and kids wrestle 3-5 matches at every tournament, even if they lose them all. Some type of round robin or triple elimination should be looked at. Hard ass tournament directors who ax a 10 year old for missing weight can take their share of the blame for declining numbers. ( I am not talking about some national or even state championship event where standards need to be maintained ) if you have strict weight classes , bump the kid to the next one without penalty. It's not that hard to redraw a bracket with today's programs. Most start out with byes making it a no brainer. Bottom line- if you hook the kids in 4-8th grade the high school numbers will take care of itself, but you have to first consider the parents on the fence and make it as painless as possible to get them started.
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    maj got a reaction from PSUMike in Is Wrestling Doomed?   
    No magic to growing or maintaining high school numbers- build middle school and youth programs. In some areas of the country the demographics are going to make it difficult. I'm not sure what the breakdown of your figures is or where you got them but I suspect there was a drop in total enrollment for high school students is some traditional wrestling areas and all sports not just wrestling are affected.
     
    Obviously if you want to get kids wrestling , you have to sell the parents and not the ones on this board , they are already sold. Poorly run kids tournaments can KILL a potential wrestling family in it's tracks. I have seen many examples of parents and grandparents waiting hours for a tournament to start and between matches to watch their beginner kid get pinned in 20 seconds. A tournament that could be run in a couple hours takes all day and parents say I'm not doing this any more.  I've been out of youth wrestling for a while so this point may be moot, if there are any single elimination tournaments still going on that needs to stop forever. I made it a point never to put my kids in one even when they were favored to win it. I'd like to see weight classes relaxed , Madison weight type thing and kids wrestle 3-5 matches at every tournament, even if they lose them all. Some type of round robin or triple elimination should be looked at. Hard ass tournament directors who ax a 10 year old for missing weight can take their share of the blame for declining numbers. ( I am not talking about some national or even state championship event where standards need to be maintained ) if you have strict weight classes , bump the kid to the next one without penalty. It's not that hard to redraw a bracket with today's programs. Most start out with byes making it a no brainer. Bottom line- if you hook the kids in 4-8th grade the high school numbers will take care of itself, but you have to first consider the parents on the fence and make it as painless as possible to get them started.
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    maj reacted to JasonBryant in New College Program Eliminated Due to Travel.   
    School is basically broke. Heard even their porto-potties got repossessed. Probably the first of many cuts that are going to happen at the school. Excuse is horrible because the school is in SERIOUS financial trouble.
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    maj got a reaction from knox in Is Wrestling Doomed?   
    No magic to growing or maintaining high school numbers- build middle school and youth programs. In some areas of the country the demographics are going to make it difficult. I'm not sure what the breakdown of your figures is or where you got them but I suspect there was a drop in total enrollment for high school students is some traditional wrestling areas and all sports not just wrestling are affected.
     
    Obviously if you want to get kids wrestling , you have to sell the parents and not the ones on this board , they are already sold. Poorly run kids tournaments can KILL a potential wrestling family in it's tracks. I have seen many examples of parents and grandparents waiting hours for a tournament to start and between matches to watch their beginner kid get pinned in 20 seconds. A tournament that could be run in a couple hours takes all day and parents say I'm not doing this any more.  I've been out of youth wrestling for a while so this point may be moot, if there are any single elimination tournaments still going on that needs to stop forever. I made it a point never to put my kids in one even when they were favored to win it. I'd like to see weight classes relaxed , Madison weight type thing and kids wrestle 3-5 matches at every tournament, even if they lose them all. Some type of round robin or triple elimination should be looked at. Hard ass tournament directors who ax a 10 year old for missing weight can take their share of the blame for declining numbers. ( I am not talking about some national or even state championship event where standards need to be maintained ) if you have strict weight classes , bump the kid to the next one without penalty. It's not that hard to redraw a bracket with today's programs. Most start out with byes making it a no brainer. Bottom line- if you hook the kids in 4-8th grade the high school numbers will take care of itself, but you have to first consider the parents on the fence and make it as painless as possible to get them started.
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    maj got a reaction from ThatLogSchuteWasCarrying in Is Wrestling Doomed?   
    No magic to growing or maintaining high school numbers- build middle school and youth programs. In some areas of the country the demographics are going to make it difficult. I'm not sure what the breakdown of your figures is or where you got them but I suspect there was a drop in total enrollment for high school students is some traditional wrestling areas and all sports not just wrestling are affected.
     
    Obviously if you want to get kids wrestling , you have to sell the parents and not the ones on this board , they are already sold. Poorly run kids tournaments can KILL a potential wrestling family in it's tracks. I have seen many examples of parents and grandparents waiting hours for a tournament to start and between matches to watch their beginner kid get pinned in 20 seconds. A tournament that could be run in a couple hours takes all day and parents say I'm not doing this any more.  I've been out of youth wrestling for a while so this point may be moot, if there are any single elimination tournaments still going on that needs to stop forever. I made it a point never to put my kids in one even when they were favored to win it. I'd like to see weight classes relaxed , Madison weight type thing and kids wrestle 3-5 matches at every tournament, even if they lose them all. Some type of round robin or triple elimination should be looked at. Hard ass tournament directors who ax a 10 year old for missing weight can take their share of the blame for declining numbers. ( I am not talking about some national or even state championship event where standards need to be maintained ) if you have strict weight classes , bump the kid to the next one without penalty. It's not that hard to redraw a bracket with today's programs. Most start out with byes making it a no brainer. Bottom line- if you hook the kids in 4-8th grade the high school numbers will take care of itself, but you have to first consider the parents on the fence and make it as painless as possible to get them started.
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    maj got a reaction from HurricaneWrestling in Is Wrestling Doomed?   
    No magic to growing or maintaining high school numbers- build middle school and youth programs. In some areas of the country the demographics are going to make it difficult. I'm not sure what the breakdown of your figures is or where you got them but I suspect there was a drop in total enrollment for high school students is some traditional wrestling areas and all sports not just wrestling are affected.
     
    Obviously if you want to get kids wrestling , you have to sell the parents and not the ones on this board , they are already sold. Poorly run kids tournaments can KILL a potential wrestling family in it's tracks. I have seen many examples of parents and grandparents waiting hours for a tournament to start and between matches to watch their beginner kid get pinned in 20 seconds. A tournament that could be run in a couple hours takes all day and parents say I'm not doing this any more.  I've been out of youth wrestling for a while so this point may be moot, if there are any single elimination tournaments still going on that needs to stop forever. I made it a point never to put my kids in one even when they were favored to win it. I'd like to see weight classes relaxed , Madison weight type thing and kids wrestle 3-5 matches at every tournament, even if they lose them all. Some type of round robin or triple elimination should be looked at. Hard ass tournament directors who ax a 10 year old for missing weight can take their share of the blame for declining numbers. ( I am not talking about some national or even state championship event where standards need to be maintained ) if you have strict weight classes , bump the kid to the next one without penalty. It's not that hard to redraw a bracket with today's programs. Most start out with byes making it a no brainer. Bottom line- if you hook the kids in 4-8th grade the high school numbers will take care of itself, but you have to first consider the parents on the fence and make it as painless as possible to get them started.
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    maj got a reaction from cjc007 in Is Wrestling Doomed?   
    No magic to growing or maintaining high school numbers- build middle school and youth programs. In some areas of the country the demographics are going to make it difficult. I'm not sure what the breakdown of your figures is or where you got them but I suspect there was a drop in total enrollment for high school students is some traditional wrestling areas and all sports not just wrestling are affected.
     
    Obviously if you want to get kids wrestling , you have to sell the parents and not the ones on this board , they are already sold. Poorly run kids tournaments can KILL a potential wrestling family in it's tracks. I have seen many examples of parents and grandparents waiting hours for a tournament to start and between matches to watch their beginner kid get pinned in 20 seconds. A tournament that could be run in a couple hours takes all day and parents say I'm not doing this any more.  I've been out of youth wrestling for a while so this point may be moot, if there are any single elimination tournaments still going on that needs to stop forever. I made it a point never to put my kids in one even when they were favored to win it. I'd like to see weight classes relaxed , Madison weight type thing and kids wrestle 3-5 matches at every tournament, even if they lose them all. Some type of round robin or triple elimination should be looked at. Hard ass tournament directors who ax a 10 year old for missing weight can take their share of the blame for declining numbers. ( I am not talking about some national or even state championship event where standards need to be maintained ) if you have strict weight classes , bump the kid to the next one without penalty. It's not that hard to redraw a bracket with today's programs. Most start out with byes making it a no brainer. Bottom line- if you hook the kids in 4-8th grade the high school numbers will take care of itself, but you have to first consider the parents on the fence and make it as painless as possible to get them started.
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    maj got a reaction from xander in Is Wrestling Doomed?   
    No magic to growing or maintaining high school numbers- build middle school and youth programs. In some areas of the country the demographics are going to make it difficult. I'm not sure what the breakdown of your figures is or where you got them but I suspect there was a drop in total enrollment for high school students is some traditional wrestling areas and all sports not just wrestling are affected.
     
    Obviously if you want to get kids wrestling , you have to sell the parents and not the ones on this board , they are already sold. Poorly run kids tournaments can KILL a potential wrestling family in it's tracks. I have seen many examples of parents and grandparents waiting hours for a tournament to start and between matches to watch their beginner kid get pinned in 20 seconds. A tournament that could be run in a couple hours takes all day and parents say I'm not doing this any more.  I've been out of youth wrestling for a while so this point may be moot, if there are any single elimination tournaments still going on that needs to stop forever. I made it a point never to put my kids in one even when they were favored to win it. I'd like to see weight classes relaxed , Madison weight type thing and kids wrestle 3-5 matches at every tournament, even if they lose them all. Some type of round robin or triple elimination should be looked at. Hard ass tournament directors who ax a 10 year old for missing weight can take their share of the blame for declining numbers. ( I am not talking about some national or even state championship event where standards need to be maintained ) if you have strict weight classes , bump the kid to the next one without penalty. It's not that hard to redraw a bracket with today's programs. Most start out with byes making it a no brainer. Bottom line- if you hook the kids in 4-8th grade the high school numbers will take care of itself, but you have to first consider the parents on the fence and make it as painless as possible to get them started.
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    maj got a reaction from Jasonmitchell32 in Is Wrestling Doomed?   
    No magic to growing or maintaining high school numbers- build middle school and youth programs. In some areas of the country the demographics are going to make it difficult. I'm not sure what the breakdown of your figures is or where you got them but I suspect there was a drop in total enrollment for high school students is some traditional wrestling areas and all sports not just wrestling are affected.
     
    Obviously if you want to get kids wrestling , you have to sell the parents and not the ones on this board , they are already sold. Poorly run kids tournaments can KILL a potential wrestling family in it's tracks. I have seen many examples of parents and grandparents waiting hours for a tournament to start and between matches to watch their beginner kid get pinned in 20 seconds. A tournament that could be run in a couple hours takes all day and parents say I'm not doing this any more.  I've been out of youth wrestling for a while so this point may be moot, if there are any single elimination tournaments still going on that needs to stop forever. I made it a point never to put my kids in one even when they were favored to win it. I'd like to see weight classes relaxed , Madison weight type thing and kids wrestle 3-5 matches at every tournament, even if they lose them all. Some type of round robin or triple elimination should be looked at. Hard ass tournament directors who ax a 10 year old for missing weight can take their share of the blame for declining numbers. ( I am not talking about some national or even state championship event where standards need to be maintained ) if you have strict weight classes , bump the kid to the next one without penalty. It's not that hard to redraw a bracket with today's programs. Most start out with byes making it a no brainer. Bottom line- if you hook the kids in 4-8th grade the high school numbers will take care of itself, but you have to first consider the parents on the fence and make it as painless as possible to get them started.
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    maj reacted to jammen in Lobby the NCAA   
    to award the title to the 2nd place finisher.  You've all played giveaway checkers and know the skill level needed to win.  Let's see how good Penn State is at trying to place 2nd.
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    maj reacted to hammerlockthree in Gabe Dean   
    wonderfully disguised cornell bashing....
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    maj reacted to pennsyrules in Any hope for Maryland ?   
    Local points of interest are not as big a factor as many on this board may think.  And if they were, Maryland has a lot to offer with Ocean City Maryland, Washington DC, Baltimore and Annapolis all within an hour away.  I do believe the cost of Maryland and the success achieved by a program are key reasons why recruits aren't enamored with the University.  Maryland is a very good academic school among public universities and the campus is very nice and a lot of good looking women so it should be attractive to high school kids.  With very little success under McCoy, I believe you have to look at the head coach.
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    maj reacted to Jaroslav Hasek in Any hope for Maryland ?   
    Having eaten several meals in Richmond, I'm certain UVA has nothing to offer visiting recruits
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    maj reacted to WillieBoy in Brief Thoughts on Programs   
    Arizona State. Kids visiting the campus on recruiting trips have to be amazed at the warm and inviting atmosphere.
     
    If I were to choose based on location it would be Cal Poly San Luis Obispo. Right on the West Coast. Surfing and bathing suit beauties all over the place. No actual Winter at all. Get a Ryan, Cael or Smith there and they would be near the top of the pile.
     
    Cal State Bakersfield, Fresno and Boise State are all the same... Cleveland wannabees in the West.
     
    Then you have Wyoming and North Dakota to make Iowa look attractive.
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    maj reacted to RichB in Brief Thoughts on Programs   
    I guess someone is so obsessed with Lehigh's chocolate brown uniforms because, so many of the big shots at his school will soon be wearing the cocoa pink-brown uniforms of the Pennsylvania Department of Corrections. Don't worry, they won't dig up Saint Joe and put a DoC uniform on him.
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    maj reacted to BigTenFanboy in Brief Thoughts on Programs   
    Wow, someone certainly had a nerve frazzled! Saying Cael's career was second to none is an expression. Its deliberately vague but implies greatness. To say his career didn't exemplify greatness would be silly...
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    maj reacted to RichB in Brief Thoughts on Programs   
    Yep. The only acceptable school colors are chosen among: black, white, red, green, yellow, blue, orange and purple. And you call Lehigh boring?  I would call you a maroon, but you would think that is a comment on intellectual level. 
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    maj reacted to TBar1977 in Iows Style - and now Penn State Style?   
    They score more team points in both duals and tournaments. Dake lost 4 times in his career (Taylor and Ruth less, and Zain, Nolf and Bo potentially less). Dake won more NCAA titles than any of those others, but he did not have to beat a Logan Stieber or I Mar as a freshman either. Regardless, though, those guys scored more team points at NCAA's than he did, despite the fact he won all of his matches. 
     
    Knowing what the results were, David Taylor did more to help Penn State than even Dake could have done. The 4x is awesome from a purist point of view, but from a fan point of view those bonus points matter a lot more than many want to give credit for. Iowa fans on Hawk Report have been a lot of talking about getting a new asst. coach. You think they are talking about Dake? Nope. They are talking about David Taylor, though. 
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    maj reacted to bigmik in Iows Style - and now Penn State Style?   
    No, there is no guarantee that PSU's stars would have been just as successful elsewhere.
     
    Cael is the best coach in all of college wrestling today. It's time to give him his credit. No, the job that Koll, B. Smith, Flynn etc. are doing is not as good as what Cael is doing at PSU, nor is it as impressive.
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    maj got a reaction from TBar1977 in Iows Style - and now Penn State Style?   
    It's more of a philosophy than a style. Penn State guys seem to always want more points and it's fun to watch. If a PSU guy is up by 5 with 20 seconds left, he's going after the major, up by 12 he wants the tech and they are always looking for a fall. There is a huge element of getting every point you can for the team, but even when team the team competition is wrapped up or irrelevant , PSU will continue rack up the points. It's good for the sport. For too many years the " iowa " style degenerated into two meat heads ear to ear, both stalling, neither willing to risk doing anything, basically counting on a stand up for their entire offense as the fans were treated to one 2-1 or similar score after another. What's coming out of PSU is helping the entire sport as other coaches take note. Hard not to be a fan of Cael and PSU.
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    maj reacted to BigTenFanboy in Iows Style - and now Penn State Style?   
    I disagree with this though, I can make a long list of "TOP SHELF" blue chipper recruits that ended up not doing much at the collegiate level. Or at the very least not living up to their hype. I'm willing to bet with better coaching these guys wouldn't have burned out or performed at a higher level.
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