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    Fishbane got a reaction from whaletail in Stop sending Zain as our rep   
    There are issues with giving the open champ this consideration.  The 2018 and 2019 world team members are already qualified for the trials along with the 2019 Bill Ferrell champ so the top 3 guys at a weight could have little reason to wrestle at the open and that number could even be greater with guys going up and down from non Olympic weights.   
    If making this rule means that past world team members and the Bill Farrell champ will go to the open that will reduce the number of qualifiers at the OTT.  Is that desired?  Also this makes a weird event where only a few weights are contested in best of three format which might be difficult to promote.   If it is the two best guys at the weight then the open+pan am qualifier wrestle off would almost be the Olympic trials before the Olympic trials.  I’d be more in favor of moving up the timing of the Olympic trials to before the pan am qualifier than adding another layer of wrestle offs specifically for the qualifier, but as a matter of practicality I don’t think it makes much difference.
    What was the last time your proposal was done in men’s freestyle?  I recall in 2012 two wrestlers were exempted from the OTT so they could prepare for qualifying tournaments with those wrestlers gifted a spot in a mini bracket with the wrestler that won the tournament at the OTT.  The wrestler who was not exempted from the trials won that mini bracket and later medaled at the Olympics.
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    Fishbane reacted to SetonHallPirate in Utah Valley and Bob Burda   
    Scroll down...the first ten brackets are the normal ten, then the 11th one is the 9th-place bracket at 133.
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    Fishbane got a reaction from treep2000 in LSUs punter is 29 years old   
    Not really.  Matt is in direct competition with students from other schools in the business world and also professional businesses run by college graduates and business men and women so talented that they did not need to attend college and who get the to enjoy the benefits of their success. Business schools are in direct competition with each other to get the best students.  Many business schools are named after a successful alumnus who gave $$$ to the school earned by a successful business.  I am sure many business schools count on donations from their alumni to fund their businesses.  The business school may have been so impressed with Matt’s business acumen that they offered him a full academic scholarship to attend their institution and Matt may have picked this offer from several similar offers from other business schools.
    From the point of view of the two students it is much less different than your take which focuses on how schools interact and compete with each other.  Matt may be in school as much for business as Kyle is for wrestling.  
    I don’t understand the question “is the majority of the benefit of Matt unto himself? How is that relevant at all?  I agree the majority of the benefit derived from Matt’s effort goes to Matt. Why should it go anywhere else?  If the majority of the benefit of Kyle’s effort goes elsewhere then he is probably being exploited.
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    Fishbane got a reaction from treep2000 in LSUs punter is 29 years old   
    Many non athletes receive academic scholarships to attend college both at the D1 and D3 levels.   They can earn money from work in their field of specialization whilst attending school.   There might be some implicit earning restriction on students receiving need based scholarships but that seems less apples to apple should to me than a full academic scholarship vs a full athletic scholarship.  If Joe Burrow or even Kyle Snyder were able to make money on their likeness then they would almost certainly be able to fully fund their tuition with the proceeds.
    If the NCAA were interested in competitive balance they would restrict the salaries of coaches/administrators, spending on athletic facilities, and some kind of financial fair play where alumni and booster cannot donate unlimited $$$ to subsidize the athletic department.  They aren’t very interested in that and competitive balance is poor.
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    Fishbane got a reaction from cjc007 in Askren in the transfer portal   
    Not really, which is the point. Any list of guys you tried to come up with for guys as decorated or more than Askren from the past 20 years would be short.   List of guys who have won 2 or more Hodges - real short.  List of guys who only lost to 2 or fewer individuals in college - also real short.   List of guys who wrestled in 4 ncaa finals - real short too.  List of guys who won over 50% of their matches by fall - real short. 
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    Fishbane reacted to wrestlingnerd in Flo's Side of Lawsuit Against W. Saylor and Rofkin   
    In Martin’s defense (I’m not for or against him, just making a neutral comment), it is quite common to have the employer and the employee who allegedly conspired to violate a non-compete be represented by two different lawyers, often in a joint representation arrangement, because you want there to be complete alignment of interests between each party and its lawyer, even if they start the case on the exact same side. I’ve had to do this several times for employees and even paid for their separate attorney, but it was always a separate attorney. Martin may very well be the dick you make him out to be, but he may also be footing Willie’s legal bill. 
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    Fishbane got a reaction from wamba in Askren in the transfer portal   
    You are picking nits.  What are you trying to say he isn't top 10 of the past 20 years he's only top 15 or top 20, so that statement isn't true?  That's ridiculous.  He is one of 4 wrestlers to win multiple Hodge awards.  He is one of maybe 15 4-time finalists.  He was the OW of NCAAs when he thoroughly beat Jake Herbert  in the NCAA finals.  That was one of only 4 matches Herbert lost in college. Askren himself only lost 8 matches and had over 90 falls in his career which is the most by far in the past 35 years.  He has three more conference championships and a better winning pct. than Lee and Cenzo both individually and combined. 
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    Fishbane got a reaction from CoachWrestling in Flo's Side of Lawsuit Against W. Saylor and Rofkin   
    If you are concerned with the rights of corporations what about the right of Rokfin to hire the employees they want to or the right of rokfin to work with any independent contractor they wish?  Non-competes are anti free market.   In a free market goods and services should be exchanged freely and corporations should be able to hire whomever they want.   To allow one corporation to tell another they cannot hire or do business with a certain person is anti competition and not good for the free market.   
    Corporations don’t live up to obligations all the time and rarely do they get accused of lying.   A corporation doesn’t pay vendors, honor gift cards, or stops funding retirement plans when in a bankruptcy or restructuring and rarely do people throw around phrases like not living up to your word or lying.  Those decisions are “business.”   If a guy loses his job and is forced to meet his current obligations by finding work using his limited skill set he might decide the best course of action is to break a previously signed non-compete similar to how a corporation that has not meet their revenue/sales/growth goals might decide to declare bankruptcy and restructure previous agreements with vendors, consumers, employees, or retirees.   The failing corporation is rarely accused of the moral fouls of lying or not living up to its word because it’s just business.
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    Fishbane got a reaction from southend in Flo's Side of Lawsuit Against W. Saylor and Rofkin   
    I mean if we want a free market economy then the government should rule all non-competes unenforceable and that is an argument that doesn’t touch worker protection.  Non-competes by their very nature are anti free market and stifle competition.  The government has various laws to prevent companies/groups of companies from stiflingly competition and has taken action in the past on these laws.
    Clearly any company can ask you to sign anything and even if you sign said document that doesn’t mean the government should allow it to be enforced.
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    Fishbane got a reaction from LCpl Schmuckatelli in Flo's Side of Lawsuit Against W. Saylor and Rofkin   
    If you are concerned with the rights of corporations what about the right of Rokfin to hire the employees they want to or the right of rokfin to work with any independent contractor they wish?  Non-competes are anti free market.   In a free market goods and services should be exchanged freely and corporations should be able to hire whomever they want.   To allow one corporation to tell another they cannot hire or do business with a certain person is anti competition and not good for the free market.   
    Corporations don’t live up to obligations all the time and rarely do they get accused of lying.   A corporation doesn’t pay vendors, honor gift cards, or stops funding retirement plans when in a bankruptcy or restructuring and rarely do people throw around phrases like not living up to your word or lying.  Those decisions are “business.”   If a guy loses his job and is forced to meet his current obligations by finding work using his limited skill set he might decide the best course of action is to break a previously signed non-compete similar to how a corporation that has not meet their revenue/sales/growth goals might decide to declare bankruptcy and restructure previous agreements with vendors, consumers, employees, or retirees.   The failing corporation is rarely accused of the moral fouls of lying or not living up to its word because it’s just business.
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    Fishbane got a reaction from uncle bernard in Flo's Side of Lawsuit Against W. Saylor and Rofkin   
    If you are concerned with the rights of corporations what about the right of Rokfin to hire the employees they want to or the right of rokfin to work with any independent contractor they wish?  Non-competes are anti free market.   In a free market goods and services should be exchanged freely and corporations should be able to hire whomever they want.   To allow one corporation to tell another they cannot hire or do business with a certain person is anti competition and not good for the free market.   
    Corporations don’t live up to obligations all the time and rarely do they get accused of lying.   A corporation doesn’t pay vendors, honor gift cards, or stops funding retirement plans when in a bankruptcy or restructuring and rarely do people throw around phrases like not living up to your word or lying.  Those decisions are “business.”   If a guy loses his job and is forced to meet his current obligations by finding work using his limited skill set he might decide the best course of action is to break a previously signed non-compete similar to how a corporation that has not meet their revenue/sales/growth goals might decide to declare bankruptcy and restructure previous agreements with vendors, consumers, employees, or retirees.   The failing corporation is rarely accused of the moral fouls of lying or not living up to its word because it’s just business.
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    Fishbane got a reaction from pamela in Flo's Side of Lawsuit Against W. Saylor and Rofkin   
    If you are concerned with the rights of corporations what about the right of Rokfin to hire the employees they want to or the right of rokfin to work with any independent contractor they wish?  Non-competes are anti free market.   In a free market goods and services should be exchanged freely and corporations should be able to hire whomever they want.   To allow one corporation to tell another they cannot hire or do business with a certain person is anti competition and not good for the free market.   
    Corporations don’t live up to obligations all the time and rarely do they get accused of lying.   A corporation doesn’t pay vendors, honor gift cards, or stops funding retirement plans when in a bankruptcy or restructuring and rarely do people throw around phrases like not living up to your word or lying.  Those decisions are “business.”   If a guy loses his job and is forced to meet his current obligations by finding work using his limited skill set he might decide the best course of action is to break a previously signed non-compete similar to how a corporation that has not meet their revenue/sales/growth goals might decide to declare bankruptcy and restructure previous agreements with vendors, consumers, employees, or retirees.   The failing corporation is rarely accused of the moral fouls of lying or not living up to its word because it’s just business.
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    Fishbane got a reaction from pamela in Flo's Side of Lawsuit Against W. Saylor and Rofkin   
    I mean if we want a free market economy then the government should rule all non-competes unenforceable and that is an argument that doesn’t touch worker protection.  Non-competes by their very nature are anti free market and stifle competition.  The government has various laws to prevent companies/groups of companies from stiflingly competition and has taken action in the past on these laws.
    Clearly any company can ask you to sign anything and even if you sign said document that doesn’t mean the government should allow it to be enforced.
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    Fishbane got a reaction from goheels1812 in Flo's Side of Lawsuit Against W. Saylor and Rofkin   
    I don't know if I am less likely to subscribe to Flo, but with Willie posting wrestling content on Rokfin I am more likely to subscribe to rokfin than I was previously.
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    Fishbane got a reaction from jon in Flo's Side of Lawsuit Against W. Saylor and Rofkin   
    I don't know if I am less likely to subscribe to Flo, but with Willie posting wrestling content on Rokfin I am more likely to subscribe to rokfin than I was previously.
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    Fishbane got a reaction from tbert in Flo's Side of Lawsuit Against W. Saylor and Rofkin   
    If you are concerned with the rights of corporations what about the right of Rokfin to hire the employees they want to or the right of rokfin to work with any independent contractor they wish?  Non-competes are anti free market.   In a free market goods and services should be exchanged freely and corporations should be able to hire whomever they want.   To allow one corporation to tell another they cannot hire or do business with a certain person is anti competition and not good for the free market.   
    Corporations don’t live up to obligations all the time and rarely do they get accused of lying.   A corporation doesn’t pay vendors, honor gift cards, or stops funding retirement plans when in a bankruptcy or restructuring and rarely do people throw around phrases like not living up to your word or lying.  Those decisions are “business.”   If a guy loses his job and is forced to meet his current obligations by finding work using his limited skill set he might decide the best course of action is to break a previously signed non-compete similar to how a corporation that has not meet their revenue/sales/growth goals might decide to declare bankruptcy and restructure previous agreements with vendors, consumers, employees, or retirees.   The failing corporation is rarely accused of the moral fouls of lying or not living up to its word because it’s just business.
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    Fishbane got a reaction from wamba in Flo's Side of Lawsuit Against W. Saylor and Rofkin   
    If you are concerned with the rights of corporations what about the right of Rokfin to hire the employees they want to or the right of rokfin to work with any independent contractor they wish?  Non-competes are anti free market.   In a free market goods and services should be exchanged freely and corporations should be able to hire whomever they want.   To allow one corporation to tell another they cannot hire or do business with a certain person is anti competition and not good for the free market.   
    Corporations don’t live up to obligations all the time and rarely do they get accused of lying.   A corporation doesn’t pay vendors, honor gift cards, or stops funding retirement plans when in a bankruptcy or restructuring and rarely do people throw around phrases like not living up to your word or lying.  Those decisions are “business.”   If a guy loses his job and is forced to meet his current obligations by finding work using his limited skill set he might decide the best course of action is to break a previously signed non-compete similar to how a corporation that has not meet their revenue/sales/growth goals might decide to declare bankruptcy and restructure previous agreements with vendors, consumers, employees, or retirees.   The failing corporation is rarely accused of the moral fouls of lying or not living up to its word because it’s just business.
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    Fishbane got a reaction from wamba in Flo's Side of Lawsuit Against W. Saylor and Rofkin   
    I mean if we want a free market economy then the government should rule all non-competes unenforceable and that is an argument that doesn’t touch worker protection.  Non-competes by their very nature are anti free market and stifle competition.  The government has various laws to prevent companies/groups of companies from stiflingly competition and has taken action in the past on these laws.
    Clearly any company can ask you to sign anything and even if you sign said document that doesn’t mean the government should allow it to be enforced.
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    Fishbane got a reaction from jon in Flo's Side of Lawsuit Against W. Saylor and Rofkin   
    If you are concerned with the rights of corporations what about the right of Rokfin to hire the employees they want to or the right of rokfin to work with any independent contractor they wish?  Non-competes are anti free market.   In a free market goods and services should be exchanged freely and corporations should be able to hire whomever they want.   To allow one corporation to tell another they cannot hire or do business with a certain person is anti competition and not good for the free market.   
    Corporations don’t live up to obligations all the time and rarely do they get accused of lying.   A corporation doesn’t pay vendors, honor gift cards, or stops funding retirement plans when in a bankruptcy or restructuring and rarely do people throw around phrases like not living up to your word or lying.  Those decisions are “business.”   If a guy loses his job and is forced to meet his current obligations by finding work using his limited skill set he might decide the best course of action is to break a previously signed non-compete similar to how a corporation that has not meet their revenue/sales/growth goals might decide to declare bankruptcy and restructure previous agreements with vendors, consumers, employees, or retirees.   The failing corporation is rarely accused of the moral fouls of lying or not living up to its word because it’s just business.
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    Fishbane got a reaction from KTG119 in Memorable "Debuts/Statement Victories"   
    And wasn’t it also at the scuffle where Ed Ruth got his statement win as a freshman against Mack Lewness and Henrich?  I think they were ranked 1st and 2nd being the top two returning place winners and undefeated thus far that season. 
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    Fishbane got a reaction from spladle08 in Memorable "Debuts/Statement Victories"   
    And wasn’t it also at the scuffle where Ed Ruth got his statement win as a freshman against Mack Lewness and Henrich?  I think they were ranked 1st and 2nd being the top two returning place winners and undefeated thus far that season. 
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    Fishbane got a reaction from headache in Cox to Ohio RTC   
    But they more likely know that Cox twice defeated the 86kg champ from last year who is also the only man to beat the 86kg champ from this year dating back to when that guy first  won worlds in 2017.  I don't know why we are talking like this.
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    Fishbane got a reaction from JHRoseWrestling in Cox to Ohio RTC   
    But they more likely know that Cox twice defeated the 86kg champ from last year who is also the only man to beat the 86kg champ from this year dating back to when that guy first  won worlds in 2017.  I don't know why we are talking like this.
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    Fishbane got a reaction from jon in Cox to Ohio RTC   
    But they more likely know that Cox twice defeated the 86kg champ from last year who is also the only man to beat the 86kg champ from this year dating back to when that guy first  won worlds in 2017.  I don't know why we are talking like this.
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    Fishbane got a reaction from drag it in Best schools for each weight (light, middle, heavy)   
    Lightweight champs past 10 years
    Iowa 7 (McD 2, Lee 2, Ramos, Clark, Metcalf) Penn State 5 (Molinaro, Megaludis, Retherford 3) Cornell 5 (Dake 2, Garrett, Yianni 2) Ohio State 5 (Stieber 4, Tomasello) Oklahoma State 4 (Oliver 2, Heil 2) Rutgers 2 (Suriano, Ashnault) Oklahoma 2 (Maple, Brewer) Illinois 2 (Delgado 2) Michigan 2 (Russell) Lehigh 1 (Cruz) ASU 1 (Robles) Minnesota 1 (Ness) SDSU 1 (Gross) Missouri 1 (Houdashelt)  Northwestern 1 (Tsirtsis) Middleweight champs past 10 years
    Penn State 14 (Molinaro, Retherford 3, Nolf 3, Taylor 2, Joseph 2, Ruth, Brown, Hall) Oklahoma State 6 (Oliver, Dieringer 3, Chris Perry 2) Iowa 3 (Metcalf, Borschal , St. John) ASU 3 (Valencia 2, Jenkins) Cornell 3 (Dake 3) Illinois 2 (Imar 2) Missouri 1 (Houdashelt) Rutgers 1 (Ashnault) Northwestern 1 (Tsirtsis) Harvard 1 (O'Conner) Wisconsin 1 (Howe) Nebraska 1 (Burroughs) Virginia Tech 1 (Lewis) ISU 1 (Reader) Ohio State 1 (Martin) Heavyweight champs past 10 years
    Penn State 8 (Wright 2, Ruth 2, Nickal 3, Cassar) Missouri 4 (Askren, Cox 3) Cornell 4 (Bosak, Dean 2, Simaz) ISU 3 (Varner, Zabriski, Gadson) NC State 3 (Macchiavello, Gwiz 2) Ohio State 3 (Snyder 3) Ohio State 3 (Snyder 3) UNI 1 (Foster) Kent State 1 (Kilgore) Lehigh 1 (Rey) Minnesota 2 (Nelson 2)
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