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  1. I see a lot of people pointing to riding time as a problem with folk on the college level. Something I posted on another thread was a rule change that would only allow a wrestler to accumulate riding time if they had already secured a two point score of some kind (takedown, reversal, near fall). It would incentivize scoring in the opening period and take away the incentive to simply build riding time in a 0-0 or 1-0 match. You could also add a wrinkle that a stalling call on top would stop your riding time clock until another 2 point score is earned if you like. That would be a deterrent to hanging out below the waist and taking the "free" stall call when the top wrestler gets in trouble. Downside is you better have a competent riding time clock operator.  

  2. Mat side weigh-ins might help, but it won't stop weight cutting. The goal is to be big for the weight. What is to stop someone from cutting to below the weight class and refueling and rehydrating several hours before competition. Let's say I want to wrestle 138. My walk around mat side weight is 150. I cut 15-16 pounds instead of 12 so I can refuel/rehydrate 2-3 hours before competition. I am still big for the weight, I just have to adjust my cut to make it a few hours early and 3-4 pounds under. It  would take some discipline to convince yourself to mentally see the 138 weight class as 134-135 though. Sorry, I'm a high school coach, so I used a high school weight and scenario as my example. 

  3. On 4/5/2022 at 3:45 PM, TheHeel said:

    Rolling stones tend to roll. 

    Point taken, but with the new facility just built, rolling on might be a little more difficult with the investment made. I'm not close to the situation beyond being a Missouri resident, which only puts me physically close. Just musing from afar. I know he's got some tough kids though. 

  4. 4 hours ago, TheHeel said:

    I bet you his daddy wants to be on staff somewhere. Look for him to land somewhere with a vacancy at lightweight coach or with a good RTC position available. 

    Sam is running a successful wrestling school in Mid-Missouri and just built a new facility there. I doubt he's looking for a coaching gig outside of the one he already has. 

  5. On 3/23/2022 at 5:36 PM, hammerlockthree said:

    The ref did mess that up. its called a legal head pry, PSU does it all the time.


    Close call. Might or might not be below the midpoint of the upper arm. Certainly not creating a dangerous situation with this headlock though. The shoulder seems to be encircled although loosely. Probably should have let it slide. Seems like it's right at the midpoint of the upper arm to me. 

  6. 8 hours ago, 4awrestler said:


    8 hours ago, 4awrestler said:


    I have a few gripes particularly around the scoring and now has me convinced college wrestling should be freestyle and be done with it.


    These rules are kinda getting ridiculous and I’ll just point out a few


    Stalling for 4 seconds but as long as you change positions before the 5th swipe you’re not stalling…it’s clear to me that it should be called stalling.


    With that, the push out rule would solve a lot of the stalling on the edge which never seems to be called consistently or enough.


    The danger exposure calls…maybe I’m just so sick of watching this dive under grab the ankles technique or maybe it’s that I just miss a good double leg with a windmill finish to a half…. These danger calls seem inconsistent (Bonacorssi in OT non call and Deans call for). If we went to freestyle so much of this “funk” technique would go away and some of these guys wouldn’t be ruining their knees at an alarming rate.


    Riding time sucks and shouldn’t be awarded unless near fall points are scored… there I said it.


    These are just a few of the random thoughts/ points I want to discuss. I love D1 wrestling but I miss what it used to before “funk” scrambling



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    The problem with going freestyle is it would be very difficult to implement in high school, which would naturally need to follow if your going to do it in college. 

    1. Training quality officials would be difficult. 

    2. Keeping kids safe without some major rule changes to freestyle would be next to impossible. Imagine a giant mismatch where one kid is trying to launch the other kid, who isn't experienced enough to know how to protect himself, on his head the whole match. 

    The other option would be to continue to wrestle folkstyle in high school with the understanding that if you plan to wrestle in college, you better emphasize your freestyle training because this is what you will be wrestling at the college level (basically the women's approach). I actually wouldn't mind this approach at all. I enjoy freestyle much more now with the current rules than I used to. The subjectivity of the activity period can be a little maddening. Sometimes it feels like the ref is just setting up the match the way they feel it should go, but it's not any worse than watching a guy in top position take someone out of bounds in rear standing several times to get restarts and build riding time. I just think freestyle doesn't work in high school because you lose some of the rules designed to protect the wrestlers. The switch wouldn't hurt the lifelong wrestlers so much, but could discourage and endanger those kids that start wrestling in high school. 


  7. Place is short for placement, no? So what is said wrestler's placement in relation to the other wrestlers? Round of 12, then would mean you are placed among the top 12, thus exceeding your seed if it is above 12. Maybe the statement should have read "Wrestlers that will outplace their seed and AA" if that is what is intended. Maybe the original poster will let us know. So many things to consider on NCAA Eve.

  8. 5 hours ago, Wrestleknownothing said:

    In the D'Emilio thread I started @Riz23 mentioned that among the current crop of OSU wrestlers, he had never seen D'Emilio or Sasso gas.

    That got me thinking about who would be on your All-Time Gas Tank team. I am going to narrow the qualification down a bit though. It is not enough for the wrestler to not have gassed himself (or herself), but they also have to have broken the gas tank of one of their opponents, too.

    I don't have someone for every weight, and I have only followed wrestling recently, so I do not have a good historical perspective, but I will start things off with a few suggestions:

    • Yianni Diakomihalis - Never seen him gas, and watching him break Musukaev at the 2019 Yasar Dogu is the video I play whenever I am feeling down and need to be reminded that there is beauty in this world. (I get it, this is the college board and that is an international event, so sue me). That was the purest example of a wrestler wilting and quitting I have ever seen. It will be shown in university classrooms for generations to illustrate the concept.
    • Nick Lee - All forward pressure, all the time. Last year in the NCAA semis against Rivera and this year against Eierman are examples of very high level guys who gave in to the pace.
    • Austin DeSanto - Another all forward pressure, all the time guy. I don't have a specific example of him breaking someone, but I have to believe they exist. Help a brother out.
    • Gas Tank Gary - It's right there in the name. Now, I have no idea if that is just a great nickname, what with the alliteration and all, or if it is bona fide, but he makes my list because of the alliteration thing.

    Who else does the collection wisdom of the board have for the list?


    I thought Yianni was on the ropes against Lovett in Vegas. He won but appeared to be sucking wind in the 3rd.

  9. Don't all American heavyweight comparisons have to start with Baumgartner. Obviously Big Bruce's success started at a more advanced age, but Bruce vs Gable, both in their prime, would have been interesting. 

    I too am amazed at how easy Gable made it look against the current U23 World Champ. 

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