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  1. For several years "We need to find a way to develop our wrestlers into championship Sr level freestyle wrestlers" and "We need to find opportunities for wrestlers beyond college"

     

    The RTC's are created. The USA ascends to the very top of the Sr. level wrestling world! 

     

     

    Now today "Look at those guys paying post grad wrestlers at their RTC's. Oh, the horrors!!!" 

     

     

    LOL at what Hawkeye Report Hysteria can create. Btw, I have the impression from listening to FRL from the beginning that "I heard" is often synonymous with "It was on Hawkeye Report's Message board"

    Duck & cover, eh Tbar?

     

    This wasn't created by a Hawkeye Report conspiracy. They don't care that much. They might even agree with you. This was created by the money thrown at athletes to circumvent the limitations of NCAA rules. That YOUR team gets mentioned is mostly because they're the top dog, but several teams will probably get caught up in this if the NCAA cares to take notice.


  2. This is ridiculous! The NCAA should be ashamed of that interview!

    LOL. Yeah, I thought it was funny, too. Most of these guys take themselves sooo seriously. It was fun to see Sammy lighten up a bit. Only the self-righteous and the defensive homers will have a problem with it, and I see that they've come out again, on cue. Figures.


  3. They are all kids / young men.  But compare just about anyone from Iowa (coaches, wrestlers, entourage) to Tyler Wilps, the wrestlers from tOSU / PSU / OSU etc. and you can see these guys are not being given the proper leadership.  I think that nonsense was ignored when Iowa was doling out interstellar domination, but those days are over. It's time to behave like gentlemen and respect your opponents.   Imagine if Iowa had a guy as dominating as Logan, Ringer, Gwiz, etc.?  They'd likely be speaking in 3rd person and mocking their opponents. 

     

      The cave men days are over.  Let's instill more in these guys than deer killing analogies and an us against them mindset. 

    Please spare us the sermon on proper leadership, when you can't demonstrate the respect you find lacking in anyone from Iowa. Gilman is just another guy who won and then lost. Gilman said said that Moisy must be tough, because he's in the semis. Good enough. The better wrestler won, and congrats to Zeke.

     

    All this thread does is reveal the hatred and prejudice of some of you. I feel sorry for you.


  4. JB, I saw Foxcatcher a couple of nights ago. Although I liked it, I really wouldn't call it a wrestling movie. I thought that Mark Ruffalo was awesome as Dave Schultz. Vanessa Regrave was great as DuPont's mother ("Wrestling is a low sport...")

     

    Yes, Steve Carell was good as John DuPont, but he was so strange and detached that it was a role that almost had no shape. In retrospect, it's amazing what poor mental health gets tolerated when a person has influence.

     

    It's also amazing how badly money can distort a sport. I think its great when some generous folks give big money to wrestling, but I can also see how easy it is for the sport to get distorted by a screwjob like DuPont.


  5. First, the NCAA tournament needs to be moved up a week so it doesnt go head to head with NCAA basketball for viewers. This seems so obvious and no one ever says anything about it or tries to do anything about it. You're not growing the sport when the casual and die hard sports fans are always going to tune in to the basketball.

     

    Second, there needs to be some kind of campaign to get the Vegas linemakers to start offering more betting option for the sport. If the bettors can bet it, they will watch and follow and that is a huge industry. NCAA Basketball and Football gets a lot of viewers and interest in the sport just from this.

     

    Totally disagree about gambling. This is misguided, and will lead to the corruption seen in all other major sports. Bad idea. Win or lose, major gambling is for low-life.


  6. A lot of Hawk fans saying black and gold on the twitter but I can't see it. What on earth are a couple of California kids, used to the beach, the sun shine, beautiful women, and a world class education going to do in Iowa? Cornel wont surprise me nor will ASU. I'm thinking Zeke's going to build something out west.

     

    ASU

    Sunshine? Check

    Beautiful women? Check

    Beach? Well they've got sand.

    World-class education? Oops.


  7. Don't go crazy. He is an entertainer, before an innovator. Not saying he isn't a bright individual.

     

    In what way? He's a well-regarded astrophysicist, well-regarded author on the subject, and in the early to mid-1990s Tyson was committed to research which helped improve the understanding of the expanding universe.

     

    I don't think 99% of the people who know who he is today had heard of him before the last five to eight years when he began hosting Nova ScienceNow. The media picked up on him because of his background and success in his field.

    Pinnum has the better understanding here. NDGT is a well regarded science communicator. He has an an appointment to the hayden planetarium, not a faculty research position, and his impact is pretty much only in his awesome ability to communicate astrophysics to the general public. He is not one of the "great minds of our generation" as some in this thread like to put it, but he is extremely valuable and important to the scientific community in his ability to foster broad interest in research and discovery. This value can't be understated, as there are many scientists focused on their own groundbreaking work, but few characters as likeable as Tyson.

    No, Pinnum and BH underestimate Tyson's influence. Yes, he primarily promotes astronomy and science these days, but he has held important positions in astronomy over the years, influencing the debate over issues in ways that support data over tradition (e.g. Pluto). No, he hasn't won a Kavli or Nobel prize, but he has been WAY more than just an entertainer. I know because I've worked in astronomy publishing for almost 19 years.

     

    I would compare him more to Bernstein than Stravinsky; he is a extremely bright person who CHOOSES to share his knowledge with the rest of us in ways we can understand. I am proud to have a former NCAA wrestler in his position, and you should be too.


  8. This is old news. You guys need to get out more. There is more to life than ESPN.

     

    Yes, Neil DeGrasse Tyson IS a fabulous spokesman for astronomy and physics, and also a great guy. He wrestled for Harvard, and was a Latin ballroom dancing champ as well. Not every wrestler lives in Happy Valley, Iowa City, or Stillwater, or wants to. Welcome to 2014.


  9. Nike shares significant blame in that they purchased the lease/option on the school and installed the athletic administrator with no concern for his ability to run an athletic dept. only his ability to ramrod the arena project. The adding baseball thing was an add on that would have interested Kilkenny as a box owner of the SD Padres (who coincidentally now have their A Emeralds minor league team playing in UO's new BB stadium).

     

    NIKE didnt "install" anyone. The guy was hired by a board of directors, and admin knew exactly what they were doing. Had Kearney built a team that had a fan base and was winning, wrestling would not have been cut, someone else would have. Just because MSU keeps a stinker on board doesnt mean its ok. Just ask Boston U. Keep a complacent coach on staff that cant produce, and when the axe is coming, they are gonna take the longest neck.

     

    In addition, Kearney and Stewart were offered additional jobs if the wrestling team was cut. Wonder why they went silent all of a sudden? There you go.

    You make this about the coaches' performance. It's not about the coaches. It's about the wrestling. If the coaches were substandard or complacent, then replace the coaches, if you want to keep the sport. These schools wanted to drop the sport.

    By your understanding, only handful of schools will keep wrestling, because only a handful compete for titles or have a significant fan base. Does Kansas City drop football because the Chiefs stink for a few years? This is a ridiculous, short-sighted, and very damaging attitude.


  10. Sheesh! Old dirty, wire, etc, of course Nike didn't drop wrestling at whoregon. They don't start or drop any college program. But support, donations, back door activities (booting an AD to install a completely unqualified (AD with no degree) friend of PK to do nothing but get the Matt Knight Arena built quickly) set the framework, or lack of it, when decisions were being made. Does anyone believe that a decision to drop wouldn't have been "reconsidered" if Phil had mentioned merely in passing that dropping a long standing Olympic sport that provided Nike it's first gold medal won in their shoes would reflect poorly? Remember, the Arena blueprints had mat room included for a long time...until they changed to a coaches hydrotherapy facility and other excessive bling. Simple expression of modest support, with no new money added (in court they admitted it was never a money issue), was all that would have been necessary.

     

    The argument against the coach is bogus (and I'm not a Kearny supporter in any way). He was no better or worse than when they (surprisingly) hired him eleven years earlier...over T Brands, Z Jones (I think?), and others. The athletic Dept deserves blame, if there is any to assign, for not making personnel changes if that was an issue...not the athletic program he happened to be the head of.

    +1

    This is the response to Old Dirty. This has nothing to do with government handouts, but rather with a corrupt athletic department, backed by the deep pockets of an all-powerful sports conglomerate. Making this a problem with a particular coach's personal responsibility misses the point entirely. If needed, fire the coach but keep the program.


  11. Nike didnt pick up the tab for Oregon wrestling. Neither did USAW, NCAA, ORWAY, Sunkist, or anyone else for that matter. Because a shoe company didnt come save a team with a destructive head coach angers wrestling fans is beyond me, and I live here.

    Laying this on the coach isn't fair either. I thought it was the sleazy AD who was destructive.

    Nike is not just a shoe company. They are a major (maybe THE major) sports equipment conglomerate in the world with enormous power. And they didn't just not pick up the tab (which was relatively small), but they dumped enormous money into other Oregon sports while wrestling was dropped.

    Fact is, Nike didn't give a rat's a** about wrestling at Oregon. Maybe they've changed, but they need to step up to the plate and show some major and visible love towards wrestling elsewhere. As for Oregon, screw the Ducks.


  12. @Ia_hawk I do know the difference but since I can't make my secretary proof read my post I look like an idiot :)

    We Iowans used to be a literate lot. My 3rd grade teaching in C.R. is rolling in her grave.

    Maybe your secretary should proof these posts.

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