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  1. I want to give him the benefit and I certainly wanted him to wrestle Snyder for the Olympic spot. I thought Cox would win. But if what we heard is correct we are talking about a completely unexcused violation of a basic eligibility requirement, that every competitor make weight by a specified time. Cox did not. I do not see any mechanism to simply ignore the fact that he did not make weight on time through no fault but his own. All I can say is that if the rule book actually includes some catchall authority to modify qualification rules and procedures in the interests of justice or in the best interests of the Olympic team, etc., that at least would be something, but I am not sure I would rule in favor of Cox in any event. Again, the guy, a very experienced athlete, inexplicably blew the weigh-in at the Olympic trials. Nor do I think the miscommunication story, which I do not view as credible, is a legitimate excuse. But we will see.
  2. Trying to compare apples with oranges. The law of agency is very specific about what could constitute apparent authority. It cannot be shown here. Not even close. And even it could be shown, it is highly doubtful that any arbitrator would find reliance on anything he allegedly told Cox reasonable. Cox is a very experienced wrestler, has weighed in a 1000 times, knew the rules or was supposed to, should have least have known there was conflicting info, and should have checked, which he had numerous chances to do but did not bother. And in your analogy btw the police officer may have acted reasonably in assuming that the woman had authority to authorize a search if she held herself out as the owner, even if the search would likely be found improper and no evidence from it allowed. But for Cox to have a chance what mattered was not what Jackson claimed to have authority to do, but what his actual authority and duties were. If this is Cox's best argument, good luck to him.
  3. For the argument to have any hope, Cox would have to show that a reasonable person would believe by virtue of Jackson's position and job title that he had the authority to override the clearly stated and publicized weigh-in deadline that all the tournament participants were informed about, that his authority to do so was reasonably apparent. It's called apparent authority. It is not enough for him to be employed in some capacity by US Wrestling. In this case Cox knew or clearly should have known when the posted weigh-in deadline was going to occur. So he would have to show that it was reasonable for him to believe that Jackson had the authority to override that deadline, not just that he assumed Jackson's belief regarding the weigh-in time was accurate. So if Jackson had been the tournament director or the head of the Trial's rules committee and he told Cox the wrong weigh-in deadline, the argument might fly. Even then it would get muddled by Jackson also being Cox's coach. But Jackson was not nearly in such a position and even then it is not reasonable to have taken such a claim at face value when it contradicted the posted and publicized deadline without double checking. Cox apparently did not even ask. So no, it is a legal dead-end. All that said, maybe they will make a decision based on the best interests of the Olympic team or there is some sort of catchall discretion and they just decide the hell with it, have a wrestle off with Snyder. Just a bizarre situation if what we heard was true. But then again they may decide that Cox cannot be relied on in the Olympics. Who knows?
  4. Yep. Even assuming that this whole miscommunication story happened, and even pretending that the athlete is not ultimately responsible to know the event eligibility rules and something as basic as the weigh-in deadline which cannot just be delegated away, nothing in Jackson's job description and duties would lead anyone to reasonably believe that he had any authority regarding the weigh-in deadline or in contradicting a clearly posted procedure. The fact that he was Cox's coach makes this even moreso. And even if Jackson was along the lines of the Trials organizer, that would still not be a reasonable basis to believe that Jackson's alleged word overrode a clearly posted deadline. There was also no excuse for Cox not to know the rules and to double check even if he received bad info from his coach.
  5. Would have let DT or Dake wrestle? Based on what? And the thing is this has never been an issue. We are not talking about someone involved in a car accident on the way to the arena or someone getting trapped in an elevator, but a highly experienced international wrestler, a former Olympian, who alone out of 196 competitors mysteriously could not figure out the weigh-in time. To be honest I cannot think of an single instance where a wrestler at a major national or intentional tournament just flat out screwed up the weigh in deadline. I guess in hindsight I can see how it happens if the athlete just delegates everything to a coach or assistant, is focused solely on wrestling and ignores all else even though he arrives at the arena over half an hour before the deadline. But I'm still amazed something like this could have happened, especially to a guy who has been there before, and that anyone could be that oblivious. It was not like anyone was hiding the weigh-in deadline or that this is a novel or hard to meet rule. I still am inclined to believe this was a weight management issue, but so be it. There is a video of the Spartan team leaving for the arena. They are in the lobby of the hotel at 5:30 am. The entire coaching staff including Koll is there. They take three vehicles to the arena. Everyone of those guys knows the weigh-in time and they are not screwing up anything. Not that knowing the clearly posted weigh-in deadline is all that impressive, but that is how you approach the logistics of the Olympic trials.
  6. I agree. The argument about a minimal violation of the weigh-in time rules being harmless is besides the point. A standard and clear cut rule of eligibility was violated without any mitigating circumstances. Still could you imagine how you would feel as a coach or competitor being clearly told a weigh-in deadline, an express and standard rule of eligibility, carefully monitoring your weight, complying with that rule and making weight on time, and then being told that a competitor gets to arbitrarily ignore it because its violation was deemed irrelevant? Every single other competitor at the Trials made weight at the time clearly designated for them to do so, but Cox, a highly experienced competitor, gets the golden ticket exception? I sympathize with the guy, but my goodness.
  7. Cox is done. It's over. This is a major rule violation and every single time it has happened at the Olympics the athlete is out of luck. It happened to a US Boxer in 1988 and he was out. If the Olympics treats it like an inexcusable violation, then national sports federations have to also. And they should. You don't get to compete by violating an explicit eligibility rule. 195 other athletes easily figured it out. As to effect on competition, I would say an athlete getting to make weight later is an unfair advantage and goes to the integrity of the competition. And if 10 minutes late is OK, why not an hour? Or two? And if making weight on time is excusable, why not coming in slightly over weight? Does one pound really make a difference. Or 2? Or 5? One hell of a slippery slope. Athletes are given a deadline to make weight and it is completely reasonable that they comply with it to be eligible to compete. The alternative is ridiculous.
  8. It is a rule that goes to the basic fairness of the competition, that you make weight by a designated time. Every other competitor did it. And at the Olympics it is zero tolerance; miss the weigh in deadline and you are out of luck.
  9. If true then this was a weight mismanagement issue. Which is what I always suspected. Otherwise no one could explain how Cox alone out of 196 competitors screwed up the weigh in time.
  10. Apparently the last time they wrestled, which was at 86kg at the 2016 Trials Dake was dealing with multiple tears in his left arm (rotator cuff, labrum and bicep) and had to have surgery afterward. So it seems that Dake beat Taylor at a higher weight for which he is undersized despite a pretty bad left arm injury. Given how close he came to qualifying at 86kg in 2016, that is kind of nuts.
  11. So has anyone come up with a credible explanation how Cox was confused about the weigh-in deadline yet every single other athlete at the Trials including athletes coached by Jackson did not have the slightest problem?
  12. First square best 2 out of three. The only other one was the US Open match.
  13. Don't have to. Watching people twist themselves into a pretzel to try to defend the old qualifying system was always interesting.
  14. He "beat" Dake despite Dake getting two push outs to one and Dake being put on the clock three times while JB had his hand in Dake's face all match. And regardless it was an extremely close match with Dake outwrestling JB. More to the point, nothing could justify a same day challenge tournament before the finals best of three no matter what occurred at the US Open. The system "worked" only in the sense that it protected the incumbent from a bona fide challenge and made very clear exactly who the powers that be wanted to win. The very first time it is a square match, JB lost in two straight. And does JB win in 2017 without the same day challenge tournament? Not based on what I saw. Anyway, Dake is going to the Olympics.
  15. So happy for Dake. I have always said that JB was a great wrestler/champion, but the qualifying system we had was a joke. Since 2013 they have been thisclose but going through the challenge tournament and then immediately wrestling the finals was insane. And it signaled very clear favoritism that was reflected in the calls. All any Dake fan was asking for was a fair shot. Even so, beating JB was no gimme. When you lose to a guy that often, even with a stacked deck, it gets in your head. And JB was pulling out the stops. But it is amazing what a wrestler can do without dead legs from a same day challenge tournament. Anyway Dake is Olympics bound and JB has already been to the mountain top.
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