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Everything posted by MrWonderful

  1. a) This is a great analogy. b) I still haven't received a response c) I love their content, have defended them on here before, but am getting extremely disappointed in their very poor response. Troubling business practice, speaks to a bigger issue....
  2. You might want to just email and check with them to see what they say. I agree, if you paid for Feb. you should get your money back....but I'm just a customer like you. I don't speak for Flo, or have any special information besides the tweet from Martin I posted. If anyone emailed / contacted them during the match might want to try again. I think a few people on twitter posted that they were being told no refunds at first but it was after the match that Martin posted saying they would be refunding...so word may not have passed down the line that quickly. I'm gonna give them the benefit of the doubt as long as they do the right thing here afterwords. Refunds are a solid start. I think an explanation and corrective actions would help to earn back some confidence.
  3. I am assuming the refund applies to the pay-per-view subscribers and the 2 month 'free' applies to monthly/annual subscribers. I would sure hope so, the reason I am an annual subscriber is to have access to events like this...and I sure didn't get it. Email:support@flosports.tv
  4. I am a supporter of Flo and just defended them on here the other day. My opinion of the positive they have done for the sport hasn't changed but it is obvious they need to tighten up their service. I would highly encourage everyone to take advantage of the offer for a refund or 2-months of free service. The financial pain will make them more likely to respond appropriately to the situation and, hopefully, take steps to prevent this from happening again in the future. I hope they learn a lesson and use it to become better/stronger. Martin Floreani ‏@martinoflo 1h 1 hour agoMore @Mkosz1 besides getting better...we are offering up full refunds or two months free at support@flosports.tv
  5. You might want to learn the definition of liberal (instead of just assuming a negative context based on your personal political views).....but, regardless, I think it would be hard to argue that any media outlets have done MORE for wrestling than Flo. I am a huge fan and support and applaud their efforts. Companies need to make money and they have earned (quite literally) the rights to produce this event how they see best. That's what business do, use the leverage to make money and expand their products/markets. Monetizing wrestling events is GOOD for our sport, not bad. What do you suggest? That it be forced to be free to all...and therefore no media outlets can afford to broadcast (ie. limiting / regulating business....)? Not like this was going to be prime time ESPN showing. liberal: favorable to or respectful of individual rights and freedoms
  6. Sure it wasn't "sticky foot"? Was your club coach Mr. Brinzer?
  7. Awesome! Great interview Jason. Excited to see where this goes.
  8. I think BAC hit the nail on the head here. I'm also wondering if there is additional support beyond the numbers, perhaps a source, that they aren't revealing? I think it's an important topic and hope that Flo can tighten this up significantly if the evidence backs it up. At the moment the statistics look amateurish and they are using them to make some pretty firm statements and serious accusations, a little scary if they aren't true, possibly even slander. I think Flo should make their whole dataset public, it's part of the story, and would add some transparency and allow others to sift through the data. Also, are the referee's actually supposed to be randomly assigned? Is that part of the procedure? If not, their statistics are pretty much meaningless...... **At the same time, glad Flo is putting the time and resources into this stuff. I think they're doing a good thing, I think their service and news is really good for the sport. This kind of investigative reporting is a big step and I just want to see it done right and not back fire on them. Hopefully they haven't already taken it too far.
  9. On the replay you can see the points were thrown up by the ref before the match was over. Silly on all accounts. Embarrassing.
  10. It definitely seemed like J'den did not realize he was losing the match until the final 10 seconds. I couldn't tell what the corner was yelling but they should have done more to get him on his offense at the end of the match. Did the coaches not realize he was losing? I would find it hard to believe that nether the athlete or coaches know the rules...right?....
  11. Still sticking to this comment? Not saying he can't with some (a lot) of improvement, but he hasn't done anything close to justifying this statement. You are talking about two multi-multi-time world champs and a guy that can give the both grief vs. a 1st time silver medalist at a lower weight class....
  12. I haven't been following the boards of late and generally don't get too actively involved in discussion, so forgive me if this has been brought up (perhaps multiple times) already.....is there any serious discussion to start migrating the rules towards the international style? Where would that start, with the NWCA? If not, there really should be. There is a lot of talk and t-shirts about 'save olympic wrestling', but I believe we need to show our full support with committed actions. We want to be the best in the world and participate on an Olympic level, then we should promote that style from youth on up. I know people will get on here and argue about how folkstyle is better, etc. But that is really besides the point. Other people will point out how terrible FILA is, etc. but how can we expect to have real influence if our entire community doesn't support the international style. Curious about the subject and others thoughts.
  13. Sports Illustrated - Dan Hodge Cover (April 1957)
  14. That sounds like an opinion, which you are entitled too. Do you recognize that the entire NWCA committee and a majority of D-1 coaches have a different opinion and have agreed to move forward with the proposal? I think you should move forward with your new coaches organization. Good luck with it.
  15. So you are suggesting the organization that represents wrestling coaches shouldn't be taken seriously by the NCAA? If, as you said, the coaches owe it to themselves to do what is right for their team...participating in this organization would be a good step in that direction.
  16. I'd take it you can agree at this point that would have been a pretty ignorant stance to take...they have proven themselves to be quite relevant (just like they are supposed to be, it's their duty to represent the coaches and apparently they are considering the majority vote in favor of their proposal).
  17. How? I can understand the appeal of a dual meet tourney for rabid wrestling fans, and especially those of particular schools that might have stronger dual meet teams than tournament strength, but who are these "casual spectators" that are now going to be more excited with a dual meet tournament? A casual spectator sits on his couch flipping channels. He doesn't pay to travel to college wrestling dual meets. A dual meet tournament is not a bad idea at all. The potential serious downside to the proposal, and the one that needs to be considered thoughtfully over a period of time and not rushed, is this: Will the elimination of the team race from the NCAA tournament damage the tournament? The answer to this question has to be unequivocally, 100 percent NO, otherwise the proposal of a dual meet tournament determining the team champs must be dropped. And I don't know the answer to this question. My initial reaction was no it would not damage the tournament, but after talking to many folks who disagree, I'm starting to think the answer is yes. Most people can only afford to go to one major wrestling event per year, and the drama of the team race, all wrapped up in a few days, is one of the highlights of the whole NCAA tournament, in addition to the great individual wrestling of course. So if we're going to abandon the team race for a Dual meet tournament, we better be darn sure we're not taking anything away from the NCAA tournament, because we'd be shooting ourselves in the foot and potentially losing more fans than we gain. I would consider causal spectators to be students, alumni and other general fans of the school. As an example, I don't follow basketball or 'know' the sport very well. But when the Pitt basketball team qualifies for the NCAA tournament I start to pay attention and will root for them even though I have no connection to the school, beside living in Pittsburgh. I even turn on the TV to watch them play if I see/hear the schedule. I could care less about the individuals on the team and know even less about the individual match-ups and nuances of the game but its easy for me to look at the scoreboard and understand what is going on. I've even gone to a few games with friends out of curiosity because of the excitement the team generates when they are doing well. I guess I could say the same for Football, Hockey, Baseball, etc. There is something to be said for the excitement & fan friendliness of 'team' sports. Emphasizing that aspect of our sport could help with the 'casual fan'. In addition, individual wrestling matches are hard to follow. Even to people that have been to dozens++ matches but never wrestled themselves. I remember my mother and grandfather asking me questions time & again about what was going on in wrestling matches even though they are intelligent people that had gone to countless events. Then try explaining how the team score was calculated at a tournament without tripping over your own words, counting on your fingers, making a funny face, changing the reasoning twice, then ending with "I don't know, that's just what the announcer said". A really good example of this is that last year the OAC conference (D3) named the wrong team champion after the tournament....only a few days later was an announcement made of the error. Explain that to the casual fan.
  18. How is that going to change? The individual tournament will still be in place. NWCA is the National Wrestling Coaches Association. http://www.nwcaonline.com
  19. I see people saying 'the current format is the best' but not explaining why? Has Cael outlined his reasoning for opposing the dual meet championships? Personally, I think the changes are right for the sport and would create a 'team' championship that is easier to follow and more exciting for the casual spectator. I agree with almost all the arguments for the proposal and don't see much against it except for 'that's not how we do things around here, this is a conspiracy' from the perennial powerhouses. I want to be a PSU fan and was starting to drift in that direction with their recent success but I am now questioning if Cael has the sports best interest in mind or just his own teams. This could actually be good for helping bring even more interest to the PSU dual's and help them move into & fill out the Byrce Jordan Center. I also don't feel it takes away from the individual tournament. Most people that attend are either die-hard fans or family/friends of participants. It would still be the pinnacle of folkstyle wrestling and just as exciting to watch. My 2 cents.
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