Taylor is never going to beat Dake in International Wrestling Posted July 2, 2013 · Report reply Lets not change the subject. We are comparing the wrestling skill of JB two years ago against the anticipated skill of DT 8 months from now.It is absolutely relevant to use JB's freestyle skills as a data point when evaluating him as a wrestler. Now you add evaluating him "as a wrestler"...I like that little qualification you snuck in that. Except, we aren't evaluating him "as a wrestler" - we are comparing him as a collegiate wrestler to another collegiate wrestler...in folkstyle - the style of collegiate wrestling. I mean is there some sort of physical block in you brain preventing you from understanding this? Burrough's freestyle skills/accomplishments have ABSOLUTELY NO RELEVANCE when comparing him as a college wrestler to Taylor as a college wrestler. None...none at all. You know why? Because...and this is where it gets a bit tricky... in the hypothetical world of the comparison we are making, Jordan Burroughs as a freestyle wrestler/World and Olympic Champion on the post-college Senior level does not exist. We are comparing JB to DT in college - so just imaging that It is 2010 and Taylor and Burroughs are the same age and graduating the same year and they are about to wrestle each other...the last 2 years (JB's freestyle career) have not occurred yet. It is honestly not a very hard concept to grasp...Do you see now why Burrough's freestyle accomplishments have absolutely no bearing on the discussion? Im honestly asking - are you really unable to conceptualize what it is we are discussing? It really should not have to be said, let alone 4-5 times, that POST-COLLEGE wrestling should not be considered when comparing guys WHILE THEY WERE IN COLLEGE. Not sure where your reality disconnect is occurring. Going LIM with the CAPS does not bolster your argument. What JB did immediately after college is strongly indicative of the skill he had while in college just a few months prior to that. He did not pick up those skills in three months. His immediate post collegiate career success merely augments the fact that he was undefeated his last two years and won, in dominating fashion, brackets with at least 4 NCAA champions in them. It distinguishes and separates him from his peers. One of those peers is DT. Is there anything he can do to separate himself from JB in the last two years of their college career? I used the caps to illustrate the reasons you were missing/ignoring/whatever. I literally don't know how to make it any more clear that post-collegiate wrestling should not be considered when evaluating a college career or comparing two guys while they were in college. I mean literally, there is no other way to explain it after the way I just did. "He did not pick up those skills in three months" Ok. This is nonsense. No, he did not completely pick up those skill in only three months. But you are out of your mind if you don't think focusing full time on freestyle for those months is what propelled Burroughs to his World title. Honestly...the suggestion you are making with this statement is a little out of bounds.