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  1. Didn’t read the entire thread, but .... it seems to me that most folks on here don’t get or don’t want to understand or comprehend the “big picture”.  

    A P5 West Coast Program that is gone.  D1 Wrestling is in trouble.  Period.  

    Let’s have a NCAA Tourney with 20 Programs.  Go ahead & laugh but we are headed there.

    If this continues, “apathy” will dominate the Wrestling landscape going forward as fewer relevant Universities/Colleges will offer the sport we love.


  2. 2 hours ago, jackwebster said:

    I was wondering if anybody else is slowly/rapidly losing interest in our sport bc of the pandemic. 

    Even in the college off-season, I used to check the usual sources several times a day for updates. I would spend a few hours every week watching matches and a few more reviewing technique/training strategies.

    Now, I kinda don't care. E.g. I watched 1/2 of the first episode of the Cael-thing on Flo and turbed it off. Anybody else tuning out? 


  3. jdalu75 -

    I couldn’t agree more with your position.  I won’t repeat your thoughts, although I am tempted. I am taking the same precaution.

    I am longing/eager/desperate to see NCAA Wrestling but it’s just not a priority considering the overall situation which is still very dire.

    Things got crazy here in Missouri this past Holiday weekend .... where I live at the “Lake of the Ozarks” (see CNN, Twitter, etc).

    I would be surprised to see any wrestling in 2020, but am hopeful we can get to a point of at least having a “partial” Season & 2021 NCAA Tourney.

  4. On 5/1/2020 at 3:35 PM, SetonHallPirate said:

    I'll be blunt...there isn't likely to be a wrestling season until there's a vaccine. Most likely, there won't be any sports until there's a vaccine, but if things are opened up on a sport-by-sport basis, wrestling is probably going to be the very last sport to be allowed, due to the nature of it and the relative lack of protective equipment.


  5. 4 hours ago, MPC said:

    I worry that this is the first of several programs. I work in higher education and the industry is facing a potentially devastating revenue shortfall as a result of COVID-19. Wrestling programs may be low hanging fruit for administrators forced to cut millions. The best thing the wrestling community can do, is donate to your local university's wrestling program endowment. Show schools that they would anger a large contingent of donors if a program is cut.


    This is a terrible thing for D1 Wrestling.

    I am fearful that this is the first of several D1 Programs to be cut as a result of the “NCAA economic stress” resulting from this covid situation.

  6. I think many of us agree that the 16 week regular season needs to “mean more” than it currently does. The circumstances of this Season (cancelled Championships)  highlites the obvious shortcoming IMO.

    Not exactly sure how we realistically make the Regular Season mean MORE (Dual Championship, etc.).

    I would like to see more meaningful discussion on this topic from our current leaders, high profile coaches, media/FLO, etc.

  7. 31 minutes ago, moveurfeet32 said:

    I understand the different types of support but just surprised a team that has done so well struggles to grow a fan base. Smith is a Hall of Fame coach but one thing he's not very good at is filling seats. 

    Columbia is somewhat isolated from the population hubs (St. Louis, Kansas City, & Springfield).  This really affects their ability  to consistently produce higher attendance numbers.  Not an excuse, just a reality of geography & population.

    I have season tickets every year but it’s a full day to attend a dual (200 mile round trip).

    I have friends that go with me to NCAA’s for the past 20 years, but they won’t attend a dual unless it’s an Okie St. type of opponent.  The MAC affiliation is a big factor for attendance.

  8. 3 minutes ago, Schuteandscore said:

    I loved the way it was rolled out.  I agree that releasing the results slowly, almost as if the tournament was going in real time was excellent and added to the experience and did, as you stated, allow for discussion as results came out.  

    I also liked the predictions that still, even though it was based a formula, allowed for certain unexpected results/upsets which also added to the “realistic” feel as if the tournament was taking place.


    I know it’s not super helpful to not have criticism, but there wasn’t really anything I did not like, and appreciated the effort.  I stated in another thread, it made me feel normal as if the tournament was running and I was following, nicely done.

    100% echo these points.

    Well stated Schuteandscore.

  9. 21 hours ago, Marcus Cisero said:

    Jross – you’re a numbers guy, I get that – but to be honest with you, this stuff is boring. The stuff you recently produced from our accounts which highlighted your cherished compadres from the upper echelon while simultaneously trying to degrade those you dislike was at least somewhat interesting. Please don’t take this the wrong way but it seems like you’re putting an awful amount of time and effort into something that really appeals to only a few.

    I bet if the original framers of themat had your system in place back then it could have served a more useful purpose. It could have been used in a more productive way to increase participation by encouraging camaraderie among its existing posters while converting the 1000’s of views into even more posters.  A system like this used for growth purposes would never fly today because the owners gave the reigns over to the 20-30 or so know-alls who demonstrate daily why this site is a failure.

    If it bores you, don’t read it.

    It is very interesting to many people, myself included.

    Not all of these threads are intended to satisfy you.

    Thank you jross & please continue.

  10. 28 minutes ago, Pinnum said:

    Friday night is the best session and Saturday morning is the worst session. 

    The people at home watching on tv miss the best matches of the tournament in my opinion.  The round of 12 (blood round) is the most exciting wrestling.  


    The Semi’s & R12 are my 2 favorite rounds (and are huge for Team Points).  As they occur at the SAME time, there is no way to give these “simultaneous” matches the attention they deserve.

    Every year without fail, I finish watching the 3rd period of a great Semi match to find out that I just missed the end of an awesome R12 match.  Irritating.

    Wish they could seperate these somehow, someway.

    Gimpeltf idea merits consideration IMO. 

  11. Wow, quite the breakdown.  Well done.

    I didn’t see Alan Hart (Missouri) mentioned. He has wrestled well recently since presumably learning how to handle a tough cut to 133.

    I really thought he would be a great “Cinderella candidate” to make it to the R12 or even to the 7th place match.

    It’s all speculation at this point.

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