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    That's pretty cool. I have never seen that style used on a media guide before. Just one question though. If their sponsors are ASICS and Cliff Keen, why are they wearing Adidas shorts?
  2. Coach David Icenhower passed away this morning. I would have guessed we had gotten everybody through either Facebook or Email but just in case there is anyone interested in attending services please message me privately and I will get you the information. Thanks Mike
  3. Hi Ocho, I do not know Steinhaus, hence why I asked you. Thank you for the insights.
  4. Question. What does this have to do with the aforementioned post? You can be a hard worker and still be a user of performance enhancing drugs. Sometimes the two go hand in hand in that PED's allow for greater workloads and recovery. You can also be a stand up individual and still be human. I don't know the kid so to judge him would be ignorant. Maybe that is the original intent of your post? I am really just trying to understand how what you said here in anyway refutes his statement. You really don't understand? PED use involves cheating, drug usage and being good at what you do based on cheating and drug use not through hard work and talent. Again....you really don't understand? Dude. What is up with the dramatic response? This is an internet wrestling forum. Not the Oprah Show. To clarify my earlier statement in order to avoid any more hiney hurt, I simply wanted to clarify what the posters point was since I see a gap in the logic of his response. I find it a false premise to assume that an athletes Christian (or any other religion) faith somehow precludes him from using performance enhancing drugs. Even if they are against the rules. Plenty of "religious" people cheat, especially if they are driven to succeed. Sometimes even more so in that case. In my experience people who tend to wear their religion on their sleeve are more about seeking their own glory than God's. Jesus agreed with that in Matthew 6:1-34 I also find it a false premise to say that somebody being a hard worker precludes them from possibly being a PED user. PED's are not a lazy man's way to winning. It is a well known fact that they actually increase an athletes work output and recovery rate. That is all Idaho. I didn't mean to upset you.
  5. Question. What does this have to do with the aforementioned post? You can be a hard worker and still be a user of performance enhancing drugs. Sometimes the two go hand in hand in that PED's allow for greater workloads and recovery. You can also be a stand up individual and still be human. I don't know the kid so to judge him would be ignorant. Maybe that is the original intent of your post? I am really just trying to understand how what you said here in anyway refutes his statement.
  6. I always find it interesting when people frame this as a modern day situation. Ok, so maybe more people are doing this nowadays or it is more strategically planned as a possible advantage. However in the 1992 Division 1 Nationals there were at least 4 "older" national champions. Charlie Jones at 167 and Randy Couture at 190 were both in their late 20's. I believe due to military service. Couture lost but he was a two time finalist so there could have been some conceived advantage. He did fall to an absolute beast in Mark Kerr. But the ones that really surprise me which few mention are the Brands Brothers. Given their physically dominant style I would imagine that being even just a couple years older would have possibly given them a tremendous advantage. Both (obviously) were only about 1 month shy of their 24th Birthdays when they wrestled in the finals. Alan Fried (Tom's opponent) was only 20 years old (20 1/2 more accurately). I am not sure about Shawn Charles (Terry's opponent).
  7. According to his twitter page (48 minutes ago) he "is going to be ok". The fact he is tweeting is a good sign. I don't know of many mortally wounded knife stabbing victims who are spending their time surfing the world wide web.
  8. I am surprised to hear some of you guys think Delgado is just plain better than McDonough. I could easily see McDonough turning the table on Delgado if both make the finals, he will just have to change what seems to be a pretty poor strategy on his part. Granted Delgado is wrestling out of his mind right now, his ability to convert to finishes reminds me a lot of the transition John Smith made between his sophomore and junior years. Converting to finishes was the same problem smith was having with his single leg. Once Smith got the finish down to go along with his already awesome riding he was next to near unstoppable. I guess I just don't understand why both he and coach brands don't have him circle away from that left leg, which something you teach rec kids to do, to not circle into or wait for your opponents shot. Make him follow you or chase you with that lead leg. Delgado puts all his weight on that penetration side and McDonough just seems to stand there and wait for it. Last year that strategy worked because McDonough could just out length him and go behind. But this year Delgado is older, stronger, quicker and therefore penetrates much more deeply than in the past. Once he is in on McDonough's legs it is more a matter of converting than anything else. The key for McDonough is to not get there in the first place because if he does it is going to be a long night for him.
  9. I know Kevin Randleman won titles in 92 and 93 both against Corey Olsen of Nebraska in the finals. He didn't wrestle his senior year though so I don't know if he qualifies for your criteria of "going for". According to Mitch Clarks book, Randleman decided to not go out for the team but other sources say he did not qualify academically. Interestingly enough he would have met some of the criteria for your other thread in that he would have been a three time returning finalist after losing against Mark Reiland in the 1991 finals in Iowa City, his freshman year. That would lead to another interesting thread because I don't know of another example of a potential four time finalist/all american who didn't wrestle their senior year.
  10. http://www.wrestlingstats.com/ncaa/pdf/ ... 201998.pdf - 142 98 was the season the 3 wrestlers died. you were locked into your weight class and 7 pounds was added to each weight. even though the weight class was 142 everyone was weighing in at 149 on the back half of that year. big weight cutters were rewarded that year with the 7lb allowance if they were making the wieght prior to the change. eric jetton was rumored to weigh in the 150's for his 126lb final which was actually 133. We got 7 pounds? That was my senior year and I remember us only getting 3lb allowance. I feel cheated. It's either that or it was so long ago I don't remember correctly.
  11. Thanks! Going to see TCNJ and Kings wrestle tonight.
  12. Sorry, I was wrong. Just checked the brackets and 5 number one seeds won (Henson, Fried, Lincoln Mac, Smith and McCoy). I couldn't remember if McCoy was #1 seed that year given it was his first year up at heavyweight. Still that is a pretty outstanding group of #1 seeds.
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