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  1. This might have been discussed before, but I don't remember being very satisfied with the answers. So, here we go again: What was wrong with Dave Schultz? What's wrong with us? Apparently, he routinely choked out his practice partners, and we as a community laugh it off. https://www.flowrestling.org/events/6219726-wall-talks/videos?playing=6131912&limit=60 Sounds psychotic. Why do we let this slide?
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    Celebrations: response to Gf and Ash

    I don't have any problem with shoving someone for taunting you.
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    Celebrations: response to Gf and Ash

    Good point. I don't know. He probably didnt see it.
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    Celebrations: response to Gf and Ash

    John Smith looked like he did the pistols firing thing after GF reversed Ash. I dont think he did it at Ash, but maybe Ash perceived it that way. In any event, Ash was taunting OSU when he did it after the match.
  5. I like the distinction the nfl makes between celebrations and taunting. Celebrations that are the equivalent of giving yourself a pat on the back, giving your teammates a high-five, or saying "thank you" to fans are great, even if these celebrations are outrageously choreographed. E.g. I liked Bubba J's celebration when he shot his ankle bands out of the air and then jumped in his coaches arms like Baby in Dirty Dancing. Mocking or taunting your opponent is not ok. Mocking and taunting can be anything from baiting an overmatched opponent like Gable Steveson to interacting with the your opponent, his bench, or his fans after a win, score, etc. Today, seemed like Ash was out of line. J. Smith might have crossed the line, too. Ash pulled the guns on the OSU bench. In hindsight, it seems like a response to J. Smith pulling the guns after GF's crazy reversal. I think GF, not knowing what/who Ash was reacting to, can't be criticized.
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    Bo’s Gesture of Sportsmanship

    Good sportsmanship or condescension?: Brands didn't appreciate it, and I'm not sure what Cross intended with the head rub. But, Cross always had this post match ritual when he won: These Russians did not take the head rub the way Brands did.
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    Cael Face

    I haven't paid attention to how much he puts this piece of advice into matside coaching , but Steve Garland once told me (and I paraphrase) "Always stay positive about your team in public; always be honest in private." It seems like the right approach, but I have no evidence of its efficacy
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    Cael Face

    Good point. Obviously, there were guys with better college credentials.
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    Cael Face

    I think this captures all of Smith's assets and liabilities as a coach. At OSU he is the undisputed GOAT. Every coach on staff, the guys in the room, and every little kid who dreams of being cowboy know it. He is always right and knows what's best. JO said it explicitly in a recent flo vid. The best results come from guys who, like guerrero and scott, try to become John Smith Jr Jr, even down to imitating his voice. Other kids seem caught in a position of never being able to please him; I'm sure this provokes a lot of negative self talk.
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    Hair Cut

    BTW NPR reported on this story this morning, complete with hyperbolic comparisons to the holocaust.
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    Hair Cut

    The ref said racist things in the past, and the hair rules have racial implications. But, let's not appeal to "common sense." "Common sense" is often contradictory. "Curiosity killed the cat" is commonsensical, but so is "Nothing ventured, nothing gained." The prohibition against cornrows will obviously target black athletes. But, I don't think the prohibition is stupid. Cornrows are abrasive, like 5 o'clock shadow. I'm not equating cornrows with the dreads here. I'm just pointing out that some rules do have racial implications that aren't exactly racist. Wrestlers know things about race on a visceral level. Due to socio-economic factors, I tended to hang out with the black kids on my college team. One time, we were chatting about how different people smell, and I learned that it is common knowledge among certain folks that white guys smell like wet dog. I was dubious but, after a very unscientifc survey, I concluded that my friends were right: I did smell like a wet dog after practice. What to make of this? I don't know. Racism is complicated. https://m.facebook.com/VICE/posts/1331585123541409
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    Meanest guys on the mat

    Jim Akerly was the meanest guy I had the misfortune of wrestling. He would routinely choke out his athletes from the front head lock or when he threw in legs, a grown man choking out 18, 19 year-old kids who had been in a college room for less than month. There was no discernible tactical reason for him to do this. He could have turned us in any number of ways without risking permanent brain injury. But, I loved him. Must have been Stockholm Syndrome The most disturbing story I ever heard about a similar situation was from Royce Alger regarding Dave Schultz. While we celebrate Schultz as a great ambassador of the sport and I have never heard anybody who knew him personally speak ill of him, this story makes him seem psychotic. You can listen to it here:
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    Great for Suriano

    Marinelli notes the same peculiarites. He just thinks they are "awesome" rather than revolting: https://www.flowrestling.org/video/6293176-alex-marinelli-on-terry-the-flofilm
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    Great for Suriano

    I can dig some tu quoque: Palacio seems a little crazy but there's a meta element to it that makes him more palatable to me. I haven't seen much of Koll, but if he can accomodate the spaciness of Palacio and Dake and inspire their confidence, then they're a good fit.
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    Great for Suriano

    Here's another one: https://www.flowrestling.org/video/5973015-gilman-got-into-it-with-osu
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