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  1. I really enjoy watching RBY, and definitely like him better than Desanto, but I think the “no hands” on the leg while riding should be considered stalling if he’s doing nothing else. However, I don’t think the arm behind the back is stalling as long as he continues to wrestle. In regards to the out of bounds move on Desanto, you have to be wearing blue-colored glasses not to see that it was an intentional slam by RBY. He even celebrated afterwards. However, it wasn’t that bad of a slam, I’ve seen much harder mat returns with greater chance of injuring someone. It should have been a penalty point and people should move on.
  2. Everyone’s wasting their breath arguing with a clown
  3. What happened with Suriano and Penn St?
  4. The reason Ben most likely brought it up was because he didn’t think it was fair for Eierman to say that Missouri hadn’t developed him enough when (according to what Ben heard from a first hand source who to my knowledge would have no agenda against Eierman) Eierman didn’t fully take advantage of what Mizzou had to offer. If a wrestler transferred from Iowa and took pot shots at your program on the way out, you would defend your program if the criticism was unjustified. What Ben had to say had more to do with defending Mizzou and Brian Smith, at least from my viewpoint.
  5. If someone you trust tells you something, it’s not a shot to take them at their word. I’m not saying what Ben said is 100% true, but it’s not like Ben is spouting message board rumors. Also both statements could be true, Eierman could have been at RTC practices 2 years ago and not this past summer. Vak, if someone you knew close to the Iowa program told you something that you repeated on a message board, and then another person disputed it, would that necessarily mean you were taking shots at someone? We all know how outspoken Ben is. If Ben wanted to take shots at someone, he would take shots at someone and no one would have any doubts he’s ragging on them.
  6. From listening to the podcast, it appeared to me that Derlan took exception to and got worked up about Eierman’s comments regarding Mizzou not developing him enough. Dernlan and Ben discussed how rare it is to be a 4-time AA, and Eierman has already become a 3-time AA at Mizzou, while not being the most blue chip of blue chip recruits. Dernlan asks how has that now shown development? Eierman has gone from a really good wrestler to within one takedown of beating Yianni (who people put on a pedestal) for the last two years. Ben’s comment regarding Eierman not showing up to Mizzou summer workouts was in relation to them discussing the topic of “Eierman says that Mizzou hasn’t developed him enough, but did he really take advantage of everything Mizzou had to offer?” I agree that Ben is a total Iowa hater, and he usually leans into it because he enjoys trolling the Iowa fanbase, but you can tell he was barely even thinking about Iowa in this podcast. They were more an afterthought to the main focus, which was Eierman’s claims about Mizzou’s development. As to people saying that Dernlan is being nitpicky by only bringing up Eierman transferring and not others: all situations are not the same. McKenna transferred after his sophomore season when he regressed and didn’t even AA. Also Stanford does not have as strong of a track record of developing guys at the highest level like Mizzou. Kerkvliet has just started college, it’s not like he’s spent 4 years at a school, seen a ton of success and then transferred. You can’t just pick any person who’s ever transferred and say that Dernlan is being hypocritical by not mentioning them in the same breath as Eierman when their individual circumstances can be vastly different.
  7. Leeth probably doesn’t need to kill himself to make 141 if he just becomes a little more lean instead of having muscles on top of muscles. I saw his picture on the Mizzou Wrestling facebook page and he already looks much leaner.
  8. Grant Leeth needs to be considered at 141 if Yianni redshirts or moves up to 149.
  9. I still haven’t seen anywhere that says where Waters is heading. Does anyone have any info on that?
  10. For those who didn’t see it, Conan Jennings vs. Zach Elam. They were in triple overtime and Conan road Elam out in the first tiebreaker. Conan was having no luck getting an escape all match and was getting tired, so he chose neutral for the second tiebreaker. His thinking must have been that if doesn’t get taken down, he wins on riding time advantage (30 seconds from the first tiebreaker period). Elam ended up getting a takedown to seal the win.
  11. It’d be super interesting to know if a wrestler didn’t give up a single offensive point the entire NCAA Tournament and didn’t win a title (i.e. lost on only escapes, penalty points, etc.).
  12. From what I understand Mizzou tried to stay in the Big 12 as an affiliate member for wrestling after they joined the SEC. But the Big 12 was pissed about them leaving the conference and wouldn't let them stay. So I don't think that's an option. I would love nothing more than for Mizzou to join a conference like the B1G or Big 12 for wrestling, but unfortunately I just don't see how it could happen. So I guess this MAC and EWL merger is the best we can hope for for the time being.
  13. My apologies, I missed the Dec 31 rankings that would have taken that match into account. I just thought it was one of the more significant recent 184 matches and was surprised to not see a blurb about it in the Jan 7 rankings (because not much else happened at 184 the past week). But obviously if it happened on 12/30 it would hit the 12/31 rankings, not 1/7. Always been a huge fan of Flo, keep up the good work!
  14. No mention or account taken in the rankings for Dylan Wisman beating Max Dean at 184.
  15. I find it interesting that everyone assumes Dake is going down to 74kg for the Olympics. If he goes up to 86kg, his toughest competition is someone he's beaten two dozen times (assuming Cox goes 97kg).
  16. Of Intermat's Top 20 Rankings, Eierman will see these guys in Mizzou's duals: 1. Yianni 5. Kaid Brock 6. Sa'Derian Perry (pinned) 7. Mike Carr (dec.) 9. Josh Alber 10. Bryan Lantry 18. Nate Limmex Plus, he could wrestle the following guys at CKLV: 1. Yianni 2. Joey Mckenna 8. Mitch McKee 9. Josh Alber 11. Chad Red 15. Nicholas Gil 17. Dom Demas 18. Nate Limmex 19. Kanen Storr 20. Sam Krivus Probably not the most difficult but pretty darn tough. He could easily face every wrestler in the Top 10 aside from Nick Lee. I also hadn't thought ahead to Eierman and Kaid Brock's match until now, but that will be a barn burner, can't wait.
  17. 125: Lee Even if Fix goes 125 I still think Lee wins. Lee showed at NCAA's that he had it all: leg attacks, defense, top game. I think that extra year focusing on folkstyle instead of freestyle gives Lee the advantage for now. 133: Fix, or if Fix goes 125, Gross Gross is so good, but after watching that match with Tariq Wilson I just really feel that Fix is dynamic enough on his feet to beat Gross. If Fix goes 125, it's Gross' weight. 141: Yianni, or if he goes 149, Eierman I just don't see how anyone will beat Yianni no matter whether he goes 141 or 149. If he goes 149, Mckenna has a style that I think Eierman will figure out. If you don't let Mckenna score first or hit his dump, he'll have to open up more, leading right into Eierman's wheelhouse. 149: Yianni, or if he goes 141, Leeth People forget that Leeth hadn't wrestled a real match in like 2 years until last season. If Yianni isn't here, I think this is a wide open weight and Leeth will improve enough to come out on top in March. 157: Nolf He is going to absolutely wreck the field next season. 165: Joseph He gets it done and wins matches when they matter. I read those losses during the season as coming from the attitude of wanting to open up and get better, so I don't put much weight in them. 174: Zahid, or if he goes 184, Hall If Zahid goes 184, I think Amine will push Hall, but Hall will come out on top. I'm sure he's extra morivated this season as someone who's not used to not finishing on top. 184: Nickal Regardless of whether Zahid goes 184, I think Nickal wins. He is just so comfortable in any position and I predict he'll pull it out at the end of the year. 197: Moore I think we see him closer to what he was like his freshman season. 285: Gable I am not very confident about this pic, but I'm also not high on any of the current heavyweights returning, so I'm going with Gable.
  18. Valencia is too young. It's not fair he hasn't wrestled as many matches in his lifetime as Dake.
  19. Technically the rules did not impose a direct physical disadvantage on the challenger. They present an incumbent with an advantage, which must be earned. And plenty of sports provide physical advantages to competitors based on qualifying events. Track athletes with better qualifying events get the better lanes to race in. Same with swimmers. I'm pretty sure cyclists and race car drivers also get more advantageous starting positions based on qualifying events as well.
  20. Does it have to do with the last guys who won titles for their respective schools in their respective weight classes also being Hodge Trophy winners? Kyle Dake won a title at 141 as a freshman at Cornell and eventually won the Hodge. David Taylor won a title at 165 as a sophomore at Penn St and won the Hodge.
  21. One thing I never really saw an answer to was why one of their 149 lbers didn't move up to 157. Was Geo Martinez really not a better option than Blaylock? Regardless, I don't think their performance this year is a trend either. One poor season is not a downward slide.
  22. It's crazy to me with how wild this tournament's been in terms of upsets, the finals matches are all pretty much what people predicted except for Lee at 125 (which was a tossup between him and Nato anyways), Perry at 149, and Haught and Macchiavello at 197.
  23. It'd be easier to have a conversation if you didn't flip flop between "easy schedule" and "easiest schedule of any top 10 team in the country". Two very different things. I stand behind the statement that Mizzou's schedule was not easy. Whether Mizzou's schedule was the easiest of any top 10 team in the country is debatable depending on how NCAAs plays out, but I would agree that they're in strong contention. Regardless, most top 10 teams have very tough schedules, and just because someone's schedule is easier than a very tough schedule, doesn't make it easy. It could be tough, it could be average, it could be medicore, it could be weak. Add in the fact that determining how difficult a team's schedule is so subjective. Why determine it only by top 10 teams faced? Is a 12th ranked team so far separated quality-wise from the 10 that it shouldn't factor in at all for strength of schedule? Why not just make it top 5 teams faced? In that case would only Big 10 teams ever have tough schedules and everyone elses's would be easy then?
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