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Everything posted by bigrig

  1. Wrestling should certainly beat out Squash, IMO. But I don't find it surprising at all that Squash made the short list of sports being considered. We will likely see it in the Olympics some day. I don't see baseball/softball as real threat to beat our wrestling.
  2. And hit Ruth? Talk about out of the frying pan into the fire. Perry should just be pleased he got it done (barely) in 2013. Barring an injury, its not happening again.
  3. Not shooting this whole idea down. I like the out-of-the-box, but the premise that a material number of bball/fball players go pro is flawed. Very few go pro. The large % of fball & bball players are no different than wrestlers as it relates future earnings from their respetive sports.
  4. How did this thread get 3 pages deep without it somehow being hijacked into a Dake/Taylor debate?! We all know DT would have beat him in a national dual tourney. All kidding aside, I guess the event in its current format does not have the proper support to make it successful. If it did, it would not be getting sh*t-canned. But I gotta believe there is a way to make it work (profitably). How about simplifying it? Make it a 1 day, 4 team event (including a 3rd/4th place meet). Let the #1 seed have first option to host it. If they decline, offer it to the #2 seed, etc.. Hold it the the weekend before the conference tourney's. Have the same committee that handles seeding at NCAAs, seed the 4 teams. Select the teams 3 weeks before the event. Stop calling it National Duals and arguing if it should determine the NCAA champion. Come up with a good name for it. Have some top notch US Freestyle matches in between meets (invite guys who are graduates from the participating schools). That's it!! That's how we can get Dake/Taylor back in play!! I don't know if that works as described, but there's gotta be a way.
  5. These guys all finished their HS careers in PA undefeated so by definition they meet your criteria. There may be others who has their first lost as a Sr. I don't know of any though. James Conklin Jerry Maurey Mike Johnson Cary Kolat
  6. And Generalissimo Francisco Franco is still dead.
  7. Perhaps this forum does need active moderators.
  8. Some have commented on here that Ed's style make it unlikely he will achieve success at the next level. Others are much more optimistic. Personally, I have no clue whatsoever. While one can hazard a reasonable guess about most of the other top guys, I feel just the opposite about Ed. We pretty much know already which of the others are going to pursue FS and even have an initial sense of which ones are likely to be true contenders for spots on the US team. But not w/ Ed.....w/ him, we (or at least I) have no freaking clue. Clearly he was so far head and shoulders above the field this year that he did not have to push himself. He is simply that good. But in FS at the OTT he seemed out of place and had a poor showing. Will he get motivated to become a great FS wrestler? Can he adapt to the different style? If the answers to those questions are both yes, he may end up being a beast version of Jordan Burroughs and J Smith combined. But by the same token, I would not be totally shocked if it went in the other direction. Let's all hope he is interested and motivated to master FS. God that would be a fun ride.
  9. Have there been any US Olympians you disliked so much from their college days that you actually rooted against them in International competition? If so, who and why? The pro/anti Dake/Taylor situation got me wondering if either might face this if they somehow managed to make the US team someday.
  10. Most likely tied to what else was on other channels that year.
  11. I'm curious to know how many points each earned but I don't really care that much. I guess the reason I posted about it is b/c it just seems like another example (albeit a nit) of wrestling not "dotting their i's". Kind of like when you sit down to watch a match being streamed and they don't start the streaming until half way through 125. Why not start it 5 minutes early? Why not list the points for the Hodge? How can you have guys calling the match say things like "stallmate"? Jesus Christ. I can go on, but you guys know what I am talking about. There are countless examples. At this point in time I view amateur wrestling second only the the NFL as the most entertaining sport to watch. It drives me nuts that so few see it this way. So every time I see something that detracts from the sport (no matter how big or small, it jumps out at me). Probably didn't need to call this one out b/c it is such minutiae, but I did.
  12. That's the attitude that drives me nuts. Whether it be streaming issues, info on the sport itself, ideas to improve mainstream appeal (like a date change), raise money, etc, etc.. There is such pushback. i Just don't get it.
  13. It says in the link that Dake got 41 of 43 votes and Ed Ruth got the other two... Right, but that does not answer the simple question of how many points each wrestler earned. I believe the top point earners were: 1. Dake 178 2. Ruth 89 3 Oliver 88 4 L Steiber ?? Why won't they just list them? Sry for bitching, having a crap day. Just don't understand why wrestling makes things so much more difficult to follow and get info that other sports. I really don't care much about how many points each guy got. Dake was the obvious winner this year.
  14. Why the hell don't they list the points each wrestler earned in the voting? Why does everything have to be so difficult?
  15. This article actaully says that he did not move from WY, but commuted 1+ hrs a few times per week to UT to be coached by Cael's Dad and work out with guys like Chamberlain. It was in Jr high when he moved to OH. http://www.intermatwrestle.com/articles/4547
  16. I'm trying to better understand their histories together and how the timeline played out. Do I have this right: -Taylor was originally from WY - DT moved to UT at a very young age and was coached there by Cael's Dad. Taylor met and looked up to Cael during this time, but was never coached by him. - DT went to HS in OH and originally signed to wrestle for Cael at ISU - When Cael moved to PSU, DT de-committed from ISU and followed him to PSU. Is that basically how it played out?
  17. I know most in here dislike basketball for a multitude of reasons. I am not in that category. I was once a huge fan of college basketball and am still a casual fan. I hope I get the passion back for that sport some day, but it's currently hard for me to imagine that happening. Showing my age here, but in college basketball's hey day, I thought it was awesome (Mullin, Ewing, Rautins, Worthy, Sampson, etc.). The quality of play was phenomenal. The team and conference rivalries were great. And you had a chance to grow an attachment or disdain for the stars. College basketball has none of that now. The quality of play is at an all-time low. The rules are pathetic (e.g - charging calls, etc). And the star power is non-existent. If you do find a star you really like (or dislike), they are gone before you can build an emotional investment in the athlete. Once in a great while you get a 4-year player (e.g. Gerry McNamarra) to root for, but that is a rare exception. IMO, this is why wrestling is so far superior than college basketball right now. You can follow a guy like Dake, Oliver, Q, Steiber, Ruth, Taylor, etc for four (4) years (more if they red shirt) and grow a vicarious attachment to the guys. And if you followed them in HS too, that even compounds the interest level. It goes both ways too. There are certain wrestlers some of us love to "hate". Nothing wrong with that (within reason of course). In college basketball, you are rooting for a uniform or bracket you filled out. This is much less rewarding than rooting for individuals you feel attached to in some (silly) way. And if you are fortunate enough to be a fan of a college that can compete at a team level, it is even better. College hoops may have a bullet proof money maker with their March Madness tourney, but they can have so much more if they would steal a page from wrestling (or their own history) and bring back the star power. Sry for the long post.
  18. I like the reviews. I can handle the interruption to get more calls right. They have to come up with a more equitable means to distribute the # of reviews allowed. 3 per team when teams have different # of wrestlers makes no sense. I know they like to keep things simple, but not at the expense of common sense. I also wonder how well they are able to keep track of it when schools have multiple wrestlers wrestling at the same time. Options: Each wrestlers gets 2-3 "free" challenges per tourney (only lose them when you lose a challenge) Each wrestlers gets 1 "free challenge" per match (but if you win, you don't lose it) Another variation of the above is to allow additional challenges after the wrestler is out of free ones, but if they challenge and lose, it costs the wrestler one point. Just thinking out loud with those ideas, but 3 per team is just plain stupid IMO.
  19. As much of cornball as greeny is, my impression of him is that he is level-headed and decent guy at his core. He just screwed up here. Hopefully he does the right thing here and turns this into something positive for the sport, A simple apology would be nice, but I would love to see him take Dake's challenge and turn it into something that generates some publicity (and maybe money) for the sport. Working out with Dake for 30 minutes could be comical, but 2 minutes of sparring would even be better. Maybe even turn it into a fund raiser in some way with the proceeds being split between "The V Foundation" that Greeny supports and the efforts being made to save Olympic Wrestling. If something like this was done, I would be happy to make a nice donation to the efforts. Maybe one of you tweeters could tweet a link to this thread @espngreeny, @espngolic and @kyledake444 and see if it gets any traction.
  20. Unfortunately no I don't. On some days, they run a partial replay of the morning show in the afternoon. If such is the case today, maybe someone can record it and get that section uploaded (assuming it does not get cut). This isn't the first time Greenburg made fun of the sport by comparing it to pro wrestling. Today was just another example of unfunny and unoriginal schtick by Greenie. It just annoyed me even more this time given the IOC situation and how incredible of tourney it was this year. FYI -- Golic and his brother both wrestled at Notre Dame. Bob was an AA (maybe even a finalist).
  21. Now is not the time for Greenburg to be pulling his bullsh*t schtick about wrestling (mocking the sport by comparing it to pro wrestling). Dake has an historical performance. It's one of the best years for NCAAs in a long time and the IOC is considering dropping the sport for the 2020 games. And this jacka$$ mocks the sport after Golic gives a sincere shoutout to Dake, et al. Below is the show's email address. Give 'em a piece of your mind. mikeandmike@espnradio
  22. https://twitter.com/magicman_psu Scroll down by day.
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