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Everything posted by ironmonkey

  1. Hmmm sucks to be a fan of this team considering we shouldn't discuss the team, we shouldn't want conference titles or AA individual honors, and if we do, we should expect to lose our jobs which in my case anyway, pays a fraction of what Coach Goodale is being paid? Sounds like maybe we should root for another team!!! I must have been mistaken when I heard Rutgers was now a member of the BIG 10. Isn't that the big time? I don't think discussing the team is stirring the pot. In my case anyway, I have very few friends who care about this sport, and the few who do, stopped following it as soon as they were done participating. Since I follow Rutgers and live in NJ, it is nice to hear what other fans are thinking about the progress of the program, just like guys talking on the train or the ferry in the morning before work about Sanchez, Eli Manning, Derek Jeter or Rex RYan, or perhaps more comparably, Rutgers football. I am not a keyboard warrior. I was an average div 2 wrestler a long time ago and never have claimed to be anything more. I never implied I had the answers or that Gooddale was bad for the program. Perhaps others may have in this thread, but I didn't. I was simply talking sports. Perhaps that was my mistake. Maybe we should let the threads go back to Dake and Taylor and fans of programs never mentioned here should just continue to follow those teams in silence because they might offend someone associated with the program...
  2. Goodale has done a decent job setting the plate, but I don't think he has the answers on how to clear it now. In other words, he got the program to where it can attract some talent, but it doesn't seem like he can get over the next hurdle. Obviously, as pointed out above, Z is the only exception. He has improved a lot under SG's watch. However, Winston and Mason seem to have gotten worse, while Langel, Melde and RInaldi seem to be wrestling at the same level they have been for the past few years (RInaldi is wrestling well in my opinion, he is just getting more recognition now and deserved the same recognition in the past. Has he improved much though from last year or the year before?). This is supposed to be the year for Rutgers to make a mark with so many redshirt seniors from that highly ranked recruiting class. However, they got beat up by Nebraska (one dual means little - could be just bad matchups, but still....), and when their guys have a chance to wrestle a top 10 guy, they come up short. They should still be a decent dual team this year, but I think expectations have to be tempered a bit after what Nebraska did to them. Which brings up the obvious: Is this the best Goodale can do, and if so, is it acceptable? I don't think Mason or Winston place... I think Zanetti and Rinaldi still have a chance though. They are tough enough to make a run. Smith, Langel and Melde could win a couple of matches. If this happens, it will be an improvement over last year, but is it enough? It will be a few years just to get back to where they are now, and now is not exactly where they hoped to be.
  3. Latest rankings: Updated @Intermat rankings for #RUWR: 141-Melde, 20th; 157-Winston, 18th; 174-Zannetti, 10th; 184-Rinaldi, 14th. - Does Rutgers get over the hump and get an AA this year, and if not, what does that mean for the program? - Who has the best chance to do it?
  4. Agree 100%! As a Rutgers fan, it is great. I see other fans from other schools complaining about announcers who don't understand the sport. We have two announcers who can follow (and explain) the action clearly while giving the history of the competitors. As far as Rutgers "homerism", often it adds a bit of comedy while watching. Winston match was tough, although he looked good in the 1st. 3rd period continues to be his weakness so to speak... Viscaro looked great! Any word on Mason? I was suprised they did not mention him during the 149 pound match...
  5. Wrestling looks as exciting as ever to me. Why rock the boat? I hate the idea of a pushout point. Wrestling taking place near the edges is some of the most exciting wrestling. The "shot clock" won't work well for reasons mentioned above, most notably, why must a wrestler match shots when there are other ways to score? Attempting to improve position is more important than taking shots. I don't see any more stalling than has ever existed. I think some people have their hearts set on convincing nonfans the sport is exciting and/or get hooked on freestyle. I have given up on the former and don't care much for the later. College wrestling is great!
  6. True story: My first collegic match freshman year and I was losing by one late in the 3rd period. We were neutral, and after going out of bounds, I grabbed my opponents arm on the way back to the center of the mat, and asked, "How damn long is 7 minutes!?!?!" Well, he didn't respond, and I ended up losing. I ended up losing a lot of matches in the 3rd period that year and the next. I can't speak for others, and my lifestyle at the time was questionable at best (waaay too much partying), and it was only div 2 which is a lot different than div 1, but I never got used to that extra minute no matter how hard I trained.... I could run 5 minute miles, I could run 5 miles at a good pace, but I could not wrestle for a full 7 minutes hard. It really changed the sport for me. I began dreading matches because I was anxious about running out of gas, and I became less aggresive while acknowledging that worry early in matches. I did not have a hard weight cut so this is not really related to the original topic, but I had to respond when I saw what JohnnyThompsonnum wrote. For most wrestlers, I suspect the extra minute may not make much difference, but for others, it makes a lot of difference physically and/or mentally.
  7. While burnout could be the problem, I think it could also be frustration. Mason looks stronger (looks alone, not in his wrestling) than he has the past 3 years. he obviously put some time in the gym this offseason, yet he is struggling. He still can not keep up physically with the better opponents. If he did work this offseason to get stronger, and become more physical, and it made no difference, I can understand his frustration. he probably has high hopes for this season. Many felt he just lacked the strength and intensity to AA but the skill was there. if he added some strength, and still feels physically outmatched, he might just feel powerless which would account for the hanging head, lack of will to escape etc etc. At the highest levels of college wrestling, genetics definitely make a difference. He is off to a tough start but peaking happens at the end of the season, not now. He can still turn things around. Losing to Vinson is nothing to hang your head over. I was disapointed he did not take the mat against Army, but maybe it was for the best. On a semi related note, do they have someone to share the load at 149 this season? What happened to Jordan Beverly? IS Perrotti at 157?
  8. I think Winston will AA this year. Rutgers haters (why are there so many of you anyway?!?!) should focus their attention on Mason, who may not even make nationals the way he is wrestling.... I figured Molinaro would help Mason, but that doesn't seem to be the case so far. Any inside info? Is Mason injured? Why did they forfeit against army @ 149?Z and RInaldi look tough and Langel looks healthy and will be a handful for anyone. They have a good lineup this year and should have a couple of guys that can make a run late season! The only weak weight class looks like 197 from an outsiders perspective.
  9. Just give me the feed. The bells and whistles are not neccesary. I don't need someone knowledgable commentating or summarizing or a neat little score table in the corner. Those things are certainly nice, but considering we are forced to follow twitter feeds today, live video alone would be a HUGE and welcome improvement.
  10. Rutgers is posting results as well @ http://twitter.com/JoePollard1 .Rutgers beat Columbia 30-6. Columbia won decisions at 149 and 197. Highlights were Winston over Ohara and Zanetti over West. Lowlights were Mason losing to Santos. Of course, this is reversed if you are a Columbia fan... Rutgers is leading Binghamton 7-0 right now behind Langel and Defalve wins. The above link http://www.tournaflex.com/nedualsresults.asp is not working for me either...
  11. He was recruited at Rutgers for Football. They have a decent record for putting a few guys in the pros each year. He was a 3 star guy, kinda like Ray Rice.... In other words, it wasn't all that crazy. We have seen crazier recently. 5 ft 11 def tackles going to Monmouth for instance... That was a pipedream (although you have to respect someone for chasing the dream. It is easy to give up when everyone tells you it is crazy). In both cases, it would have been nice if they decided to stay in state and wrestle for Rutgers! I wasn't trying criticize Camp's NFL dreams as much as the general HS athlete's pro sports dreams...I agree, he could have had an outside chance (and still might) at NFL. I know. I was just pointing out that he was recruited to a BCS conference (well kinda sorta anyway - Big East is struggling although Rutgers is having a good year). I agree with the sentiment for the most part. I am suprised by the original post. Seems crazy to talk about a sophomore AA candidate as a disapointment, especially with the huge upside in this case. Not everyone can be a 4 year monster, but sometimes, the 1 and 2 year monsters end up being better in the end.
  12. He was recruited at Rutgers for Football. They have a decent record for putting a few guys in the pros each year. He was a 3 star guy, kinda like Ray Rice.... In other words, it wasn't all that crazy. We have seen crazier recently. 5 ft 11 def tackles going to Monmouth for instance... That was a pipedream (although you have to respect someone for chasing the dream. It is easy to give up when everyone tells you it is crazy). In both cases, it would have been nice if they decided to stay in state and wrestle for Rutgers!
  13. I don't want to know his personal business, but is his departure wrestling related? Is he coming back? Is he transferring? Is he finished wrestling altogether? Is he tired of wrestling or tired of the program? Seems like a shame to take his lumps as a freshman, burn a redshirt, only to give up the three years he would get to give some lumps back now that he has improved.
  14. Agree 100%. Rinaldi and Z are game and very physical. Winston will be in the mix too but Rinaldi and Z just seem tougher to me. Perhaps WInston is struggling with the weight drop or is sick like the announcers claimed. If he is "beat up" already though, I don't see how he is going to make it through the season with any type of success. Then again, that was the 4th ranked wrestler in the country he nearly beat today.... I am not sure what the story is with Mason. He has never been overly physical. I was impressed with Smith and Melde. I think Visicaro is going to be really good. From top to bottom, Rutgers looks like a decent Duel team. What happened with Wagner at 197? Is he hurt?
  15. Anklepicker all 3 of them have improved. They are expected to get a little better as they get older though and may have improved just from experience alone. Have they made great strides that warrant Goodale being credited for their improvement? WHat proof is there they have made any noticeable improvement at all outside of growing from mat time? You say everyone focuses on Winston and I agree. How about Mason or Langel? It would be a great coincidence if everyone he recruited managed to peak already. If that is the case, then perhaps his ability to evaluate talent during recrutiing should be criticized rather than his coaching. Either way, something was amiss. I say was because like I said above, I think they right the ship this year and make their mark... Everything is in place for them to have a good year. They have experience, some depth, a new assistant coach, and would seem to be competitive from top to bottom (if winston is at 157 and rinaldi at 184 - if not, 157 and 184 may be questionable for them again). Either way, they should make some noise this year and silence the criticism with success. If they don't, I don't see much changing under the current regime in the coming years.
  16. You can say the recruiting was far from stellar, yet 3 of those classes were ranked and one of them was the number 2 class. Have they finished inside the top 20 at the NCAAs with that talent (including Mason and older Ashnault who were not included in those rankings)? The answer is no which is a failure to develop talent... With all that said, I think they turn it around this year. Winston is obviously the poster boy for Rutgers, but he is far from the underachiever he is made out to be here. He has won the conference, and lost last year in overtime to the NCAA runnerup in the finals. If they fail this year (failure being another low finish at the NCAAs), there is an issue that needs to be fixed. That number 2 recruiting class is now all seniors, and most of them had a redshirt year too. This is the year for Goodale to make his mark. Another low finish will be a real blow against the program. As for New Jersey keeping the talent, that has been the mantra of Rutgers for years. I don't think it will ever happen any more than it does now (in football too). Interesting side note: Winston wrestled off at 157 and RInaldi at 184 earlier today...
  17. Ok So I read this back and forth and didn't understand the big deal. I figured it will work itself out. It would be nice to have the event advertized in advance if "growing the sport" is the goal, but I figure it will all work out regardless for the fans who follow year round. As long as I can watch the match, I would be happy as could be... However, now you are saying the reason for the delayed announcement is because they want to be sure they can stream it first. So there is a chance this won't be streamed? Just to clarify, you mean streamed live correct? In other words, this may not get live coverage, but we can count on taped delay to see the event? Live is great, but I don't mind taped delay. As long as there is some way to see the action.
  18. I think he has a good chance if he stays healthy. Does anyone else on the Rutgers team have a shot this year? Anyone with any inside scoop about the offseason work they are putting in and who is progressing?
  19. Rutgers could use some better assistants....
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