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  1. MSU158

    Free vs Folk - The great compromise!

    First of all they go through at least 6 additionally timed OTs to get to that point. Secondly, each guy is given the choice for the exact same position for the exact same amount of time. They KNOW they are tied and that riding time is the new deciding factor when tied in OT Third, they don’t decide that 2 takedowns are worth more than 4 escapes or that if you got a stall point to have a “better” 4 points than the other guy in regulation lastly, my point is that a score that ends tied in regulation is a TIE. If you want to make different criteria for OT to keep the match from going 20 mins, I can see that, but the OT criteria in DI is NOTHING like the joke that Freestyle currently has.......and I hope you are really, really young with a TON of patience if you expect to see High School wrestling morph into anything closely resemble what freestyle is today, in your lifetime! good day, sir!
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    Spencer Lee isn’t redshirting

    Welp, maybe you should talk to him directly. Considering you seem to know what he wants more than he does. Maybe you could remind him that not wrestling goes against his beliefs and the fact that he was only a true sophomore doesn’t matter because he is already on borrowed time. I mean, how many guys make the senior team, let alone win medals when they are 21 or older........
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    Free vs Folk - The great compromise!

    I absolutely HATE criteria. It literally goes against what we have been taught since children. Guess what? 4 is equal to 4. How you got to 4 should NOT matter. 5-4 beats 4. 4-4 does not. Also, why does the guy that scores a push out at the end when down 4-3 deserve to win? Because he had incentive? Guess what? Being down 4-3 with short time left should be ENOUGH incentive by itself.....
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    Free vs Folk - The great compromise!

    Did you not read the OP’s post? He clearly stated wrestling freestyle under the international rules. As such, I wouldn’t see the NCAA going to a style that they wouldn’t even be the one making the rules. With that said, I don’t have an issue with experimenting a bit slightly tweaking some rules to align more closely. However, I truly find the current folkstyle rules superior to freestyle and don’t want to see it changed to a sport that barely has a national following. On top of that you would essentially be changing all of the current system to MAYBE help improve the roughly 8 or so guys per 6 weight class that are relevant per 4 year cycle. The good Thing for me is that a solid majority agrees with me. High School and younger absolutely isn’t changing and the NCAA isn’t doing more than minor tweaking for the foreseeable future.
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    Free vs Folk - The great compromise!

    The current US Senior product is probably the best of ALL TIME! Yet, we have some vocal guys pushing hard to change collegiate wrestling? I just don’t see the NCAA EVER going to an Internationally governed style that can, and has, be seriously altered at the drop of a hat. Can you imagine the ball grab in a dual meet?
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    Spencer Lee isn’t redshirting

    It got them zero? Like Lee was guaranteed to win it? Did Gilman not make the Finals and lose in the 3rd match of best of 3? Did anyone else sit where they were a contender, with another HWC guy at that weight? The simple truth is Iowa is ALL IN on winning NCAA’s this season focusing on Folkstyle and getting 100% healthy in the off season. If it were the Olympic year, I could get the angst. But, it isn’t. By all accounts, this is Iowa's Best chance in 10 years. If Iowa wins it all or even takes a close 2nd to PSU, NOONE is going to care that Lee didn’t wrestle at the 2019 WTT’s.......
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    Braxton Amos

    I agree. It does go both ways and that is why I said what I did about top notch 215/220 recruits. It is so hard to gauge what weight class fits best and if either even does. On top of that, I doubt most 215/220's ever really dealt with weight management and that would be a big issue in DI even if they went 285.
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    Braxton Amos

    He is pretty thick. Hopefully it works out for him. Have seen plenty of top talent fizzle out or fall a bit short trying to hold 197, which is why I am hesitant with highly ranked 215/220 recruits.
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    Braxton Amos

    Not me. MSU sure as hell isn’t happening and Iowa is fully committed to their young 197-285 combo. Now, I will say that OkState looks like they need him by far the most out of the big 4(PSU, tOSU, Iowa and OkState) +3 Cornell, Michigan and Missouri. PSU has Cassar extended 2 more years and Michael Beard coming in. tOSU has Kerkvliet and maybe Singletary dropping to 197. Iowa has Warner and Cass. Michigan has Mason Parris, but they may truly need a 197 of Davidson hasn’t improved. Missouri- He could definitely fit in here, but they do the best with a teeny bit less. Elam is solid and Punke has solid potential. OkState is HURTING up top, even with some stellar recruits lined up at other weights. Adding Amos to that crazy strong 2020 class would put Smith above even Sanderson’s best recruiting year.
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    Braxton Amos

    Slooooooowwwwww time of the year. Troll's can at least be good for generating conversation.
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    Braxton Amos

    285? Can Braxton even make 197? You realize that Cassar is the 1st Finalist for PSU under Sanderson? Still, tOSU does a side by side VERY well for 197-285 against ANYONE. tOSU------------197--------------285-------------------------PSU-------------------197---------------------285 2019 Moore 2nd----Singletary (2-2)--------------------------------Nickal 1st----------------Cassar 1st 2018 Moore 4th------Snyder 1st--------------------------------------Rasheed 7th------------Nevills 7th 2017 Moore 3rd------Snyder 1st--------------------------------------McCutcheon R12----Nevills 5th 2016 Martin DNQ---Snyder 1st---------------------------------------McIntosh 2nd---------Nevills DNP 2015 Snyder 2nd----Tavanello (0-2)--------------------------------McIntosh 3rd----------Lawson 6th 2014 Heflin 2nd------Tavanello R12--------------------------------McIntosh 7th----------Gingrich (1-2) 2013 Campo (0-2)---Karageorge DNQ----------------------------Wright 1st--------------Lawson (1-2) 2012 Campo R12----Capone (1-2)----------------------------------McIntosh (1-2)-------Wade R12 2011 Capone (1-2)--Stolarsky DNQ-------------------------------Ruggear DNQ----------Wade R12 2010 Magrum(2-2)--Morrison (0-2)--------------------------------Steadman DNQ-------Wade (2-2) These don't even account for Pucillo or Bergman right before that timeframe. So, in the past 10 years, tOSU has 2,2,2,3,4,R12,(2-2),(1-2),(0-2) and DNQ at 197. PSU, in that same 10, has 1,1,2,3,7,7,R12,(1-2),DNQ and DNQ. At 285, tOSU has 1,1,1,R12,(2-2),(1-2),(0-2),(0-2), DNQ and DNQ. At 285, PSU has 1,5,6,7, R12,R12,(2-2),(1-2),(1-2) and DNP. Even adding 184(which PSU has basically OWNED), tOSU does well, with emphasis on the past 5 years 2010---------------Pucillo(1 handed) R12-----------------------------------Erwin (2-2) 2011--------------Magrum(1-2)--------------------------------------------------Wright 1st 2012--------------Magrum inj-----------------------------------------------------Wright 2nd 2013--------------Magrum(1-2)--------------------------------------------------Ruth 1st 2014--------------Courts R12-----------------------------------------------------Ruth 1st 2015--------------Courts 5th------------------------------------------------------McCutcheon R12 2016--------------Courts(0-2)----------------------------------------------------McCutcheon(0-2) 2017--------------Martin 5th------------------------------------------------------Nickal 1st 2018--------------Martin 2nd-----------------------------------------------------Nickal 1st 2019--------------Martin 3rd-----------------------------------------------------Rasheed(2-2)
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    Braxton Amos

    Yeah, let's not forget 2 Junior World teams winning a bronze in 1 and then a U23 World Silver. But, yeah.........
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    Askren.......OUCH!

    The thing you are CLEARLY misstating is that he has EVER needed striking skills or that lack of them is why he has taken headshots in the last 2 fights. What he NEEDS is proper stand up defense and transitioning to grappling. One thing Ben has always had is a gas tank. Yet in both matches he rushed forward WIDE OPEN. Bad strategy got him in trouble in both fights. NOT bad striking skills. Now, I do think he is a bit too aged at this point and his UFC fights are numbered. But, he is still that good on the ground that he CAN beat anyone in that division. The key is whether or not he can apply the proper game plan and defend against early barrages. That and whether or not he really, wholeheartedly needs to continue fighting. If the loss doesn't energize him along the lines of Gable after Owings, I would say retire and focus on making other great wrestlers........
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    Askren.......OUCH!

    Ok. To me, regulating sports HAS TO look at the intent of the sport itself. What IS the intent of the sport? Is it to highlight athletic skills by trying to injure an opponent or is that injury solely an unintented result. If the former, you have serious questions to answer when trying to get people to accept it. How can you regulate something that NEEDS to have this to be itself? MMA and even boxing, to a lesser extent, have to deal with this. Meanwhile, Football injuries are usually(I know there are bounties and things of that nature) a byproduct of the physical nature of the sport itself. As such, the powers that be have continued to try to make rule changes to try to minimize the unintended injuries. So, to be CLEAR, I believe the intended design of the sport itself creates its own issues with regulation or even the ability to regulate it. I am not saying I have an issue with MMA or boxing. If both parties know the risks and accept them, I am fine with them doing it. But, we are, at least when it is visual, a "PC" society. Having guys make a living beating each other up, is hard for many to get behind. If the INTENT is not to injure, but it happens as a by-product, it IS much more acceptable.
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    Askren.......OUCH!

    To be clear, all I was trying to do was relate intent across the board of life in general. To me, atleast, I always try to look at the intent of every person, thing, situation, policy, game, etc. I then judge these things based on that. For a further life example: 1.) A man walking down the street saw a burning house and jumped in to save a child and DID. Hero, right? 1.)A man accidentally started a fire and then jumped back into a burning house to save a child and DID save that child. Still every bit a hero, right? 2.)A man jumped into a burning house to save a child and DID save that child. However, he started the fire INTENTIONALLY. Not so much a hero, but at least he draws a line. 3.)A man jumped into a burning house to save the money in his safe, but happened to come out with a child in the process. At least he isn't truly selfish. 4.)A man jumped out of a burning house and ignored the child. Not good. 5.)A man started the fire and let the child burn. Very not good. 6.)A man started the fire TO burn the child. Do I need to clarify? Hopefully, we can move on from this and let you guys argue about boxing gloves!!!!
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