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  1. That is a ridiculous comment. If Iowa gets 10 AA’s and still loses, calling that a choke is pure STUPIDITY. You don’t put 10 guys making the podium and the word “choke” together in the whole of a Stephen King unabridged novel, let alone In the same sentence. What it would be is PSU having 5 super blue chip studs do what they are supposed to do. Still, I would be super shocked if Iowa gets 10 AA’s and loses to even PSU having 5 champs. Other than Nick Lee, I wouldn’t expect a ton of bonus from the champs so maybe they get 115ish from them. The rest of the field getting 10 total would be a surprise. 10AA’s should easily surpass 125.
  2. To get back on topic: Iowa had 9 guys place top 5, 3 different seasons, but never had 10 AA's. Iowa had 9 AA's a total of 6 times. Other times not listed '81,'91 and '95. 1.) Minnesota(2001) had 10 AA's but had an 8th,8th and a 6th to disqualify them. 2.) Iowa(1983) had 9 AA's place top 5, taking 1,1,1,2,4,5,3,5,1. The only guy to not AA was Rico Chiapparelli at 167. He won his 1st 2 matches to make the Quarters and then lost 2 in a row to drop in the R12. 3.) Iowa(1985) had 9 AA's place top 5 again, taking 1,5,4,2,2,2,5,1,5. The only guy to not AA was Steve Wilber(HWT). He lost 1st round. 4.) Iowa(1992) had 9 AA's place top 5 again, taking 1,1,3,5,5,3,5,1,2. The only guy to not AA was Mark Reilland(167) He would do the same as Rico and lose in the quarters and R12.
  3. To get back on topic: Iowa had 9 guys place top 5, 3 different seasons, but never had 10 AA's. Iowa had 9 AA's a total of 6 times. Other times not listed '81,'91 and '95. 1.) Minnesota(2001) had 10 AA's but had an 8th,8th and a 6th to disqualify them. 2.) Iowa(1983) had 9 AA's place top 5, taking 1,1,1,2,4,5,3,5,1. The only guy to not AA was Rico Chiapparelli at 167. He won his 1st 2 matches to make the Quarters and then lost 2 in a row to drop in the R12. 3.) Iowa(1985) had 9 AA's place top 5 again, taking 1,5,4,2,2,2,5,1,5. The only guy to not AA was Steve Wilber(HWT). He lost 1st round. 4.) Iowa(1992) had 9 AA's place top 5 again, taking 1,1,3,5,5,3,5,1,2. The only guy to not AA was Mark Reilland(167) He would do the same as Rico and lose in the quarters and R12.
  4. That isn't true either. There has been a great amount of positive discussion about Iowa this season. Most of the DeSanto chatter is pretty much exactly that. Chatter about DeSanto. Please tell me how the F*** I am supposed to be able to tell you are only taking about DISCUSSION based on this sentence: "Also, it’s a shame a team with a perfect dual season on the verge of capturing a ncaa team championship is derailed by one wrestler’s extras." If I said, My penis is really large. You would take it to mean exactly that. But, what I really meant was compared to Asian men. I mean shouldn't you know I was only comparing myself to Asian men?
  5. "derailed"? One thing I can say FOR CERTAIN is they are still firmly on the tracks toward a championship. DeSanto's "antics" this season are so trivial that they mean next to nothing in the grand scheme of things, regardless of any/all haters and apologists on the message boards.........
  6. Gotcha. Well.......shame on SStern as well! But, remember "2 wrongs don't make a right" or, even better, "if he jumped off a bridge would you follow him?" All in good fun!
  7. Sorry, it wasn't meant as a personal attack and was solely meant to do Gadson the justice he deserved. Admittedly, mispelling his name set me off a bit, but it was still not meant to directly slam you. I just happened to have the pleasure of speaking with his dad on several recruiting occasions. He coached at nearby EMU at the time and really wanted my buddy much more than me.
  8. Man, that is so inaccurate and does no justice to what Gadson(the actual correct spelling of his name) did in that match. That was ALL Gadson! The sequence takes place at 6:40 in the video below:
  9. Not a fan of medians in this situation. They essentially "throw out" outliers as if they don't count. But, in this situation they should and do. You can't just cherry pick years and say they don't count when the topic itself is consistent finishes. But, so everyone knows the median for PSU over that time frame would be 1. The median for Iowa would be 3. The median for tOSU would also be 3. Now, what would OBVIOUSLY favor PSU IMMENSELY would be the average finish over the past 10 years. PSU: 9,1,1,1,1,6,1,1,1,1=23/10=2.3 Iowa: 1,3,3,4,4,2,5,4,3,4=33/10=3.3
  10. Actually have things like that memorized. Sorry, if any of that came of as negative. I am pro Ryan all the way and he has done an amazing job at tOSU. I just have spent quite a bit of time pointing out the actual numbers for the top 5 or so teams over basically the exact time frame you mentioned. Iowa is the ONLY team that has finished in the top 5 every season since then(not true they took 8th Brands 1st season-2007) and even PSU, with 8 championships, does not have a better average finish over that timeframe. PSU: 11,3,17,9,1,1,1,1,6,1,1,1,1=54/13=4.15 Iowa: 8,1,1,1,3,3,4,4,2,5, 4,3,4=43/13=3.31
  11. That really isn't accurate the past 2 seasons. He is 47-3 the past 2 seasons. All 3 of those losses were to Nickal. Of the remaining 47 matches he has wrestled THREE truly close matches. Schultz 7-5 in OT, Norfleet 5-3 this season and Woodley 6-4 in OT. The only other score that was close was 5-2 over Warner last year, but if you remember that match, it was mainly Warner playing keep away, which he is actually very good at doing. Simply put, the only season Moore was somewhat erratic was his sophomore season and I learned that it was due to a pre-season injury that nagged him all season. Other than that, the guy has been the poster child for consistency!
  12. WTF's his freshman season? Are you kidding me? That was arguably his best season. He only lost 4 times and all 4 were to the top 2 guys at NCAA's. Those top 2 guys were really good that season. You may have heard of Cox, whom he lost to 6-4, pressing him very hard late in the match. The other was Pfarr(15-7 on December 2nd, 7-5 2 months later and 13-9 in the NCAA Semis) whom he also beat at B1G's. His only relatively close matches that season were against Studebaker(took 5th that season), Jake Smith(was ranked really high, but was injury plagued) and Anthony McGlaughlin(an Air Force guy who averaged giving up about 4 points per match that season. Both the Smith and McGlaughlin matches were on December 2nd as well. His ONLY real hiccup was his sophomore season. Originally, I chaulked it up to problems with the weight cut. However, someone on HR posted an interview where he said he sustained an injury while competing overseas and that lingered all the way through that season. Still, even that season he only lost 4 times(Michale Macchiavello-Champ, Conel-2xs(3rd) and Cassar) Last year, his ONLY losses were to Nickal and the ONLY close match he had against anyone else was Schultz(7-5 OT). Schultz also only lost 8-6 to Nickal. This year, he has pretty much dominated everyone with the exception of Woodley and Norfleet early on in the season. Truly, Moore is probably one of the 3 most likely guys to win an NCAA Championship. There really is NOONE in the weight at his level and he has only lost to Nickal the past 2 seasons. Its just that many can't shake his sophomore season and give what was still a 4th place finish too much negative weight!
  13. He may very well be close to the "worst", at least most visibly, in DI wrestling. I would agree with that. However, that "worst" is still super TAME compared to many DI athletes in more high profile sports. Simply put, what he has done at Iowa isn't worth much more than an eyebrow raise in the grand scheme of things. Intentionally trying to injure people while at Drexel was, but holding onto something that happened years ago, while at a different University doesn't hold much weight in my eyes, while judging him as a Hawkeye.....
  14. I love what Ryan has done at tOSU, but this statement necessitates pointing out the difference between someone's "seems like" and the actual reality. Still credit is due, since they have taken 1st, 3rd, 2nd, 2nd and 2nd the past 5 years which is super impressive considering what PSU has done. 2007: 10th 2008: 2nd 2009: 2nd 2010: 8th 2011: 29th 2012: 5th 2013: 6th 2014: 6th 2015: 1st 2016: 3rd 2017: 2nd 2018: 2nd 2019: 2nd
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