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  1. Sure as hell wouldn't want to live in your world. Smoking dope only affects (directly) the user and is voluntary. Physical abuse/violence is not voluntary for the recipient - two very different things. "If it's not impacting the job that they are hired for, does it matter?" A few possibilities: -) your employee runs a little meth lab down the block from a middle school - 'get 'em while they're young', he says. But he never brings his side business on your premises. -) your employee runs a little brothel after hours - 'I like the foreign ones best, they don't know that they can quit any time.' But he never brings his side business on your premises. -) the tenant in your rental beats his wife and kids whenever you go by to check on your property - but he doesn't damage the property and he always pays early. In your world, profit comes ahead of everything? There is no line?
  2. I think you need to improve your command of the English language. Start by working on the definition of 'technician'.
  3. I suppose we have a different definition of technician. Stating that she'd get smoked says nothing about her as a technician. To use the Schultz example again, most people back in the day considered Dave a superior technician, but even Dave would tell you he'd get beat by the best heavyweights in the world.
  4. If 'Hampton State' is Hampton University (always a private school, IIRC), they had a program as well. JB might know more, as that's his home turf. A long (LONG) time ago, I'm pretty sure they had a blind wrestler in the lineup, got a brief mention in the news. I was matside at the ODU tournament (always early Nov), I hear somebody doing a running commentary on a match: "now he stands up, now he's trying to free his hands..." What the heck? I turned and see one teammate narrating to a guy who clearly can't see a thing. Dark glasses, white cane, dressed in singlet, ready when his turn came. I didn't get to watch his match, or how his career went - different conference than us.
  5. I wish. A few years back (2004, I think?), met a guy who was at W&M after me, wrestled for Bill Pincus and Glen Gormley. He kept in touch with people, claims they could find backers to fund the program overnight if they reinstated it. Said the admin won't even acknowledge their existence. It sounds like the athletic dept is fine with what they have now, can't see them adding anything in the near future. They just named a new president, though, have no idea what her priorities are.
  6. I suppose you can see the irony of these two phrases back to back... Although I have to agree with you, calling you a 'misogynist' based on one derogatory comment about one woman is a real stretch (I don't know your posting history). All snarkiness aside, who do you think is a better technician than Helen Maroulis? An honest question; I don't follow the sport at a serious enough level to throw out names, male or female. Back in the day we used to say Dave Schultz (still gets me angry to think of that whole cascade of events); who do people consider in that same light today?
  7. I can't be quite as anti-Notre Dame, growing up Catholic and all that, but even among the faithful, their methods and arrogance rub people the wrong way. That underhanded behavior seems pretty common in higher education, though. I wonder sometimes, in the future I can see people not giving money directly to colleges (or any other causes) at all, particularly the truly wealthy. I'll set up my own endowment, keep control of the principle and send you a check once a year if I'm good with your operations. Seems like a better way to hold people accountable, although tax laws and such might make this impractical.
  8. 54 is pretty ancient - who works your computer thingy for you? It's interesting to see the different cutoffs here, some states as early as Sept 1, others as late as December. In this part of the world, my sister/self/father are Aug/Sep/Oct, each turned 6 in first grade. Older sister/brother are Nov/Dec, each turned 7 in first grade. Even there, that makes them 18 at graduation. I'm surprised at people who say they're never met a 17-year old college freshman, or that 19 and still in h.s. isn't unusual. And to get off track here, a story I tell now and then about a straight-out-of-Dickens factory my brother and I worked in one summer. Very few of the adults completed high school, several ex-cons on the payroll. One (not an ex-con) says, "I'll never forget getting my draft notice. Sophomore year of high school, came home and there it was in the mailbox." Uh, Gary, sophomore year? "Yep, I was 19 years old." We figured his principal gave the draft board a heads-up; I don't think he was on the Ivy League track. The thing is, his Army time gave him the training and skills as a mechanic that served him well once he got out.
  9. Coach, did the school fight you on the restrictions? They always want money no strings attached, but who doesn't? As Notre Dame proved, they have high-priced legal counsel that can find ways around such restrictions. I put this on an earlier thread somewhere, my old school cancelled the program, then said, OK, you have four years to raise $500,000. Within weeks of the fourth installments coming in, they killed the program and said they'd keep the money. Can't prove it, but I always thought they ran a bait-and-switch, cynically figured these caveman wrestlers wouldn't know what hit them. Probably their biggest mistake, they should have let the program have one more season, then claim they used up all the money. As it was, their attitude got ugly when they had to write a lot of refund checks.
  10. "because they won't do anything for our sport." Weird logic. Tapping into a previously ignored participant and fan base can't possibly have any positive effects?
  11. While missing the Olympics means the general public doesn't know Kemp's name, he did not make the world team until he was 21 years old and graduated from college. By the same age, Snyder had three world-level titles to Kemp's one.
  12. 'He is an alcoholic.' Can't tell if this is meant to smear him or just a statement of fact, but obviously this is not by itself a disqualifier. Read about Brad Penrith. Back in the dark ages (early 90's?), AWN had a story about Penrith's long battle. Gable tossed him off the team a few times, finally said we've given him several chances, certainly seemed to close the door on him. Penrith says he probably would have been dead in a few years, when he finally turned it around, only his girlfriend (later wife) and Rico Chiapparelli stood by him. Not surprisingly, Gable was very leery when Penrith approached him yet again, but finally gave him another chance - says a lot about Gable, actually. While Penrith didn't have a lot of success at UNI, by all appearances he's winning the big battle day by day. Having said that, no clue on what the situation is with Pat Smith, and if he never got a degree, it's a nonstarter. If his own brother John can't get him back in at OSU, there is something behind the scenes that keeps him out. Or it's self-imposed - maybe Pat knows enough to stay away from old cronies or such that did him no favors.
  13. Weird answer if serious. Did you see either of these two wrestle? (I didn't). Hodge was just as dominant as Uetake, and I believe still has the highest pinning percentage in history along with never surrendering a takedown - admittedly he only had 46 matches over 3 years. Mind you, I'm just going off of book knowledge here, but trying to squeeze anyone between Hodge and Uetake in a 'greatest' debate seems like trying to shove a sheet of paper underneath a 1000 pound boulder.
  14. A question on this. Is pre-K mandatory in NV? Here in Virginia, the education associated has pushed to make pre-K full day and eventually mandatory, but so far mandatory enrollment starts with kindergarten. I have to agree with you on the RS. Although it's hard to project 12 years into the future for a child that young, a student held back in elementary or middle school always got looked at as 'different', fair or not. Better to do it upfront if you don't think the child is ready to start.
  15. Following on this where the original post said true freshman are supposed to be 18 to start the school year - do any colleges have minimum ages for enrollment? Being very cynical here, I would think they would only care if you've completed high school and your/your parents' tuition checks don't bounce. I've never heard of a college having a minimum age, although they'd have to make allowances for a very young student. I had a friend, her school had one of these genius types, started at her college when he was 12, expected to cure cancer and solve the Mideast problems before he became President... She spoke with him a few times, said he was very - different.
  16. Did you skip a grade somewhere? I'm surprised, too, at the poster that said what college kid is 17? Um, all the September babies (me), and dependent on starting dates, a few from August (my younger sister). Heck, my dad is an October birthday and they let him start first grade at 5 (delayed college entrance, though - started at 44 :-) And if Pat Milkovich hasn't disappeared, how did he finish high school so young - early start or skip a grade?
  17. Three Big Ten programs, two with National Championships to their credit (albeit in the prehistoric era). McCoy really surprised/disappointed me, I thought they would do much better under him. If I remember, I thought they had an AD that seemed serious about backing the program with resources, etc. Any insights as to how they initially got off track? Poor recruiting, poor talent development, off mat issues? I'd like to see a turnaround there - certainly couldn't hurt the sport to have a strong program near the Great Black Hole, i.e., nation's capitol.
  18. Not sure about Steve. About ten years ago, the local paper did a long series about the Martins. Wayne got the dynasty going at GB. Don't know if he was ever a teacher, but definitely worked in administration about the time he handed off to Steve. The series started off, of course, talking about what Billy did at Granby. I had an Army colleague who graduated from Granby in the dad's final year, had Martin as his gym teacher. Martin already had a legendary reputation, this guy said you did not want to be in his doghouse. Billy and the family also built a very successful business (vinyard, I think), and a lot of wrestlers had summer jobs there. I'd bet today that would get a close look to make sure nothing sketchy was going on. One interesting little subtopic, the father's rise to fame and glory came well before Dan Gable's career, and as Gable's dynasty took off, this story said that the two did not care for each other - apparently very different philosophies about wrestling. Then Billy Martin's youngest child made a point of wrestling for Gable - don't know what the old man thought of that.
  19. I don't think there's been a new thread on this topic for at least six months, it's overdue. The adjustment to being away from home, no one standing over you to make you do your homework, resist all the new temptations, it's a big adjustment at whatever age it happens. Better to wait a year or two if you're not ready than to show up, fail out, rack up loans for nothing and have to dig out of a hole. Having said that, it seems more appropriate to look at the age of an athlete rather than their academic year. Somewhere on this board, an old thread listed the guys who won DI titles while still in their teens. That is impressive, given the huge leaps in physical abilities, personal maturity, etc. guys go through in that time frame - some just advance a lot faster. On that theme, if you can handle a football reference, look up Amobi Okoye. He moved to the U.S. from Nigeria at 12 years old, skipped middle school entirely and went right to h.s. Played DI all four years at Louisville (graduated in 3.5 years), first round draft pick at age 19, played all 16 games his rookie year in the NFL as a 20-year old defensive tackle. Given the violent world of an NFL lineman, this is impressive. In fact, I'm tempted to question his birthdate, but the NFL seems to have vetted that and considered his info legit.
  20. Not quite what you're aiming here for , but Hall of Fame citation, David 'Buddy' Arndt: 'became the only wrestler to win National Collegiate championships on both sides of World War II.' Champ in 1940, 1941, 1946. In the gap, flew over 100 combat missions as a P-38 fighter pilot, was awarded the Distinguished Flying Cross with four clusters and six Bronze Battle Stars. I'm guessing he wouldn't consider going for his third title the most pressure he ever felt.
  21. I've lived in Virginia most of my life (grew up, left for awhile, came back), and I also thought we had rules that coaches had to be an employee of the school. Usually a teacher, sometimes an 'assistant principle', but on the school payroll. Your description of the Dresser situation surprises me, but then I've been away from that environment for a few decades now, have no idea what the regs are. Did you hear about the fiasco down in Chesapeake near the end of football season? A guy, senior I think, played for a school that either got knocked out of the playoffs early or didn't make it at all - played in every game to the end. He 'moves' to a new home and suddenly is on the roster at one of the Chesapeake schools, in time for the state semifinals - and he's a DI recruit, IIRC. (Imagine a guy playing for the Yankees, they get knocked out in the first round of the playoffs - and a few weeks later one of their guys is playing for the Astros in World Series). The VHSL let him play because they said the rules didn't explicitly forbid it, but they're looking at closing that loophole. Needless to say, a lot of people were pretty ticked off about it.
  22. He recruits, he coaches, and he makes sure his guys keep up their studies and graduate. And he does them all very well. I'm not a PSU fan, but have tons of respect for what he's built and how he goes about his business. While boards like this are supposed to be informal, sometimes the lame attempts at insults just make the poster look childish. The 'Kael/Carl/Kale' stuff got tired a long, long time ago. Same with people who call a 4 time champ 'Streepler/Stupler/whatever else they come up with'. Wow, aren't you clever, you're only the 1,358th guy who thought up that. Me, I'm not on a first name basis with the PSU coach, so I call him Sanderson. Just a quirk of mine; as a doc, I see lots of colleagues who are very condescending all the time to non-doctors. I make a point of not calling people by first names at work unless it's a two-way street.
  23. You admit that this comment was facetious, but it probably is a blend of both. Most coaches don't just recruit raw talent, they recruit attitude and mindset. They have a 'culture' they want, the guys that buy into his way of doing things have a similar mindset or they find another program. Great to hear Hall handled it that way. Reminds me of the story Gable tells about his crushing loss to Owings. He goes in the locker room and sees his teammate Chuck Jean, who's supposed to be wrestling for his own title in a few minutes, getting changed. He tells Gable, I never went out there after you lost, and I'm not doing it now - he's going to forfeit the national championship match. Gable talks him out of that foolishness, and Jean wins his own title. Sounds like a B.S. fable, but Gable insists it happened that way. Whatever you think of Sanderson and his program hogging all the glory these days, it does look like they're doing great things on and off the mat. A few blemishes that have been beaten to death, but his guys generally stay out of trouble and presumably go on to good lives once the wrestling is done.
  24. Did he just lose interest/never had his heart in coaching to begin with? At his age, he could have kept going a lot longer, presuming ISU or someone else wanted him. Or if he decided to change directions and move on, a good time to do it - he was still a young man and able to get established in another field. So the followup question, what does he do for a living? It sounds like he's not involved in wrestling/athletics, other than the occasional announcing gig.
  25. I hope this isn't a sore subject for anyone, but refresh my memory - why did Gibbons leave Iowa State? He broke the Iowa streak, seemed to have a great future as a coach - then out of nowhere, he's gone and Bobby Douglas has the job. It just seemed very abrupt and I don't remember much said about it at the time. Great athlete, great coach, and great announcer. Glad he's still around the game.
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